Traded Jack Steven [traded to Geelong for #58]

[kaiserchief13]

i think it will be pick 37 or cats just walk, cant see them pushing too hard for him

Why not 24?

 

[Lore]

Jack Steven [UFA in 2020] <- you are here

 

[Kingsfoil]

Why not 24?

Not worth it for the risk.

 

[g_TRAIN]

If I'm reading it right Saints want a pick in the 20s and Geelong is only prepared to offer mid 30s..

Personally I'm happy with 30s pick but get why the club would aim higher

 

[Purrfect pussy]

i think it will be pick 37 or cats just walk, cant see them pushing too hard for him

And saints pay half the contract. 800k for a bloke that’s struggling on and off the field is ridiculous money.

 

[kaiserchief13]

If I'm reading it right Saints want a pick in the 20s and Geelong is only prepared to offer mid 30s..

Personally I'm happy with 30s pick but get why the club would aim higher

Geelong should trade 24 for high 20s/early 30s pick then get a 2nd rd pick upgrade next year. Then on trade that pick to St Kilda

 

[Kingsfoil]

Geelong should trade 24 for high 20s/early 30s pick then get a 2nd rd pick upgrade next year. Then on trade that pick to St Kilda

Or better, just take 24 to the draft or bundle it with another to move higher in the draft, and take Steven as UFA next year.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

For free you say? Like how TK is going to West Coast for free?

Geelong fans do make me laugh.

You do understand how UFA works?? There is no matching and forcing to trade. They walk. So yes you get nothing from us and just AFL comp

 

[geelong_crazy26]

i think it will be pick 37 or cats just walk, cant see them pushing too hard for him

Pick 37 for Steven is very fair. Surely saints fans are more than happy to take that given his speculative future

 

[Kingsfoil]

You do understand how UFA works?? There is no matching and forcing to trade. They walk. So yes you get nothing from us and just AFL comp

I am constantly amazed at how few people on BF seem to understand how trading and FA work.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

I am constantly amazed at how few people on BF seem to understand how trading and FA work.

I don’t get why such a fuss over Steven from st kilda. He has serious mental health issues is severely underdone and overweight to the point he isn’t even AFL standard anymore.. a lot of risk.

Why st kilda is making such a fuss just is confusing. He hasn’t even been AA once either. So he is a level below the best tier.

If we are offering pick 37 it’s more than fair from us.

 

[BigCat1]

With yet another Mid level player asking for a trade to the saints they need the cap space and the picks I’m sure. I wouldn’t be budging one bit.

 

[Stan_Darsh72]

With yet another Mid level player asking for a trade to the saints they need the cap space and the picks I’m sure. I wouldn’t be budging one bit.

You are aware that St Kilda does not need cap space we front end contracts just to get to the 95% floor.

 

[BennyGan]

Why not 24?

Cause I don’t think they are that keen, he apparently contacted them. I think they’d take him but isn’t the end of the world if they don’t get him.

 

[STPer18]

Saints are going to need something to get all of Hill, Howard, Jones and Ryder you'd imagine. We've already got our big trade out of the way so they'll come knocking again when push comes to shove.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

You are aware that St Kilda does not need cap space we front end contracts just to get to the 95% floor.

Probably equally fair to say you've likely front ended Jack's contract too and there wouldn't be much to pay out. I'm just guessing but I think maybe the lower coin offered by the cats might just be matching his remaining contract. Ironically similar to the Brad Hill contract

 

[Seeds]

Let's just call him Stevo, to get rid of all the 'STEVENS' people.

But the stevens were also called stevo.

 

[Joffaboy]

With yet another Mid level player asking for a trade to the saints they need the cap space and the picks I’m sure. I wouldn’t be budging one bit.

Dont need the cap space

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Do it and move on

You need the picks for other trades.37 will get it done eventually we're not offering more.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Dont need the cap space

You do need the picks though you have like 6 players wanting in and no picks before 59 (6 will go on Hill).

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Seems to me, 2020 could well be Geelong's final tilt at a flag for a while. This year at various times Geelong still relied heavily on Selwood, Hawkins and Ablett to get them over the line. At least two, if not all three, will retire at the end of next year.

Stevens at least partially covers the loss of Kelly in the short term.

I feel like St Kilda hold some pretty decent cards here.

No because Steven is not the only player we can trade for. Once the price is too high to be value we trade for soneone who is better value.

 

[Longmembrey]

So from what I understand Geelong is walking away from this trade, the Saints want more than Geelong can afford. I personally think it's best for all parties involved except for maybe Jack himself but he has the option to retire or play another year for the Saints and then doing what he likes.

Saints fans would you be happy if you retained Steven?

Would absolutely be happy to keep him!

 

[Ross]

If the Hill trade falls apart then what about 6 and Steven for 14 and 17 or Geelong's two 2020 R1s? First deal would give the Saints two picks to trade down and get Jones and Howard and a couple of mid-20s picks, the latter would give them three R1s next year to target Ben King (and/or maybe Hill again).

 

[BigCat1]

Would absolutely be happy to keep him!
For another 15 games before he exercises his free agent status and we miss out on ZJones or Dougall bc we didn’t have a pick before 60

Fixed that up for you

 

[Warhorse]

Trade doesn't happy. St Kilda get another year of service and we get him for free. Win win