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Jacob's Request Trade
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Stazza#5
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Sounds like Carlton want pick 14 and Adelaide want to give pick 33, so its a stand-off. Adelaide will definitely not give 14, possibly will swap 14 for 18 but it will be pick 33 most likely. Otherwise he goes to PSD and Adelaide will get him for nothing, earlier clubs won't take him, due to the fact he wants to come back to S.A only and Port have PSD pick after Adelaide. Has said that he won't be re-signing with Carlton, so he'll be lost to Carlton one way or another. probably won't be resolved until the last minute. I'm stating the most likely scenario, not trying to point score like a lot of the Adelaide and Carlton posters here.
Tanks_Alot
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Jacobs has said that he wants Carlton to get a fair deal and if not then he would probably stay. He's not the type of bloke to shaft the club that gave him a lot of chances to prove himself.
So I'm a little confused, is there an actual quote in any article where Jacobs says he won't re-sign with Carlton or are you just going by what Rendell (or whoever it was) said?
Blue and Silver
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Seriously I tried correcting them, I tried pointing out all the flaws, I tried proposing fair options and all that happens is they **** in their hands and thrown it at you. Trade week aint for me
Stazza#5
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I'm pretty sure it was said by Jacob's manager (Rotoro??) and then repeated by Adelaide's ops. manager (Harper). I still think the Crows are genuine with their 2nd round pick (33) for him. I reckon carlton should grab it, because they might end up with nothing otherwise.
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I would rather take a gamble on not accepting pick 33 and try to convince him to sign for another year...
So our situation is either
Accept pick 33 and guarantee of being bent over
Not accept pick 33 and take a gamble on try to no get bent over
I love how Adelaide supporters are taking their media pleading manager's words as gospel...
There is a bigger chance of Jacobs signing for another year than going into PSD...
What makes this trade tough is that the commodities available, and those wanted in return just don't line up.
Jacobs value obviously just falls between 14 and 33 so i can see why both teams are stuck headbutting each other. If Adelaide had a pick, say 20-24, then i could have seen this deal sliding through without too much worry. They obviously had their heart set on nabbing Tambling so that just makes this a little more difficult.
Only way i can see this happening is if one team crumbles, or there is another trade which nabs other draft picks. Outside option is something involving a swap of both our first rounders.
Jacobs value obviously just falls between 14 and 33 so i can see why both teams are stuck headbutting each other. If Adelaide had a pick, say 20-24, then i could have seen this deal sliding through without too much worry. They obviously had their heart set on nabbing Tambling so that just makes this a little more difficult.
Only way i can see this happening is if one team crumbles, or there is another trade which nabs other draft picks. Outside option is something involving a swap of both our first rounders.
Is there a possibility that McKernan could even out the trade?
Carlton: McKernan and pick 33
Adelaide: Jacobs and pick 50
Or is that again out of the question?
Adelaide have so many untouchable talls but where are the going to play them and fit them all in the one team?
Carlton: McKernan and pick 33
Adelaide: Jacobs and pick 50
Or is that again out of the question?
Adelaide have so many untouchable talls but where are the going to play them and fit them all in the one team?
40yearBLUE
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I wonder what Sauce thinks, I know he wants to go home, but if a deal cant be done and the PSD or ND or staying are the only options I reckon he would stay. The question is are we better off having him stay or taking a lesser deal, cos I dont think Sauce will go into the draft, it is a deal or he stays.
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Sauce strikes me as the sort of bloke who wouldn't like seeing us screwed. Am I living in fantasy-land?
40yearBLUE
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I dont think so, he was rookie listed, which means clubs overlooked him and we gave him a shot as a rookie. We gave him time to develop, he was a rookie for 3 seasons, we could well have delisted him before he made his mark, so his value and career are very much owed to the club and he seems like the sort of bloke that sees that and would wish us well.
People think we dont have hand here but GC is out now, so that leaves a deal or the draft or stay. There are a number of clubs ahead of Adel that he would be sh#t scared of ending up at, as much as he has progressed the Tigers could undo in one contract!!!
Yes,
If you were working interstate and another company offered to nearly double your wage and move you back home to be with your family and friends would you take it? And would you be annoyed with your current employer if they stood in your way?
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Would we be happy with a straight swap of Jacobs for either Talia or Mckernan??
We get a potential chb they get there ruckman I think that would be fair if we cant get 14 which we would most likely use for a potential chb anyway...
We get a potential chb they get there ruckman I think that would be fair if we cant get 14 which we would most likely use for a potential chb anyway...
40yearBLUE
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You forget one very big elephant in the room, its called the draft and there are a number of clubs ahead of Adel, so he is smart enough to know that if Adel dont deal he dont go, which to me means he will stay, he wont go into the draft, he does not have the currency to put a price on his head that other clubs wont take. I think you are living in fantasy land.
No one is going to screw anyone. A deal will get done and it won't be a straight swap for either 14 or 33. Everyone wants this deal to go through; Adelaide, Carlton, and Jacobs. It is just a matter of sorting out exactly what the deal will look like.
I personally would take this (prefer Talia) if things get tight, which they appear to be doing. Sauce has shown more than either of those two for obvious reasons but I'm not sure I would want to test the PSD and possibly end up with jack.
There are a number of clubs before the Crows but Historically (bar Stevens) I can't recall too many clubs drafting a player who has nominated a prefered club. (the 'why would we want someone who doesn't want to play with us' line comes to mind)
Stazza#5
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Don't think he'll be picked up by WC (don't need more rucks), Bris (already salary cap probs), or Rich/Melb/Essendon as they've already got developing ruckmen, Melb might also pick up Hale. Also they probably all wont be involved in the PSD anyway. Blokes who go in the PSD for the go home factor (ie moving from state to state, nearly always get there unimpeded), either traded or by PSD.
40yearBLUE
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What are you smoking over there? Richmond had Simmonds as first ruck this season and he is finished, so there is the first club to take him and just a hint of ending up at the tigers would put the fear of god into him. Essendon have delisted Laycock and Hille is out injured as much as he is in, leaving just Bellechamber and Ryder, and they prefer Ryder as a key forward, leaving just Bellechamber, I dont think so then there is WC, they have Nic Nat in development and an aging Cox so they would be interested in a low cost ready made ruck, and Hale will go to the Hawks meaning Melb have shown an interest in a ruck that they did not get, if one was there in the PSD they would also grab him. Brisbane have Clarke wanting to leave, if not this year next year so again if a good ruck in the PSD presented they would grab him but you are correct that salary cap may restrict them.
Think again mate.
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Richmond/Melbourne/Essendon have developing rucks?
Rucks that are years off and/or are spuds.
Gawn, Browne, Vickery, Bellchambers...they're ages off being ready....
They'd snap him up in an instant.
If it comes down to that...just do a deal with Port for pick 34. Jacobs gets to SA...pick 33 or 34, no real difference...
Don't think Richmond would be interested. They are rebuilding a young team, they have Angus Graham as a good solid #1 ruckman and Browne is coming along OK. Vickery would be the 3rd option and should be putting on some bulk by now. Realistically they are not going to care if it takes a couple of more years for them to develop as they have bigger holes to plug in defense than the ruck.
Which key defender of the equivilant quality of Jacobs will be available in the PSD? 
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Melbourne must be itching after missing Hale. Young team, no superstars (yet), will have cap space.
.Melbourne must be itching after missing Hale. Young team, no superstars (yet), will have cap space.
Nick Stevens wanted Collingwood and we got him.
Jacobs won't go into the PSD if a fair deal can't be reached.
Jacobs won't go into the PSD if a fair deal can't be reached.
Which key defender of the equivilant quality of Jacobs will be available in the PSD?
Melbourne must be itching after missing Hale. Young team, no superstars (yet), will have cap space.
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