MasterOfMuppets
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- Oct 12, 2009
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- AFL Club
- North Melbourne
easily the worse caotain in the afl! shud have stoped Fervola with his steven segal moves. hshaha
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Hey anti just before I reply to Big Kris, actually you might like to rethink what you said about Judd being sacked. I think if you take time to do some research you will quickly find that Judd sacked your club.
Hey anti just before I reply to Big Kris, actually you might like to rethink what you said about Judd being sacked. I think if you take time to do some research you will quickly find that Judd sacked your club. Did the penny drop he left the eagles while still captain. Kris how can you actually say that Sam Mitchell has controlled buddy. I am thinking of a old base ball saying 3 strikes and your out. Buddy like Fev are amazing players but its their uncontrollable personality that makes them that good. You start trying to rein them in and they will fall back to the rest of the pack. They have to be themselves. Judd is a premiership captain Norm Smith and Brownlow medalist. Little Sam has a long way to go to catch Judd or be in a position to control Buddy. Yes it is a football forum and those that undestand football can appreciate Judd's qualities on and off the field. A true captain
Cousins was still the Captain, let's be honest.
Judd is a gun player, but he seems to be too introverted to be a gun Captain - he reminds me a lot of Kane Cornes; great player, works his arse off, highly professional - but a Vice Captain more than a Captain.
I don't understand how people outside clubs can rate captains or their ability to lead the team. 90% of their job is done behind closed doors, how can anyone outside the club have a clue?
I'm sure I will receive lots of interesting feedback though this has been playing on my mind of late so thought I would throw it out there.
Chris Judd is a legend of the game, could easily be a multiple brownlow winner and is probably the best clearance player I have ever seen.
However, what makes a captain a captain? Juddy was in charge of a West Coast team that absolutely self destructed, with massive cultural and behavioural issues. Juddy could not control these issues and packed his bag and left. Is that captain material? What happened to the captain going down with the ship?
The Blues saw captain material in him and gave him the job immediately along with the biggest money in history. Since then, Carlton players have been having punch ups at training, have failed to turn up to training on time and well lets just say they have a good time at the Brownlow forcing the club to trade aguably the best forward in the game. Again, where does the captain assume some responsibility for the players beneath him? Where does leadership come into it? Or is 30 touches a game enough to earn you the captaincy?
I have always expected more of leadership than individual brilliance....what do you think?
I used to watch Judd at various eagles functions and parties, both before and during his captaincy, and he wasn't a captain in my eyes. Cousins was always the leader and captain, even if the title was taken from him. Judd is an excellent vice captain, or member of the leadership group, he's very articulate and thinks about his footy and the club, and will never put a foot wrong on or off the field, his professionalism is second to none, but I didn't think he was or is ever reAL captain material. Great captains lead naturally, Judd just isn't that type of personality.
That said, I don't blame him for the things that have gone wrong at either club, the players are all grown men and have to take responsibility for themselves, to blame the captain for what occured at either club is just passing the buck, the players should be professional enough to not need nannying by the captain, simple as that.
As for him being a Captain - well he's not much of a leader on the field,
haha true, I didn't think about that. He's never struck me as that type of player, and to be honest I don't think it's premeditated on his part, just a moment of stupidity where he lashes out in a very bad manner. But yes, those incidents are definitely a blemish on his record and a low act really, especially from a captain.Condoning the eye gouging then?
However, what makes a captain a captain? Juddy was in charge of a West Coast team that absolutely self destructed, with massive cultural and behavioural issues.
Juddy could not control these issues and packed his bag and left. Is that captain material? What happened to the captain going down with the ship?
The Blues saw captain material in him and gave him the job immediately along with the biggest money in history.
Since then, Carlton players have been having punch ups at training
have failed to turn up to training on time and well lets just say they have a good time at the Brownlow forcing the club to trade aguably the best forward in the game.
Again, where does the captain assume some responsibility for the players beneath him? Where does leadership come into it? Or is 30 touches a game enough to earn you the captaincy?
I have always expected more of leadership than individual brilliance....what do you think?
And why did Judd not provide enough influence to prevent events getting to what they have?
I'm sure I will receive lots of interesting feedback though this has been playing on my mind of late so thought I would throw it out there.
Chris Judd is a legend of the game, could easily be a multiple brownlow winner and is probably the best clearance player I have ever seen.
However, what makes a captain a captain? Juddy was in charge of a West Coast team that absolutely self destructed, with massive cultural and behavioural issues. Juddy could not control these issues and packed his bag and left. Is that captain material? What happened to the captain going down with the ship?
The Blues saw captain material in him and gave him the job immediately along with the biggest money in history. Since then, Carlton players have been having punch ups at training, have failed to turn up to training on time and well lets just say they have a good time at the Brownlow forcing the club to trade aguably the best forward in the game. Again, where does the captain assume some responsibility for the players beneath him? Where does leadership come into it? Or is 30 touches a game enough to earn you the captaincy?
I have always expected more of leadership than individual brilliance....what do you think?
he was sacked from west coast for that very reason, a very poor leader.
John,
Thats exactly the kind of response I expected from you, again touting Judds indidual brilliance rather that his leadership ability. He is a gun footballer capable of winning brownlows etc, no debate!
What results has he shown off the field? What qualities has he shown off the field? This year even is usual ability in the media faultered with his off-key joke about Steven Segal. Thats not to mention his on-field pressure point conduct.
I would also be careful about making accusations about unconfirmed reports about Buddy.