Traded Jared Polec [traded to North Melbourne with Pittard and #48 for #11 and 2019 fourth round pick]

[Jugada]

Even if he commits to the Roos deal, I don’t think that means we will just take what we’re given. If it isn’t a satisfactory deal Polec will just be staying put. There’s no bad blood or bad break up between Polec and the club.

Lol no. Staying put is the third of 2 options on the table for Polec

 

[Adz2332]

It's kind of funny to me that some Port (and other teams supporters) deride North for offering Polec way more than he is worth to get him across but then others think three other clubs will be sitting there waiting with a million dollars set aside to snap him up in the PSD despite being nowhere to be seen now when negotiations could take place now. Maybe not funny, some mirth though.

i think teams would take him like they would a free agent if all they had to give up was the money and not the draft picks.
if he was after some cash and was a free agent, im sure carlton, saints etc would have a swing at him

 

[King_Tredrea]

Lol no. Staying put is the third of 2 options on the table for Polec

Might seem unrealistic but it’s still more realistic than North not offering their first pick to facilitate the trade. There’s no reason to think this trade happens if they don’t.

 

[Thewlis Dish]

Might seem unrealistic but it’s still more realistic than North not offering their first pick to facilitate the trade. There’s no reason to think this trade happens if they don’t.

I expect we'll spend a lot of trade period trying to find a pick in the teens to give you.

 

[Jugada]

Might seem unrealistic but it’s still more realistic than North not offering their first pick to facilitate the trade. There’s no reason to think this trade happens if they don’t.

So you're going to cut off your nose to spite your face? Unless they came in and completely low balled offering a third rounder or something you will need to just accept it really. Letting players walk has got you no where in the past. There is 0% chance that Polec stays. The club has pretty much told him they aren't fussed if he is there in the media and he will get the contract he wants by walking to the draft anyway.

Sucks to be you guys but you have no leverage in this trade at all

 

[The Filth Wizard]

i think teams would take him like they would a free agent if all they had to give up was the money and not the draft picks.
if he was after some cash and was a free agent, im sure carlton, saints etc would have a swing at him

Perhaps but those are all teams in the midst of big rebuilds. If I were a list manager the last thing I'd want to do in that instance is throw a decent part of my remaining cap to a bloke that doesn't want to be there. Good chance the Blues have got their targets in mind (McGovern), the Saints have some targets but would also be mindful of next seasons FA's and the Suns surely wouldn't consider bringing a guy to QLD that famously wanted out of QLD. I get that it can be a threat, I just don't think it is a threat. Nick Stevens was 15 years ago, since then players generally get where they want to go.

 

[BRAB]

Perhaps but those are all teams in the midst of big rebuilds. If I were a list manager the last thing I'd want to do in that instance is throw a decent part of my remaining cap to a bloke that doesn't want to be there. Good chance the Blues have got their targets in mind (McGovern), the Saints have some targets but would also be mindful of next seasons FA's and the Suns surely wouldn't consider bringing a guy to QLD that famously wanted out of QLD. I get that it can be a threat, I just don't think it is a threat. Nick Stevens was 15 years ago, since then players generally get where they want to go.

I've been informed by a source close to the issue that the lions would absolutely take polec in the PSD if they got the chance.

 

[buttox]

polec is worth pick 15-20 imo.
if port dont want preuss i suspect we will package him with our second for a pick in that range from another club to on trade to port.
pick 10 is too valuable now.
the trade will get done i bet north and port are already discussing it.

 

[boncer34]

I'm pretty sure, I've never seen it in practise, so people more much able than me in the drafting world would know. I've only got a rudimentary understanding of it all.

I'll grant a tad bizarre, but it's in the unlikely situation that Lycett doesn't go to Port and even then, it may be a little bit of a stretch, but trade hypothetical are always fun.

I feel like the AFL has warned clubs over the $3m over 2 but once signed renegotiate loophole as well.

I fully expect Polec to get to North FWIW.

 

[DesertRoo]

I've been informed by a source close to the issue that the lions would absolutely take polec in the PSD if they got the chance.

Hahaha, that would be brilliant, full circle... what’s the bet rocky and crazy vossy try and follow him back to brissie.

 

[rainwizard39]

polec is worth pick 15-20 imo.
if port dont want preuss i suspect we will package him with our second for a pick in that range from another club to on trade to port.
pick 10 is too valuable now.
the trade will get done i bet north and port are already discussing it.

That's the thing you said it yourself it's your opinion. As if he's worth pick 20 wtf are you on?

How do we keep going back to this. *One week "sure he's worth our first" *next week "oh we'll take him in the psd if you don't take our 2nd". Gtfo this isn't some sought of bs where teams try and screw each other over.

 

[BRAB]

Hahaha, that would be brilliant, full circle... what’s the bet rocky and crazy vossy try and follow him back.

"Do it for the lols" is a legitimate list management strategy.

 

[GUMBLETRON]

Depends if he nominates for the PSD basically:

The main reason for players not nominating in the national draft is that those who nominate for the pre-season draft may set the terms for their contracts; in contrast, all players selected in the national draft are not able to set a minimum acceptable contract period or salary.

Has the rule changed? Luke Ball did it in the ND, without any re-negotiation - he just told Collingwood he'd tack a cheap third year on.

 

[buttox]

That's the thing you said it yourself it's your opinion. As if he's worth pick 20 wtf are you on?

How do we keep going back to this. *One week "sure he's worth our first" *next week "oh we'll take him in the psd if you don't take our 2nd". Gtfo this isn't some sought of bs where teams try and screw each other over.

im not sure ive ever said he is worth our first.
im just some schmuck on bigfooty who is willing to have a guess at his trade value.
im not personally doing the trade.
Thats lucky for you. id give you gonorrhoea and a bad case of the sniffles.
dont take it so personal bloke.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Has the rule changed? Luke Ball did it in the ND, without any re-negotiation - he just told Collingwood he'd tack a cheap third year on.

Not sure, not entirely on top of it.

 

[Dirty_11]

Is he not allowed to have an athletic apparel and footwear sponsor? He is a professional athlete, after all.

Have their been any details of the deal made public? What exactly did the AFL tick off? What is his role at Puma? Is it a conflict of interest seeing that Puma is Richmond's apparel sponser? All legitimate questions.

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[The Filth Wizard]

That's the thing you said it yourself it's your opinion. As if he's worth pick 20 wtf are you on?

How do we keep going back to this. *One week "sure he's worth our first" *next week "oh we'll take him in the psd if you don't take our 2nd". Gtfo this isn't some sought of bs where teams try and screw each other over.

Both your coach and president (or whatever Koch is) have been quoted as saying that Polec doesn't deserve the money we've offered him and by all appearances are standing firm on a 500k three year deal. So the question to ask then is when we hit the start of trade discussions should the deal be based upon where North values him or should it be where Port values him based on their own public views? That Polec is out of contract means it's closer towards the latter.

Now, according to this article: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...t/news-story/7a935910f59170b0c540a21200bd945a Port valued Jack Watts at 500k @ three years (the fact Melbourne are tipping in neither here nor there) which is the exact value you've placed on Polec. Considering you paid pick 31 for Watts and are in a position where you could lose the player altogether it stands to reason North will be approaching this trade with a view to hold on to pick 11 does it not? Based on the above info the pick 20 buttox presented actually represents very fair value in the market Port itself established less than a year ago.

 

[Snake_Baker]

so your offer will be? some magic beans?

Id be shocked if port let him walk for less than this years first.

Like I stated mate, it's not my opinion, but that is getting expressed.

My guess is that it's brinkmanship due to Port's initial chest beating.

 

[rainwizard39]

Both your coach and president (or whatever Koch is) have been quoted as saying that Polec doesn't deserve the money we've offered him and by all appearances are standing firm on a 500k three year deal. So the question to ask then is when we hit the start of trade discussions should the deal be based upon where North values him or should it be where Port values him based on their own public views? That Polec is out of contract means it's closer towards the latter.

Now, according to this article: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...t/news-story/7a935910f59170b0c540a21200bd945a Port valued Jack Watts at 500k @ three years (the fact Melbourne are tipping in neither here nor there) which is the exact value you've placed on Polec. Considering you paid pick 31 for Watts and are in a position where you could lose the player altogether it stands to reason North will be approaching this trade with a view to hold on to pick 11 does it not? Based on the above info the pick 20 buttox presented actually represents very fair value in the market Port itself established less than a year ago.

It's a strange thing comparing players to other players value. Do we look at Weller deal and assume anyone better is worth pick 1 or Dangerfields trade and give pick 10 and useless extras for the best players in the league? Heck Melbourne were so keen to loose Watts it's reported they're paying some of his salary why would we offer more then what's needed? Fact is others values doesn't have anything to do with another player.

Port want your first they've even came out and said it what's so hard about that? You'll only use it on Tarryn Thomas anyway. Unless Tarryn Thomas doesn't enter the draft pick 10 to North is like pick 20.

 

[Snake_Baker]

So why are they are chasing Lycett?

They'd want to get Ryder forward I reckon. He's getting banged up in the ruck.

 

[Arthur Dunger]

Both your coach and president (or whatever Koch is) have been quoted as saying that Polec doesn't deserve the money we've offered him and by all appearances are standing firm on a 500k three year deal. So the question to ask then is when we hit the start of trade discussions should the deal be based upon where North values him or should it be where Port values him based on their own public views? That Polec is out of contract means it's closer towards the latter.

Now, according to this article: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...t/news-story/7a935910f59170b0c540a21200bd945a Port valued Jack Watts at 500k @ three years (the fact Melbourne are tipping in neither here nor there) which is the exact value you've placed on Polec. Considering you paid pick 31 for Watts and are in a position where you could lose the player altogether it stands to reason North will be approaching this trade with a view to hold on to pick 11 does it not? Based on the above info the pick 20 buttox presented actually represents very fair value in the market Port itself established less than a year ago.

Just for fun why don't you mention the 5yr 700 - 750k a year offer North have tabled for Polec as a part of valuation!

 

[Snake_Baker]

Might seem unrealistic but it’s still more realistic than North not offering their first pick to facilitate the trade. There’s no reason to think this trade happens if they don’t.

If Polec state's he's going, he's going.

The trading then becomes an issue between the clubs.

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Just for fun why don't you mention the 5yr 700 - 750k a year offer North have tabled for Polec as a part of valuation!

Because its 5 years at 600-650k, it has been from the start; only Sam McClure and mostly South Australian media people (and a few at Port as well) have pushed this 700+k narrative, for example Cornes pushed the figured to 800k+. It doesn't really matter that's there a bit of difference, Port will be fairly compensated. Inflating the figures is pure self aggrandizing.

 

[Arthur Dunger]

Because its 5 years at 600-650k, only Sam McClure and mostly South Australian media people (and a few at Port as well) have pushed this 700+k narrative, for example Cornes pushed the figured to 800k+. It doesn't really matter that's there a bit of difference, Port will be fairly compensated. Inflate the figures if it makes you feel better about everything.

Why be so condescending? I'm only going by the figures that I've seen reported. Have you seen the contract or are you basing your figure to best suit the narrative you wish to follow?

 

[Snake_Baker]

Because its 5 years at 600-650k, it has been from the start; only Sam McClure and mostly South Australian media people (and a few at Port as well) have pushed this 700+k narrative, for example Cornes pushed the figured to 800k+. It doesn't really matter that's there a bit of difference, Port will be fairly compensated. Inflating the figures is pure self aggrandizing.

The only real relevance of the North contract is whether Port will place an offer in front of Polec that will sway him to stay.

It has no bearing on anything beyond that point.