Player Watch Jordan Dawson - Our New Captain!

[Danger in Texas]

Dawson leaving has nothing to do with cap. He wants to come back to SA to be closer to family and start a family here. If he wanted to live in Sydney and play for the swans he would have stayed. His decision has nothing to do with money as we have basically offered around the same amount as Sydney. A massive loss is losing Dangerfield, Cameron, Lever, when you are in a premiership window. From my recollection the only players that have left your club is Jones and Allir that I can recollect.

The crows are willing to give Sydney fair value but they aren't going to be bent over by unrealistic demands. We can only give up what we have. I said from the beginning that 23 and an exchange of 2022 2nd's was fair value or alternatively the other option is 23 and a player. There may be a player that is willing to move to Sydney that may suit your needs. Pushing for pick 4 just isn't going to happen. You were fine with pick 34 for Allir Allir who is just as good as Dawson and also fine with a around pick 35 for Jones. If the swans push for a deal which isn't realistic you will likely end up with nothing. Just as Charlie Cameron wasn't coming back to the Crows, Dawson isn't coming back to the Swans. Generally a deal takes place when both clubs are disappointed with the result. It's called compromise.

Good post, sums it up pretty well

If Dawson was on the fence about whether he stayed with the Swans or took the deal with the Crows, he would've taken the 50k less from the contending Swans straight up. Reality is, he wants to live in SA, he wants to be a Crow, and a relatively fair trade will be agreed upon eventually

 

[ams4crows]

Is trade week going to be in Melbourne?? The Covid situation is escalating pretty quickly over there, wonder if the AFL will move it to another state or will it all be via zoom?

 

[Danger in Texas]

Is trade week going to be in Melbourne?? The Covid situation is escalating pretty quickly over there, wonder if the AFL will move it to another state or will it all be via zoom?

I’m guessing Zoom, like last year? Doesn’t seem feasible to have it totally in person just yet

 

[70lethal]

Can only hope Tom Browne says Sydney will get pick 4 for Jordie.

 

[hey shorty]

Hahaha.. Harley didn't say that. What Harley did say is that ....
Dawson is a very very very good player
Swans have put alot of development into Dawson over the last 6 years
Dawson has been and still is a very important part of the Swans future. Harley said this bit three times!

If you want Dawson, you'll need to offer a fair trade. (p23 is not even close). Swans won't send Dawson to the PSD. If you dont offer a fair trade, Dawson will re-sign with the Swans.
We'll get a good idea of just how hard the Swans will play this tomorrow. If Swans let Hewett go, according to Harley, they'll have enough cap space to keep Dawson. Swans want to hang on to one of them (ideally Dawson)

Swans list was getting set up to revolve around the 24-25yo's Heeney, Papley, Mills, Dawson (+Paddy McCartin). Plan is for this group to lead the younger players for the next 6-8 years. Dawson is a massive lost, I can see him playing at the Swans in 2022

He won't re-sign with the Swans.

Harley is talking tough but he wound know we hold the whip hand

 

[pjcrows]

Flicked Trade Radio on for the first time this year.

Kane. "Keep an eye on Port - they'll sit there quietly with Pick 16, Dawson has toured their facilities, who knows what can happen".

The laugh I got out of that will sustain me for weeks.

 

[hey shorty]

There's not going to be any "big name" player movement this year so Dawson is the one they've drilled in on, coupled with that particular media company's long held disdain for our footy club.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

OK SYD ....so after all the "huffing & puffing" .....what is your fallback strategy for an "uncontracted" player ??

Saying you're not going to accept #23 is fine ......so what do you do if that's what you're offered ? .....send Dawson to the PSD

Seems to me that clubs pull on the heart strings, by saying how valuable a player is, how much work they've put into the player ....and relying on goodwill between clubs to get a fair deal ....but that's all that's at play here, goodwill

 

[Relaxed]

Aliir Aliir

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Aliir Aliir

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194cm

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96kg

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9.3

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1.9

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240.9

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11.0

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6.0

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5.0

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3.0

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2.0

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13.0

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6.4

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6.6

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3.8

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2.0

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MG

158.4

3star

was traded to Port for a future second last year(pick 35, 2021), as a 26 year old, having been taken at pick 44 in 2013.

Aliir traded to Port Adelaide

The Sydney Swans have finalised a trade with Port Adelaide that will see defender Aliir Aliir move to the Power in exchange for a future 2nd round pick.

www.sydneyswans.com.au

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He just finished 3rd in Port's best and fairest.

I wonder what Sydney would be asking Port for Aliir, if he had finished third in their BnF last year?

Dawson was drafted at pick 56 in 2015. Getting him off the books also helps their salary cap situation. They can have either pick 23 or 37 + Kelly compo (or Himmelberg).

 

[Crows I Am]

There's not going to be any "big name" player movement this year so Dawson is the one they've drilled in on, coupled with that particular media company's long held disdain for our footy club.

Cerra is the other one, but he is a big name going to a Vic club, so I'm sure they will push the angle that Freo should just accept whatever Carlton offer so he can get home to his family...

 

[hey shorty]

Cerra is the other one, but he is a big name going to a Vic club, so I'm sure they will push the angle that Freo should just accept whatever Carlton offer so he can get home to his family...

Which they already have

 

[Mego Red]

Look, I'm fine for it to be 23 and 37, just so it gets done.

Anything else - frontload and PSD.

 

[Mego Red]

Cerra is the other one, but he is a big name going to a Vic club, so I'm sure they will push the angle that Freo should just accept whatever Carlton offer so he can get home to his family...

To be fair, mist reports have been saying 6 and something else, which seems pretty good from Freo's end

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Maybe we'd have more sympathy for Sydney if we'd ever had a promising player leave who we'd drafted, developed and put significant investment into

 

[Crows I Am]

To be fair, mist reports have been saying 6 and something else, which seems pretty good from Freo's end

I would have thought a straight swap of pick 6 should get the deal done.

 

[feenix67]

I would have thought a straight swap of pick 6 should get the deal done.

Needs to be more. Pick 6 in the draft is an untried 18 year old hopeful. Cerra is now proven goods

 

[Danger in Texas]

Look, I'm fine for it to be 23 and 37, just so it gets done.

Anything else - frontload and PSD.

I’d prefer not to give up another pick this year

2022 3rd instead of 37, for mine (or future pick swap)

 

[Go the Guts]

OK SYD ....so after all the "huffing & puffing" .....what are your fallback strategy for an "uncontracted" player ??

Saying you're not going at accept #23 is fine ......so what do you do if that's what you're offered ? .....send Dawson to the PSD

Seems to me that clubs pull on the heart strings, by saying how valuable a player is, how much work they've put into the player ....and relying on goodwill between clubs to get a fair deal ....but that's all that's at play here, goodwill

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Sydney can GTFO, after what they did to us with Tippet.
I'd so love to see us get him through the PSD.

 

[Mutineer]

Needs to be more. Pick 6 in the draft is an untried 18 year old hopeful. Cerra is now proven goods

Cerra is uncontracted right?

Pick 6 is adequate that being the case.

 

[Mego Red]

Needs to be more. Pick 6 in the draft is an untried 18 year old hopeful. Cerra is now proven goods

Cerra is an uncontracted player who has left his employer.

That Freo can get this level of return on him is pretty good.

 

[Go the Guts]

Maybe we'd have more sympathy for Sydney if we'd ever had a promising player leave who we'd drafted, developed and put significant investment into

Lol yes! Dangerfield Gunston Lever Cameron Lyons Greenwood Keath and more ...... Sydney can GAGF.

 

[Mego Red]

I’d prefer not to give up another pick this year

2022 3rd instead of 37, for mine (or future pick swap)

Maybe - we should get pick 38 or similar for Kelly, so we do have another late pick there.

We don't want THAT many picks this year. That being said, if it's a 2022 then fine.

 

[Crows I Am]

Needs to be more. Pick 6 in the draft is an untried 18 year old hopeful. Cerra is now proven goods

Maybe a swap of later picks to put it more into Freo's favour, but he is uncontracted so I think pick 6 is pretty spot on.

 

[MRB37]

I'm sure Dwayne knows for sure...

 

[George Kramer]

I'm sure Dwayne knows for sure...

That’s why Dawson agreed to come….