Its Time For Hard Decisions

[lou22]

The Carlton Football Club is a laughing stock at the moment and its so sad to see this once great club on its knees. Enough of the B--- S--- and make some tough decisions regarding Lappin, Campo, Whitnall, Fevola. Personally i think get rid of them and trade for draft choices. I feel for lappin because he has been a consistent player and deserves a 2 year contract but no way 3 years.
As for Red is not worth 400 grand.

It will be a young carlton side next year with draft choices.

 

[deluxeman]

IMO heres what should be done:
a) Trade Lappin and Campo for whatever we can get - their really no use to us and we could go for some more draft picks
b) I would have been happy to keep Whitnall on the list for 300k but at 400k we should trade him to the Dees or Bullies and get a first round draft pick + something else
c) Keep Fev. You don't kick 50 goals in a year for a club with the worst midfield if your talentless. Pagan has turned FEv around once, in my opinion he should try one more time.

 

[HBF]

IMO, i believe this is what will happen:

Campo - Will stay. Won't be any interest and deserves to remembered as a one club player. Will end up agreeing to a 2 year deal.

Lappin - Most likely out of all of them to go, and i firmly believe he has played his last game at Carlton. Not sure what we can get for him, but being an AA player, we should get a 2nd round pick at best.

Whitnall - 50/50, but will probably stay. Would have to be a deal we couldn't say not to.

Fevola - Same as Red. However, he may have one last chance. Considering the depth in the draft next year, we may look at trading him in 12 months time. Deserves to be given a go free from groin and hand injuries.

 

[AndSmithMustScore]

If they get rid of Campo i'd be very VERY ********ed off he's been a great player for us and i'd love for him to be a one club player for his career.

Red is alot like Campo and i'd also be sad to see him go because he's the son of a past blue and has always put in 110% for usdepsite all the ridicule he's copped over the years.

Skinny looks a bit stale now and for his own sake might benefit with a change of club.

Fev, im over talking about him now let em do with him what they want.

 

[SurreyBlue]

Why are the hard decisions being "only" axing senior players? This I cannot understand, when we haven't made a profit for 3 years and have just finished with our 2nd spoon. Confusing isn't the word. I was under the impression that a well run team starts from the top down. Have I been reading it wrong for so long. Get the off-field structure right and the on-field will come. Unity and all going in one direction is what is needed.

 

[Snoozer]

If they get rid of Campo i'd be very VERY ********ed off he's been a great player for us and i'd love for him to be a one club player for his career.

The club is bigger than the individual. Yeah he's been very good, but he's passed his best and should be considered as a trade option. He's not the type of player we need. If a suitable trade came along, why wouldn't you trade an outside midfielder (Campo) for an inside ball-winner??

 

[Funkalicous]

Sounds like Melbourne will give us a good deal for Whitnall. Probably something like a 1st and 2nd round pick. IMO, that's a good a deal we'll ever get for Lance.

Lappin will probably be the other player to leave. If he can negotiate a contract with another club, then good on him. However, if he screws us over.....

 

[mojo31]

If they get rid of Campo i'd be very VERY ********ed off he's been a great player for us and i'd love for him to be a one club player for his career.

Red is alot like Campo and i'd also be sad to see him go because he's the son of a past blue and has always put in 110% for usdepsite all the ridicule he's copped over the years.

Skinny looks a bit stale now and for his own sake might benefit with a change of club.

Fev, im over talking about him now let em do with him what they want.

I agree. Another 4 year deal for Campo and make it 600k a season.
4 years for Lance at 500k while we are at it.
Collo to step down and Big Jack to take over.

Lets go and get Beaumont I heard he is available. McKernan to. O'Sullivan to take back his recruiting job with Parkin as advisor.

 

[TheHeatleyStand]

Why are the hard decisions being "only" axing senior players? This I cannot understand, when we haven't made a profit for 3 years and have just finished with our 2nd spoon. Confusing isn't the word. I was under the impression that a well run team starts from the top down. Have I been reading it wrong for so long. Get the off-field structure right and the on-field will come. Unity and all going in one direction is what is needed.

Yes the top of the team down is Kouta Campo Lance in that order..

Yes this time you were not reading it wrong..

Thats right!!!

 

[XXX KINGS]

Why are the hard decisions being "only" axing senior players? This I cannot understand, when we haven't made a profit for 3 years and have just finished with our 2nd spoon. Confusing isn't the word. I was under the impression that a well run team starts from the top down. Have I been reading it wrong for so long. Get the off-field structure right and the on-field will come. Unity and all going in one direction is what is needed.

At the moment our playing list is a pack of monkeys bar a few. They are liabilities with whom we can't go forward with. Out with the old and in with the new. One reason we aren't making money is because we aren't winning matches. Over the next few years there is going to be a huge clean out. But instead of trading for hacks they will hopefully do it properly this year and draft youth.

 

[windows]

Why are the hard decisions being "only" axing senior players? This I cannot understand, when we haven't made a profit for 3 years and have just finished with our 2nd spoon. Confusing isn't the word. I was under the impression that a well run team starts from the top down. Have I been reading it wrong for so long. Get the off-field structure right and the on-field will come. Unity and all going in one direction is what is needed.

Yep. Follow the Collingwood blueprint. Get a powerful team of executives. With contacts. Get Mike Fitzpatrick back to the club before he runs for parliament for Labour. Get the head of the NAB to take over. Get some decent sponsorship. Move heaven and earth to get the best facilities, recruiting managers and assistant coaches. Eddie is one seriously f*&ked up individual, but as far as setting up a footy club goes, he's been nearly perfect. Just don't copy his 'us against the world' seige mentality and you'd have it spot on. Oh, and don't start blaming eddie for their poor onfield performance, their injuries have been ridiculous for the past two years. Just watch next year. Just watch.

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Yep. Follow the Collingwood blueprint. Get a powerful team of executives. With contacts. Get Mike Fitzpatrick back to the club before he runs for parliament for Labour. Get the head of the NAB to take over. Get some decent sponsorship. Move heaven and earth to get the best facilities, recruiting managers and assistant coaches. Eddie is one seriously f*&ked up individual, but as far as setting up a footy club goes, he's been nearly perfect. Just don't copy his 'us against the world' seige mentality and you'd have it spot on. Oh, and don't start blaming eddie for their poor onfield performance, their injuries have been ridiculous for the past two years. Just watch next year. Just watch.

FYI, current Carlton Board,
Ian Collins, President,

Mr Graham Smorgon Carlton Vice-President
Mr Smorgon is a lawyer and Company Director.
He is currently a member of the RMH Neurosciences Foundation and is the Chairman of a number of companies including
GBM Group of companies,
Smorgon Consolidated Investments,
Smorgon Steel Group Ltd.
He is also a Director of the Playbox Theatre.

Hotels - Pokie king Bruce Matheison

John Valmorbida, a director of Mitchelton wines and the newspaper Il Globo.

Art dealer Lauraine Diggins

Simon Wilson, QC,

Businessman Marcus Rose

Ken Hunter, David McKay and Silvagni

Also add a guy called ******** Pratt,
if you are wondering who he is,
look up BRW top 20 earners in Australia.

As i always have said,
and was once told,
"as long as Carlton has the jews and the Liberal Party,
they will never go under."

 

[TheHeatleyStand]

FYI, current Carlton Board,
Ian Collins, President,

Mr Graham Smorgon Carlton Vice-President
Mr Smorgon is a lawyer and Company Director.
He is currently a member of the RMH Neurosciences Foundation and is the Chairman of a number of companies including
GBM Group of companies,
Smorgon Consolidated Investments,
Smorgon Steel Group Ltd.
He is also a Director of the Playbox Theatre.

Hotels - Pokie king Bruce Matheison

John Valmorbida, a director of Mitchelton wines and the newspaper Il Globo.

Art dealer Lauraine Diggins

Simon Wilson, QC,

Businessman Marcus Rose

Ken Hunter, David McKay and Silvagni

Also add a guy called ******** Pratt,
if you are wondering who he is,
look up BRW top 20 earners in Australia.

As i always have said,
and was once told,
"as long as Carlton has the jews and the Liberal Party,
they will never go under."

Pratt isnt a board member.
Valmorbida also owns Sirena tuna Australia and Lavazza Australia

The Jeiwsh element of the club is neither here nor there.. it was always more huff than puff... except for a time when Pratt gave ... ALOT!!.. before his wayward ways made his wife reel him in close....

 

[Stig O'Hara]

Pratt isnt a board member.
Valmorbida also owns Sirena tuna Australia and Lavazza Australia

The Jeiwsh element of the club is neither here nor there.. it was always more huff than puff... except for a time when Pratt gave ... ALOT!!.. before his wayward ways made his wife reel him in close....

Respect,
the jewish element came from Pratt alone, supposedly.

Didn't mean to name him as a board member,
though he is a life member.

Glad you know who he is.

 

[Pivot]

IMO heres what should be done:
a) Trade Lappin and Campo for whatever we can get - their really no use to us and we could go for some more draft picks
b) I would have been happy to keep Whitnall on the list for 300k but at 400k we should trade him to the Dees or Bullies and get a first round draft pick + something else
c) Keep Fev. You don't kick 50 goals in a year for a club with the worst midfield if your talentless. Pagan has turned FEv around once, in my opinion he should try one more time.

I agree with that. There aren't many blokes in the comp that could kick 80+ maybe 100 goals in a season and Fevola definitely could. Remember he hasn't played in a decent side with a decent ruck division and midfield yet.

We can't trade all of Camporeale, Lappin, Whitnall and Fevola. Whitnall should go so to Lappin. Keep Fevola and see what's on offer for Camporeale.

 

[Verbeek 15]

I think you'll find Stephen Silvagni resigned from the board about 18 months ago & Chris Pavlou took his place.

 

[dee_molisher]

FYI, current Carlton Board,
and was once told,
"as long as Carlton has the jews and the Liberal Party,
they will never go under."

The same can be said for Melbourne. Just don't let the jews try to run the club. Imagine if John Howard took over Carlton ha! What a real shocker.

 

[3teams]

My brother reckons they should trade Lance Whitnall for Mitch Morton. At first i was skeptical but in theory it wouldn't be so bad. Mitch Morton a top player and is continuing to show his potential in the A.F.L. Why not go after 1st years than this years draft because this years draft is weak?

 

[Jimthegreat]

Skinny looks a bit stale now and for his own sake might benefit with a change of club.

Lappin's a good players who's had one ordinary year since he's been at Carlton. All Aust once, should have been twice, never gets injured and is very durable. Alot of those guys play great footy beyond 35. Certainly won't be swapping good players like him for a mere second round pick as another post suggested. All Lappin wants is 2 years with a 3rd year performance-based (3 years all up). Given the cuts he's voluntarily taken when the club was under the pump and the fact he's never been paid in the top 6 in the club, give the guy what he wants. Been a great, loyal servant of the club

 

[Jimthegreat]

Why are the hard decisions being "only" axing senior players? This I cannot understand, when we haven't made a profit for 3 years and have just finished with our 2nd spoon. Confusing isn't the word. I was under the impression that a well run team starts from the top down. Have I been reading it wrong for so long. Get the off-field structure right and the on-field will come. Unity and all going in one direction is what is needed.

Spot-on. We went badly this year because the coach lost the players. Wasn't half hard to tell given the total lack of effort and passion in some games. You can be WCE or Sydney and you won't win games if you don't have a crack. We won half our games last year and played brilliantly in the wizzer. You don't win that unless you can play, even if it is a pre-season cup. The record of previous winners shows that. If you go through our list it's actually not bad, except the defence is very pi55 poor. A couple of key defenders are needed to sort that out. You can sack, trade and draft who you like, if the coach can't command respect we are going no-where. Be like moving the deck-chairs on the Titanic. So before you make judgements you have to get to the root of the problem first or you won't solve anything.