Oppo Camp James Aish, (Traded to Freo 2019)

[TradeDraft]

Like I said I like and respect Aish. But seriously I hope it is the start of our club turning over players with in my humble opinion not crying out keep me. I cod name another 1/2 dozen

Then going to be Massive Turn Over in the 2020 Trade Period Then

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Aish, 69 and a future 3rd for a future 2nd and future 4th.

That’s effectively a second round pick. Fair trade

 

[TradeDraft]

He seems sad but basically what happened I think is Collingwood said we don't have big plans for you so if you want to find a better opportunity, we will help you, and thats what he decided to do...

Does sound he wanted to Stay but Club had lost Faith in Him of Being a Long Future at Collingwood.

Longmiure Rates him and with Hill Leaving they had Cap Space to Fit him in and he has a Future for Aish

 

[JezzasOnTheAsphalt]

Decent result to get a second rounder out of this at least.


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[sirlothie]

In the end we traded him for very, very little.

We gave him up to upgrade a 3rd round pick to a 2nd round pick, that's it.

 

[swoop42]

As good a deal we could have expected in the circumstances.

The future second alongside our own should cover our academy player should he prove worthy of a 1st round bid and allow us to use that 1st round in next years trade period.

We could potentially look to trade it for say Gold Coasts pick 15 this year if someone we really liked was still available.

 

[TradeDraft]

In the end we traded him for very, very little.

We gave him up to upgrade a 3rd round pick to a 2nd round pick, that's it.

We where more Sellers This Year then Buyers

 

[sirlothie]

We where more Sellers This Year then Buyers

Just shows it was all about the money because we gave him up for probably a 10 pick improvement in the 2020 draft which isn't much.

The 2 4th rounders swapped cancel each other out.

 

[TradeDraft]

In the end we traded him for very, very little.

We gave him up to upgrade a 3rd round pick to a 2nd round pick, that's it.

Shows it was pretty much a Salary Dump

 

[TradeDraft]

Just shows it was all about the money because we gave him up for probably a 10 pick improvement in the 2020 draft which isn't much.

The 2 4th rounders swapped cancel each other out.

Well the Beams trade been a Disaster looking back a Year Later

 

[whiskeytown]

Aish + pick 69 + future pick likely in the 50s

Sold for a future pick likely in the 25-35 range and a future pick likely in the 60s

Good deal for a player that is serviceable but readily replaceable

Good luck to James at his new club. Will always remember the courage he showed vs the Hawks in 2017 when he broke his cheekbone. And for showing feminists where'd they be without chivalry

 

[si tacuisses]

Well the Beams trade been a Disaster looking back a Year Later

Yep. Should never have brought him back.

 

[OniAu]

Well the Beams trade been a Disaster looking back a Year Later

Agree entirely. Dumb trade without looking forward. We always knew we had De Goey , Grundy and Moores contracts coming up. Club should have held firm last year and not went for Beams. Could have had another couple of project youngsters on lesser wage

 

[Horaceg]

Sad to see you go Aish, I don’t think purple is a good colour for you.

Good luck, don’t play well against us or don’t play at all. Have fun in Perf

 

[Saintly Viewed]

He seems sad but basically what happened I think is Collingwood said we don't have big plans for you so if you want to find a better opportunity, we will help you, and thats what he decided to do...

Yes that’s what it was.

Good treatment to assist him.

No axes to grind by club and or him.

 

[TradeDraft]

Guess Trading the 2 2nd Rounders for him was Way Overs it turned out then

 

[didaksrightfoot]

Im just hoping thats a freo 2nd and not the GWS 2nd

Sounded what he was Saying he was Kind of Forced out

Dave - try and listen to Aish talking and not the media guys. Commentators always try to make drama out of every situation, because its gets clicks and shares, and they try to trap players into adding to that drama - Aish did not do that.

What Aish said was this:
He and the Club had been negotiating for the last 6 months about extending his contract. (They obviously had not come to an agreement).
In the last 5 days, the Club had conversations with a few players about what their contract position would look like next year.
(I am taking a guess, but I reckon the conversation was something like this: We have some big priorities to re-sign next season, you aren't one of those guys. All we can garauntee you is X number of dollars (say $400k, down from his current $600k - possibly). If you don't want to agree - feel free to explore other clubs. Or wait 12 months and see what happens with other contracts)
Aish and his manager explored other clubs - and Freo came knocking with a contract he wanted.
Both clubs agreed to the trade. Done.
(The other players who were "talked to", either decided against exploring options, or didn't get offers they wanted... so will stay on our list for the next 12 months, at least)

Thats the business. At the end of the day - best outcome for all 3 parties.

 

[TradeDraft]

Dave - try and listen to Aish talking and not the media guys. Commentators always try to make drama out of every situation, because its gets clicks and shares, and they try to trap players into adding to that drama - Aish did not do that.

What Aish said was this:
He and the Club had been negotiating for the last 6 months about extending his contract. (They obviously had not come to an agreement).
In the last 5 days, the Club had conversations with a few players about what their contract position would look like next year.
(I am taking a guess, but I reckon the conversation was something like this: We have some big priorities to re-sign next season, you aren't one of those guys. All we can garauntee you is X number of dollars (say $400k, down from his current $600k - possibly). If you don't want to agree - feel free to explore other clubs. Or wait 12 months and see what happens with other contracts)
Aish and his manager explored other clubs - and Freo came knocking with a contract he wanted.
Both clubs agreed to the trade. Done.

Thats the business. At the end of the day - best outcome for all 3 parties.

You are Probably Right but I am big fan of his just makes it bit harder to Swallow the Club did not see what I saw in him

 

[hellfire]

Thanks for the service, Aishy - you had some ripper moments and were hampered by injury every time you built some momentum. Here’s to a long and prosperous career in the west.

 

[PonsfordMagpie]

I wish him well and thank him for his contribution over the last four seasons.

It's evident that our salary cap issues made him the sacrificial lamb.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

I am Super Sad that Aish was Forced by Poor List Mangemt.

But also Glad it's over so I can move on though I be still Following his Career atFreo

Looks like great list management to me.

Planning ahead and forcing out expendable players for whom we have depth.

EDIT: Nonwithstanding the Beams deal looks bloody stupid now.

 

[loki04]

Aish, 69 and a future 3rd for a future 2nd and future 4th.

Attached to Saints finish position isn't it?

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Well the Beams trade been a Disaster looking back a Year Later

Probably the wrong time but Beams in 9 games averaged 25 possessions so that’s not a disaster.
(Caveat: it could be better still but it’s not a disaster more a disappointing petering out of his season.)

The Beams tale will be better judged in a few years.

By contrast Aish played 14 games this year, 5 more games, averaged about 15 possessions.
Different players, different positions but Beams is a whole different level of talent.

Our club should never be afraid of bringing in better players of which Beams is one.

Risks can be taken on grade A talent, and better to pass on medium talent that’s getting long in the tooth like Jenkins as an example.

It’s a shame for Aish but at least he gets an opportunity to continue his career and likely play game on game.
That’s to his benefit.

 

[jerms]

Attached to Saints finish position isn't it?

Yep, so is the future 4th. Enjoy deathriding St Kilda next year.

 

[sirlothie]

Guess Trading the 2 2nd Rounders for him was Way Overs it turned out then

At least we did not pay pick 7.