News Jack Darling resumes with WCE

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Saw online article indicating SA Police are rolling back their own vax mandate - AFL May end up doing the same.

Darling may be ok - still don’t agree with his approach but ‘rules may change’

Will try and find link.

Edit - vax mandate was rolled back 20 hrs ago not sure effective from details - refer to google for article references.
 
Darling cannot play because he's refused a mandated covid vaccine.

The two issues are directly linked to the current situation. As is Darling's veiw on vaccines versus government and employer mandates.

So how do you not discuss covid and vaccines regarding Darling's situation.

Explain that one to us Batman?
COVID’s not even that serious, he’s in the prime of his life, why does he need the vaccine.

Well have a look at how many people are dying from it.

Well more people die from alcohol so maybe we should ban alcohol.

Etc etc.

Circular bullshit that might at some point have had something to do with Jack Darling but very quickly devolves into nonsense and a reopening of the old Covid discussions.

Leave it at the Jack stuff and it’s all good.
 

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Saw online article indicating SA Police are rolling back their own vax mandate - AFL May end up doing the same.

Darling may be ok - still don’t agree with his approach but ‘rules may change’

Will try and find link.

Edit - vax mandate was rolled back 20 hrs ago not sure effective from details - refer to google for article references.
Effective from 7 March.
 
Saw online article indicating SA Police are rolling back their own vax mandate - AFL May end up doing the same.

Darling may be ok - still don’t agree with his approach but ‘rules may change’

Will try and find link.

Edit - vax mandate was rolled back 20 hrs ago not sure effective from details - refer to google for article references.
Pretty sure SA Police don't have to travel interstate to do their job.

AFL players will be mandated to be vaccinated as long as it remains as a requirement for travel for any state where football is played.
 
COVID’s not even that serious, he’s in the prime of his life, why does he need the vaccine.

Well have a look at how many people are dying from it.

Well more people die from alcohol so maybe we should ban alcohol.

Etc etc.

Circular bullshit that might at some point have had something to do with Jack Darling but very quickly devolves into nonsense and a reopening of the old Covid discussions.

Leave it at the Jack stuff and it’s all good.

You didnt undstand the question and therefore you make no sense.

At all....

Not surprising actually. Geeeeez!
 
You didnt undstand the question and therefore you make no sense.

At all....

Not surprising actually. Geeeeez!
Talking about whether alcohol kills more people than Covid, and whether we should therefore mandate no alcohol etc

Would be one example of how this is just becoming another Covid discussion under the guise of Jack Darling discussion.

Anyway, to each their own, but the Covid thread was a cesspit and is now gone. This thread is much more relevant to the Eagles, so I’d love for it to not turn into another cesspit.
 
Pretty sure SA Police don't have to travel interstate to do their job.

AFL players will be mandated to be vaccinated as long as it remains as a requirement for travel for any state where football is played.

Which would leave you so surprised that the only state now that requires you to be vaccinated to enter a state is good old WA…. Even the nt has removed that requirement
 
Which would leave you so surprised that the only state now that requires you to be vaccinated to enter a state is good old WA…. Even the nt has removed that requirement

you don’t think it makes sense given WA has basically not had any COVID until now and is entering / undergoing a COVID wave?
 
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you don’t think it makes sense given WA has basically not had any COVID until now and is entering / undergoing a COVID wave?

Like most of his rules in apparently the most vaxed state in Australia and one of the most in the world?? No…. He either doesn’t trust the vaccine or he doesn’t trust his health system……. Or perhaps its his health minister…
 
Like most of his rules in apparently the most vaxed state in Australia and one of the most in the world?? No…. He either doesn’t trust the vaccine or he doesn’t trust his health system……. Or perhaps its his health minister…
Oh good, Mr McGowan-Can’t-Do-Anything-Right is here to tell us how McGowan has gotten everything wrong.

Not sure what it’s got to do with Darling, but don’t let that stop you.
 

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Agree he is done. If ours was a results focussed club who made tough decisions he would be cut and we would have mentally dealt and shifted forward already. But we aren't that club so this shit will hang around to distract us at least one more time.

I think they are assembling a committee to set out guidelines for the focus group as we speak
 
Agree he is done. If ours was a results focussed club who made tough decisions he would be cut and we would have mentally dealt and shifted forward already. But we aren't that club so this sh*t will hang around to distract us at least one more time.

I think they are assembling a committee to set out guidelines for the focus group as we speak
Probably trying to make sure our bases are covered legally before we make any moves
 
Agree he is done. If ours was a results focussed club who made tough decisions he would be cut and we would have mentally dealt and shifted forward already. But we aren't that club so this sh*t will hang around to distract us at least one more time.

I think they are assembling a committee to set out guidelines for the focus group as we speak

Let's be honest... given the horror run of injuries, the club can't really afford to jettison an AA forward.

At the moment, I suspect WCE officials would be in talks with the AFL to try and get a feeling for if/when the vaccine mandate might lifted. They'll then be trying to triangulate the likelihood of having Darling available later in the year, versus the benefit of de-registering him and using the cap space to go after a free agent next trade period, versus the possibility of Darling taking legal action, versus the impact on the playing group, versus the impact on fans, versus the views of sponsors, and so on and so on.

To be fair, it's a no-win situation of them.

Hypothetically, lets say the club keeps Darling... the mandate gets lifted later in the year, Darling plays, ends up playing like crap and being 31+ never really recaptures his form. Or even worse, gets injured because he isn't fully match fit. He stays on the list for another 3 years, getting paid but stinking it up. Everyone will wonder whether the club should have taken the hit, delisted him and recouped his salary and gone after a young WA player as part of a rebuild.

Or maybe the club delists him. He gets picked up for chump change by the Purples and he goes on to play 3-4 years more in top form and everyone things West Coast were complete bozos for getting rid of him.
 
Hypothetically, lets say the club keeps Darling... the mandate gets lifted later in the year, Darling plays, ends up playing like crap and being 31+ never really recaptures his form. Or even worse, gets injured because he isn't fully match fit. He stays on the list for another 3 years, getting paid but stinking it up. Everyone will wonder whether the club should have taken the hit, delisted him and recouped his salary and gone after a young WA player as part of a rebuild.

This and that we are in a rebuild is why I'd be in favour of cutting him now. I get the feeling we will peel the bandaid off slowly and have the worst of both worlds.
 
Probably trying to make sure our bases are covered legally before we make any moves

Nah, too logical... it will be a jobs for the boys thing ;)


People may have their opinions about vax vs anti-vax, but commercially - cutting JD instead of paying him $30k p.a. would be the dumbest decision made by the club in years (and that is saying a bit, considering our 'preseason from hell' as certain 'journalists' - quotes required - have put it).

Put him to inactive list, pay him the minimum, bring forward payments to 2022 from some of our larger contracts. If mandates don't change in 2023 then sure, we can look at getting rid of him (if he is stubborn enough not to get vaccinated, but not stubborn enough to retire) - but if he can play in 2023 then surely we want him playing at West Coast?
 
This and that we are in a rebuild is why I'd be in favour of cutting him now. I get the feeling we will peel the bandaid off slowly and have the worst of both worlds.

This assumes there is a player out there that could be poached using Darling's money. So far, no-one has offered any credible suggestions on who that player might be. You'd assume the list manager would have some pretty good ideas, though, if they've been doing their research.
 
Surely the AFL won't lift mandates this year.

Would be spewing if you were Jones or CEY and you could have just plonked yourself on the inactive list for a few months being paid (not very much, but still) to do nothing but keep fit.

You would imagine their respective managers would have made the appropriate inquiries within the AFL. Because you are right, it would look like the mother of all career blunders otherwise.
 
Let's be honest... given the horror run of injuries, the club can't really afford to jettison an AA forward.

At the moment, I suspect WCE officials would be in talks with the AFL to try and get a feeling for if/when the vaccine mandate might lifted. They'll then be trying to triangulate the likelihood of having Darling available later in the year, versus the benefit of de-registering him and using the cap space to go after a free agent next trade period, versus the possibility of Darling taking legal action, versus the impact on the playing group, versus the impact on fans, versus the views of sponsors, and so on and so on.

To be fair, it's a no-win situation of them.

Hypothetically, lets say the club keeps Darling... the mandate gets lifted later in the year, Darling plays, ends up playing like crap and being 31+ never really recaptures his form. Or even worse, gets injured because he isn't fully match fit. He stays on the list for another 3 years, getting paid but stinking it up. Everyone will wonder whether the club should have taken the hit, delisted him and recouped his salary and gone after a young WA player as part of a rebuild.

Or maybe the club delists him. He gets picked up for chump change by the Purples and he goes on to play 3-4 years more in top form and everyone things West Coast were complete bozos for getting rid of him.

So we keep him and he is sh!t, or we delist him and he is an AA forward?

There is a middle ground there (or even if the other extremes line up - delist and no good, or keep and a superstar).

Just like COVID is relatively new, so are vaccine mandates. They may or may not change, but for 1 year and $30k (and it doesn't cost us a list spot) it would be foolish to delist him just to make an example.
 
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