Traded Jared Polec [traded to North Melbourne with Pittard and #48 for #11 and 2019 fourth round pick]

[mezaire]

Of course they would get a game for us. I said they were B graders, not completely useless.

Given that you don’t know the results of the Brownlow, you’re not in a position to make that call. Coaches rated him below Dusty though, which is pretty funny.

Watch the 3rd quarter again. When the game needed to be won you'll see who steps up and who crumbles

 

[Thewlis Dish]

lol at people thinking Dusty didn't get that extra money from other means.

Yeah, he waited until the very last second to re-sign and left $2m on the table in doing so out of pure love for the club

 

[Better Loosen Up]

Oh, would there?

I think that would be the case...

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

This Dusty stuff has been done to death. He's at Richmond, he's staying at Richmond for the rest of his AFL career, time to move on like the bulk of us have 12 months ago.

I'm quite excited at the potential prospect of Hall, Polec, Gaff, Thomas and Scott coming to North, they would add so much to our HFF and midfield depth.

 

[King_Tredrea]

Hold on to your hat, not stating I agree with it, but there have been rumblings that North will keep the 1st round pick.

Both clubs will posture as best they can. I would much prefer we let him walk to the draft then accept anything less than pick 10. Obviously it won’t come to this.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Both clubs will posture as best they can. I would much prefer we let him walk to the draft then accept anything less than pick 10. Obviously it won’t come to this.

I would suggest we may try to package up our second (either this year or next's, probably next year's tbh, due to the need for as many points as possible this year for academy and F/S picks), plus Pruess.

Unfortunately for you guys, you've lost a bit of leverage with Hartlett, Koch and even Hinkley speaking rather negatively of Jared in the past fortnight or so. Adding to the contract situation, North are in a much strong negotiating position.

 

[Adz2332]

Hold on to your hat, not stating I agree with it, but there have been rumblings that North will keep the 1st round pick.

so your offer will be? some magic beans?

Id be shocked if port let him walk for less than this years first.

 

[Adz2332]

so next years second and Pruess.... pass

 

[Grizza]

lol at people thinking Dusty didn't get that extra money from other means.

Yeah, he waited until the very last second to re-sign and left $2m on the table in doing so out of pure love for the club

If you don’t think Carr would’ve orchestrated a similar deal for the most marketable player in the league had he switched to North then you’ve got no idea. It’s a commission based industry. There’s a reason why 60 odd players contacted Carr for his services after the Dusty deal. He controlled the whole situation and took advantage of it. A lot of people, mainly North supporters, still remain completely fooled by it all.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

If you don’t think Carr would’ve orchestrated a similar deal for the most marketable player in the league had he switched to North then you’ve got no idea. It’s a commission based industry. There’s a reason why 60 odd players contacted Carr for his services after the Dusty deal. He controlled the whole situation and took advantage of it. A lot of people, mainly North supporters, still remain completely fooled by it all.

I don't disagree, I just laugh at this notion he somehow left millions on the table to re-sign with the Tiges.

 

[boncer34]

so next years second and Pruess.... pass

Bizzare trade suggestion.

Port dont need a ruckman.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Bizzare trade suggestion.

Port dont need a ruckman.

So why are they are chasing Lycett?

 

[rainwizard39]

So why are they are chasing Lycett?

Why would we need Preuss if we got Lycett?

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Why would we need Preuss if we got Lycett?

What if you don't get Lycett?

Granted that Pruess is a backup option, but that means he'll come cheaper and he's only meant to be a back up to Ryder, who'll play more than half the year based on his age and injury history.

Anyway, this is all a hypothetical and that Polec will most likely come to North with next year's first and most likely end up with Pruess going to the Blues or something random like that.

I'm not trying to denigrate Polec's worth in any way, he's worth pick 10-12, but looking at Hartlett, Koch and Hinkley publicly talking negative about Polec, they haven't helped your negotiating position with Jared being out of contract also.

 

[Adz2332]

What if you don't get Lycett?

Granted that Pruess is a backup option, but that means he'll come cheaper and he's only meant to be a back up to Ryder, who'll play more than half the year based on his age and injury history.

Anyway, this is all a hypothetical and that Polec will most likely come to North with next year's first and most likely end up with Pruess going to the Blues or something random like that.

I'm trying to denigrate Polec's worth in any way, he's worth pick 10-12, but looking at Hartlett, Koch and Hinkley publicly talking negative about Polec, they haven't helped your negotiating position with Jared being out of contract also.

cant see why or how port accepts anything less than this years first. We have no reason to.
Hes not desperate to go to North for North. He knows he wouldnt get past carlton or bris or saints etc in the draft.
Kangas lowballing would help us and might get him to stay and sign on instead of hitting the draft instead

 

[boncer34]

So why are they are chasing Lycett?

Kinda my point.

Front runners with him means they don't need one.

Its a bizarre trade to throw up, how about addressing a need they haven't already identified and found a better option for?

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

cant see why or how port accepts anything less than this years first. We have no reason to.
Hes not desperate to go to North for North. He knows he wouldnt get past carlton or bris or saints etc in the draft.
Kangas lowballing would help us and might get him to stay and sign on instead of hitting the draft instead

You're underestimating how much we can front-load a contract and blow any competition out of the water via the PSD.

Low-balling would only really affect Port tbh, once he's said he's committed, he's committed.

 

[boncer34]

You're underestimating how much we can front-load a contract and blow any competition out of the water.

Low-balling would only really affect Port tbh, once he's said he's committed, he's committed.

Explain to me how this works?

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Kinda my point.

Front runners with him means they don't need one.

Its a bizarre trade to throw up, how about addressing a need they haven't already identified and found a better option for?

It's not quite a bizarre trade, front-runners doesn't mean anything when it comes to trades. Lycett could very well stay, as could Gaff. My original scenario was one in which Lycett isn't going to Port. As if I'll advocate that trade if Lycett was actually going to Port.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Explain to me how this works?

Depends if he nominates for the PSD basically:

The main reason for players not nominating in the national draft is that those who nominate for the pre-season draft may set the terms for their contracts; in contrast, all players selected in the national draft are not able to set a minimum acceptable contract period or salary.

 

[boncer34]

It's not a bizarre trade, front-runners doesn't mean anything when it comes to trades. Lycett could very well stay, as could Gaff. My original scenario was one in which Lycett isn't going to Port. As if I'll advocate that trade if Lycett was actually going to Port.

As an offer to Port as it stands in my opinion its bizarre. I think you'll get Polec but I don't think you'll do it by offering up a solution to a problem they're likely to solve themselves.

Depends if he nominates for the PSD basically:

The main reason for players not nominating in the national draft is that those who nominate for the pre-season draft may set the terms for their contracts; in contrast, all players selected in the national draft are not able to set a minimum acceptable contract period or salary.

Don't clubs just have to match the years and dollars. Ie. if you offer $3m over 3 at $2m, $500k and $500k than a club who goes $1m x 3 is acceptable. I'm almost positive that's how it works for Free Agency so I'd be surprised if the PSD was different?

 

[King_Tredrea]

Even if he commits to the Roos deal, I don’t think that means we will just take what we’re given. If it isn’t a satisfactory deal Polec will just be staying put. There’s no bad blood or bad break up between Polec and the club.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

As an offer to Port as it stands in my opinion its bizarre. I think you'll get Polec but I don't think you'll do it by offering up a solution to a problem they're likely to solve themselves.



Don't clubs just have to match the years and dollars. Ie. if you offer $3m over 3 at $2m, $500k and $500k than a club who goes $1m x 3 is acceptable. I'm almost positive that's how it works for Free Agency so I'd be surprised if the PSD was different?

I'm pretty sure, I've never seen it in practise, so people more much able than me in the drafting world would know. I've only got a rudimentary understanding of it all.

I'll grant a tad bizarre, but it's in the unlikely situation that Lycett doesn't go to Port and even then, it may be a little bit of a stretch, but trade hypothetical are always fun.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

I think players who have completed a certain number of seasons can set their contractual terms via the ND now too?

 

[The Filth Wizard]

It's kind of funny to me that some Port (and other teams supporters) deride North for offering Polec way more than he is worth to get him across but then others think three other clubs will be sitting there waiting with a million dollars set aside to snap him up in the PSD despite being nowhere to be seen now when negotiations could take place now. Maybe not funny, some mirth though.