Traded Jesse Hogan [traded with #65 to Fremantle for #6 and #23]

[RUNVS]

And when we get 5, maybe we will go back and offer that? Can’t offer what we don’t have

You could have had it days ago.

 

[nurries]

Only by choice. You could have it quite easily.

Gotta give up something to get something.

Where is the article saying Lions offered pick 5 for Neale and Freo have knocked it back?

 

[Tom14]

And when we get 5, maybe we will go back and offer that? Can’t offer what we don’t have

Why make a big song and dance and send out that statement? Just keeping waiting out and hope we give you a better deal.

 

[Iva Bigun]

This is hilarious, Freo spent years trying to get Hogan to come home and held the go home factor over the Dees heads as a constant threat. They have now removed this threat as Hogan wont want anything to do with this rabble moving forward. Expect Hogan to see out his career as a Dee which is a massive win for the Dees.

The kicker is Freo saying 5 isn't good enough for Neale but then turning around and low-balling on Hogan. Thanks for taking the laughing stock batten away from my club.

 

[Antares]

Yeah and we haven’t got what we want from Brisbane yet. Sound familiar? Or is it only Melbourne thts allowed to say no to a deal?

So? If it were a case of waiting for it to arrive, Peter Bell wouldn't be coming out and announcing Fremantle are pulling out of Hogan.

The reality is, you botched this hard, and are now the laughing stock of the AFL.

 

[Tbonefreo]

Looks like a few regular garage sale attendees in here.

 

[mpal6]

We don’t have 5

you know where to find it

 

[BG__]

Tbh probably the smart move to play hardball.

But jesus freo must be the biggest pain in the ass to negotiate with. Demand pick 2 for Lachie Weller, have a huge price on Neale. Now finally someone wants to come to their s***hole of a club and they don't want to offer up anything close to what they demand from other clubs.

 

[youbeautfyfe]

This is hilarious, Freo spent years trying to get Hogan to come home and held the go home factor over the Dees heads as a constant threat. They have now removed this threat as Hogan wont want anything to do with this rabble moving forward. Expect Hogan to see out his career as a Dee which is a massive win for the Dees.

The kickers is Freo saying 5 isn't good enough for Neale but then turning around and low-balling on Hogan. Thanks for taking the laughing stock batten away from my club.

Pick 2 for Weller.

Restored it for you.

 

[Tom14]

Where is the article saying Lions offered pick 5 for Neale and Freo have knocked it back?

Here you go! https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl-tr...-is-lachie-neale-actually-worth-ng-b88986696z

Brisbane have already put their first pick, currently No.5, on the table and are also believed to have dangled pick No.24 before shifting it to Gold Coast in a pick swap. The Dockers rejected it.

 

[RUNVS]

Sonny Weaver, Jr.: "Every year someone comes out of this looking like a donkey. Can you hear me?"

Jeff Carson: "Yeah"

Sonny Weaver, Jr.: "Good, because tomorrow I've got a feeling that could be you if you don't make this deal."

 

[BarbieITFC]

Just hearing that Melbourne never asked for 2 first rounders they would have been happy for pick 5 and 23 lol

So one might concede that Freo's tactics are already working.

Melb: It will be one of the highest value trades ever - two first rounders minimum
Freo: We don't want to lose Neale, so we may not have pick 5
Melb: May is contingent on trading out Hogan
Freo: Let's take pick 6 off the table by trading it to Port for a bunch of lower picks
Melb: Freo are stalling
Freo: Here's our offer - by the way it's the highest offer we can make with the picks we have now
Melb: That's an insulting bid
Freo: OK, we're done here
Melb: Well actually we would have accepted 5 and 23

I know which bits I would put in a negotiating text book...

 

[mpal6]

So two things are likely here:

1) They’re bluffing. Melbourne want May, Brisbane want Neale. This allows them to play hardball with Brisbane and brings Collingwood back in it for May. So Melbourne now take less for Hogan so May gets done, and keeps Brisbane guessing.

2) Fremantle’s offer was final. This is either because:

1) Freo are the new Essendon and try to be hard men. In which case lol.
2) Hogan’s medical wasn’t quite right. They did say he passed it but maybe it was a qualified pass and the navicular is more troublesome than it might overwise appear. In that case the deal might be off.

My original guess was #1, but if what Barrett is saying is true (hint: it might not be) then we start to think 2. In that case we’ll be seeing who’s laughing in a couple of years time.

I look forward to Hogan dominating from West coast forward line taking over from Kennedy . Tears will be sweet then haha.

 

[Coaster2012]

Now Hogan goes to WC for pick 20.

Could you imagine?

In all seriousness, Hogan when fit is as elite as they come. What were Freo thinking? They could get him for pick 11? Give me a break.

 

[Moo]

For a club that just had a massive win in retaining a fully fit power forward of a generation ....there sure is a lot of saltiness in the air from Dees fans.

Massive win no?

Also surprisingly a lot of concern about our future forward structure....why do you care?

Pretty obvious we're not dealing with a fit & firing Hogan are we. Melb superkeen to move him, Freo reluctant to up an average offer.

 

[00Stinger]

Jesse Hogan will go into next year knowing the dees wanted to flip him and try take advantage of his delicate situation. He won’t resign and he’ll most likely leave next season. Probably not to Freo but still.

He will also know the club that has wooed him for 4 years and offered him a $1.2m a year deal have ****ed him when he finally stuck his neck out and said he will join them.

Freo gonna Freo

 

[nurries]

Here you go! https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl-tr...-is-lachie-neale-actually-worth-ng-b88986696z

That wasn't anything official from a club was it?

No. It is a guess

 

[BRWB]

Never change Freo. Yesterday he was fit enough to warrant an offer. Today they pull out saying the Dees wanted too much when its being reported as 5 and 23 ie effectively Neale for Hogan.

Hilarious by Freo (assuming they aren't Dodo'ing it up).

 

[BomberARMY]

**** me, Fremantle are a bunch of amatuers. Had 1 decent key forward in 23years and say no when a 10 year prospect finally agrees to come home..

Goodluck with the perennial underachieving. Hacks.

 

[footyfan1978]

This is hilarious, Freo spent years trying to get Hogan to come home and held the go home factor over the Dees heads as a constant threat. They have now removed this threat as Hogan wont want anything to do with this rabble moving forward. Expect Hogan to see out his career as a Dee which is a massive win for the Dees.

The kickers is Freo saying 5 isn't good enough for Neale but then turning around and low-balling on Hogan. Thanks for taking the laughing stock batten away from my club.

Slow down. You did give them pick 2 for Weller last off season, but yeah, this is a ****ing joke how they carrying on. If Weller is pick 2 in their eyes. Hogan is two top end first round picks without doubt. If Hogan wants to live in Perth any time soon, Eagles is the place. But you maybe right, he may screw this, Demons been good to me, I am playing with them my whole career now.

 

[Coach_Required]

So one might concede that Freo's tactics are already working.

Melb: It will be one of the highest value trades ever - two first rounders minimum
Freo: We don't want to lose Neale, so we may not have pick 5
Melb: May is contingent on trading out Hogan
Freo: Let's take pick 6 off the table by trading it to Port for a bunch of lower picks
Melb: Freo are stalling
Freo: Here's our offer - by the way it's the highest offer we can make with the picks we have now
Melb: That's an insulting bid
Freo: OK, we're done here
Melb: Well actually we would have accepted 5 and 23

I know which bits I would put in a negotiating text book...

Keep dreaming ... I doubt your getting Hogan anymore.

 

[Andrew Birch]

Melbourne released the info on Trengrove

Kreuzer failed a Collingwood medical 3 years ago.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/collingwood-out-of-race-for-matthew-kreuzer-20150915-gjngh7.html

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Instead of celebrating Hogan staying a Melbourne player, Demons supporters are bagging fremantle for not taking him of their hands.

I think that tells you about how Demon's supporters value Hogan deep down.

 

[Obeanie1]

So? If it were a case of waiting for it to arrive, Peter Bell wouldn't be coming out and announcing Fremantle are pulling out of Hogan.

The reality is, you botched this hard, and are now the laughing stock of the AFL.

All part of the dance.

Freo saying they are out after offering 11 + a 2nd.

When they do get the Lions pick 5 they replace 11 with 5 and the Dees will take it.

Freo won't need to pay 5 + 11, they get to keep 11.

Smart play by Freo.......................................or they've botched it!

 

[mpal6]

Now Hogan goes to WC for pick 20.

Could you imagine?

In all seriousness, Hogan when fit is as elite as they come. What were Freo thinking? They could get him for pick 11? Give me a break.

Tinkerbell never liked the fact that Pavlich had a higher profile than him .
Small man syndrome, struggling to close deals now.