News Jeff Garlett has re-signed for 3 years

[Marc Shmurf 3]

Hopefully with the new contract he comes out of this form slump. Ever since the Bulldogs game and especially the last Collingwood game when he kicked 4 behinds (3 posters i think) he has looked like he has been second guessing himself. Prior to those games he was a lock for AA.

Come on Jeffy. Well done with the new contract, now get back to the form pre Bulldogs game.

 

[coryne]

Great news !!!!!!! There was a while there some people (not me) were complaining about our lack of players signing on. Now he have people extending contracts !!!!!!!

 

[KennyHunter9]

Fantastic news!!!

Well done Blues & well done Jeffy

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

I had Garlett down as contracted until 2012. Bad info?

Who cares now. We have another 3 years of Jeffy. One for each year.

We had the same. It's probably a contract extension as the wording is not that he signed a 3 year contract, but that he signed a contract that will see him main at Carlton for the next 3 years. He would have been on a pittance for next year so maybe that was all upgraded a little.

Edit: Acknowledging Harker's edit.

 

[le dominateur]

Great news, take that you West Coast scum.

 

[SE_Blue]

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That is all.

 

[Blues_Man]

Well done Jeffy boy !!

 

[40yearBLUE]

Hopefully with the new contract he comes out of this form slump. Ever since the Bulldogs game and especially the last Collingwood game when he kicked 4 behinds (3 posters i think) he has looked like he has been second guessing himself. Prior to those games he was a lock for AA.

Come on Jeffy. Well done with the new contract, now get back to the form pre Bulldogs game.

Wouldnt mind posting some pictorial evidence would you. Say a control pic of him where we know for sure he didnt second guess himself, then one of him where we know for sure he second guessed himself and one where we aren't really sure either way. Might help some understand just wtf you are talkin bout Willis.

 

[zeeCFC]

No I'm with Shmurf, lost form since then :S

 

[40yearBLUE]

No I'm with Shmurf, lost form since then :S

Not arguing that he has or hasnt, stats would suggest he has, what I am questioning is this look he has of second guessing, what is that, does the lip curl, the brow furrow, arms flap uncontrollably what?

If you think he has lost form say so, but this insight into supposed underlying psychology that some posters profess to have is intriguing.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Wouldnt mind posting some pictorial evidence would you. Say a control pic of him where we know for sure he didnt second guess himself, then one of him where we know for sure he second guessed himself and one where we aren't really sure either way. Might help some understand just wtf you are talkin bout Willis.

If we relied on photographic evidence to justify an opinion, the board would shut down. It wasn't exactly critical and if it was it was constructive.

FWIW, I think Garlett has lost the handle on the ball a little of late, and his confidence appears down as a result. Just not as clean as he was earlier in the year, and his kicking is obviously down a bit.

Not bagging him for it, just recognising that our players do have their ups and downs. Shame for him though, because he was in AA form early in the season.

 

[zeeCFC]

Not arguing that he has or hasnt, stats would suggest he has, what I am questioning is this look he has of second guessing, what is that, does the lip curl, the brow furrow, arms flap uncontrollably what?

If you think he has lost form say so, but this insight into supposed underlying psychology that some posters profess to have is intriguing.

Such a pointless topic to argue...

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

Not arguing that he has or hasnt, stats would suggest he has, what I am questioning is this look he has of second guessing, what is that, does the lip curl, the brow furrow, arms flap uncontrollably what?

If you think he has lost form say so, but this insight into supposed underlying psychology that some posters profess to have is intriguing.

Playing a game of semantics here mate. Commentators remark all the time what it looks like a player is doing or thinking. As long as it is not being used to fair dinkum pot the guy, then you take it for what it is ... a personal observation.

Again, for mine, when Jeffy was looking to kick from around 50 last week, he was second guessing (many do at that range though), and probably hasn't looked as comfortable body language wise or facial expression wise of late. I believe he knows he has a minor case of the yips and hopefully this contract extension will give him a lift confidence wise, if in fact, he has lost confidence.

I know the persistently negative posters will send anybody off eventually, but your day in day out, call it down the line type posts do not need to be targeted.

 

[mickelboy182]

Some people just love to argue don't they!

 

[40yearBLUE]

Playing a game of semantics here mate. Commentators remark all the time what it looks like a player is doing or thinking. As long as it is not being used to fair dinkum pot the guy, then you take it for what it is ... a personal observation.

Again, for mine, when Jeffy was looking to kick from around 50 last week, he was second guessing (many do at that range though), and probably hasn't looked as comfortable body language wise or facial expression wise of late. I believe he knows he has a minor case of the yips and hopefully this contract extension will give him a lift confidence wise, if in fact, he has lost confidence.

I know the persistently negative posters will send anybody off eventually, but your day in day out, call it down the line type posts do not need to be targeted.

My bad, commentators are paid to waffle on about bullshit so that there arent extended periods of silence between the words necessary to convey what is actually going on, not totally dissimilar to here really where posters feel compelled to pointlessly make up stuff to fill their posts as if it makes their post somehow more worthy.......forgot where I was for a moment......like I said my bad, carry on.

 

[The Old Dark Navy's]

My bad, commentators are paid to waffle on about bullshit so that there arent extended periods of silence between the words necessary to convey what is actually going on, not totally dissimilar to here really where posters feel compelled to pointlessly make up stuff to fill their posts as if it makes their post somehow more worthy.......forgot where I was for a moment......like I said my bad, carry on.

Perhaps you can point out the harm in the post that you are so upset about? I mean, I am as positive as anybody around here, but if someone expresses and opinion and articulates that opinion constructively, and is not overly repetitive and negative, then that is the very essence of what a forum is about.

I can guarantee you that the club themselves are not all sunshine and lollipops, and will articulate concerns and issues they have with certain players. What we don't want here on the boards is an unacceptable level of abuse or criticism towards players, that you wouldn't expect from a supporter.

Put it this way, if we become as anal as you seem to be suggesting we should, in making people prove every personal observation they have, constructive or otherwise, then we might as well shut the boards down.

The bad stuff gets dealt with, the rest people can take or leave as they see fit. Nobody here is going to like everything they read but hopefully they get enough out of the stuff they do like to read, that they stick around.

I am quite happy for your to disagree with a post and post your own reasons though, but right now you are objecting to the manner of the post and ignoring the point raised. There was nothing pointlessly made up in that post, there was an observation and not all observations need to have evidence provided.

If the poster said that Garlett was down on confidence and used that as a basis to continually argue their point or to slag off at Garlett, there may be a burden of proof issue, but that just doesn't apply in this instance.

Speaking of waffle, we are perilously close to permanently derailing this thread, through a conversation that is truly pointless.

 

[Mister Carlton]

Congrats to Jeff for signing a 3 year deal. I thought he was homesick....

 

[Beloved]

Not arguing that he has or hasnt, stats would suggest he has, what I am questioning is this look he has of second guessing, what is that, does the lip curl, the brow furrow, arms flap uncontrollably what?

If you think he has lost form say so, but this insight into supposed underlying psychology that some posters profess to have is intriguing.

Really?

How's this for lack of confidence.

Rounds 1-12 averages
Disposals: 13.6
Marks: 3.9
Goals: 2.5
Behinds: 1.3
Tackles: 3.7

Rounds 12-22 averages
Disposals: 10.9
Marks: 3.1
Goals: 1.6
Behinds: 1.4
Tackles: 4


The only improvement in the second half of the season has been tackling and behinds. The other three categories are down considerably.

 

[40yearBLUE]

Perhaps you can point out the harm in the post that you are so upset about?

No harm at all, I just find it far more "real" to talk about real things. Stats down real, technical flaws real, fitness levels down real, injuries real, contract signed real, pseudo pop psychology (even from psychologists let alone the calibre we have here) totally not real. Just sayin.

(For mine, the only reference to a players psychology should be references to comments made by said player themselves that he felt a bit down on confidence or whatever, NOT on the observations of people that have never met, never spoken to, never had anything whatsoever to do with other than that of a casual observer).

But hey, its your world boss.

 

[40yearBLUE]

Really?

How's this for lack of confidence.

Rounds 1-12 averages
Disposals: 13.6
Marks: 3.9
Goals: 2.5
Behinds: 1.3
Tackles: 3.7

Rounds 12-22 averages
Disposals: 10.9
Marks: 3.1
Goals: 1.6
Behinds: 1.4
Tackles: 4


The only improvement in the second half of the season has been tackling and behinds. The other three categories are down considerably.

And you think this suggests a lack of confidence? For all you know it is because of over confidence.

As I said, not arguing his form is down a little, although I tend to agree with Harks, there are so many variables to the game that simply noting his stats does not tell the entire story, but I am a stats man and I agree his stats are down. But then I dont know what his instructions have been either. (also note that stats are averages and not linear, for example round 21 he had 6 tackles, way above average yet he is apparently in a form slump...... for example is it a coincidence that as his numbers are down, Eddies are up, could it be a different set of instructions.........all things that could explain numbers instead of made up pop psych stuff)

And given his relatively young football age I am not surprised he trails off each season.

I just dont like embellishing.

 

[Blueboys7]

Jizz....!

 

[The_Wookie]

ive noticed garlett playing up the ground a bit more these days too, maybe this is why his tackles are up.

 

[Beloved]

ive noticed garlett playing up the ground a bit more these days too, maybe this is why his tackles are up.

Forwards that aren't able to get their hands on the ball generally push up the ground to try and get them in the game.

 

[The_Wookie]

which explains why all our forwards do it i guess

 

[40yearBLUE]

which explains why all our forwards do it i guess

Yeah cos 50 goal forwards are a dime a dozen these days.....