News Koch blocks Tredders push for the board

[raptalia]

Warren went and asked after he spoke to Darren Cahill, who recommended to Koch that Warren replace him.

What is presumptuous about Warren then asking to be considered for the board after he was recommended by Darren??

If Darren didn't tell Warren he recommended him, Warren probably would have never considered a board position.

We only had 1 elite sports industry person on our board, they have seen how things work, they resigned due to international travel commitments and being out of Oz for about 35 weeks a year, and have recommended one of our most elite players from our AFL era, arguably our most driven, to replace him - then he is rejected by some bullshit "good governance and transparency" line.

So Koch is saying to Kathy Nagle you are really useless because when a past player wants to run for the board he should run for the member elected position. Warren will run against you in late 2023/2024, so you are effectively terminated??

Who is going to produce more good for the football part of the business, Kathy Nagle over 12 months or Warren next February. Its madness.

Cannot agree, but that is what living in a free society is all about. It is not up to Darren Cahill to nominate who gets his seat on the Board it is the Board's prerogative to fill the casual vacancy with the person they think will best serve the interests of the footy club. I stand by my original statement as I think an individual knocking on the door saying Joe Blow has nominated me to take his set on the Board so when do I start is very presumptuous as it shows little knowledge of due process. As I have explained I do not like the system but it is the one we work with. What you and those who agree with you seem to be suggesting is that existing Board members should be able nominate their mates for Board vacancies. Would you be happy if Cos Cardone decided to pull the pin and nominated one of his mates from McGuire Media to fill his spot? I do not give a rat's what Killer Cahill wants as he is pissing off after less than four years in the job so given his situation maybe he was not the best choice for a Board position? If the Board intends to replace like with like they will go for someone with an international sporting background. Maybe some one like Anna Meares who is already a Port Adelaide Ambassador would be a good choice? If not maybe Kyle Chalmers or Bruce Djite who are also Port Ambassadors could fill the role, unlike some past appointments they are all Port supporters. You never know the nett gain at the end of 2023 might be that we have Warren Tredrea and one of the aforementioned on the Board.

As for Kathy Nagle David Koch does not have to say anything to Kathy as she will understand the situation and will have the opportunity to run against Tredders at the end of the year, if he is still interested. About the only semblance of a democratic process we have left in the Club is the election of Member Nominees and no one should have a problem with that. In any case as you know the AFL has to rubber stamp Board appointments and maybe they have objections to Warren Tredrea getting a shot it- I am not saying they would veto an appointment but in these strange times who knows?

In any case Tredders does not seem to be up in arms about the rejection and we appear to have supporters who are more upset than Tredders. Hopefully there will be some rational and relevant questions asked at the AGM without creating a circus which plays into the media's hands.

 

[Powerade 08]

I am more than okay with having Tredrea on the Board and actually think he will be an asset. But there are a few things that seem a bit off.
Firstly has had nothing to do with the Club for approx 10 years however when his world comes crashing down he decides to contact the club in late September and tell them he he is ready to take over Darren Cahills position. For all we know the Club and the AFL may have already approached Cahill's replacement and offered them the position. That alone gives me sense of entitlement vibes. Club advises more than happy to have you onboard but you need to wait until December 2024 when Member appointment opens up. Instead of saying, okay wish it was sooner, but will wait the 10 months between Feb 2024 and Dec 2024 he turns to his Media mates to make it a story about him. Suddenly 10 months is an issue when you have been awol for 10 years +.
Dont get me wrong I would like him on the Board but does a true Port person turn this into a circus for the sake of 10 months.

What do you mean his world came crashing down so he decided to be a board member? Does he need to do charity work to collect cenno payments?

 

[Duck Farmer]

I also think it is a tad presumptuous to go to the PAFC door requesting a seat on the Board. These days the majority of Board Members appear to be appointed with an area of expertise in mind ...

Looking at the Board it appears that knowing what it takes to lead a Port Adelaide premiership side is obviously not a valued area of expertise.

Koch directly appointed Ransom in two seconds flat, but hey Tredders wait 12 months and jump through some membership ballot hoops.

Could be wrong but I don't think insufficient levels of millennial disruption was the missing piece of the premiership puzzle.

 

[raptalia]

So who is replacing Cahill then?
Also, isn't this the first public acknowledgment from the club that Cahill is stepping off the board?

This current board is being run like a personal fiefdom by a handful of CV padders.

There are some good candidates with Port ties. I put a couple up in my previous post but it will depend upon what area of expertise the Board thinks works best. Koch maybe smarter than we think he is, he knows Tredders is a shoe in to win a member's vote so he leaves Killer's spot to be filled by a Board nominee. That way we may get two people with elite sporting backgrounds. Personally I do mind Bruce Djite, provided he wants it. Djite is a Port Ambassador, All Together ambassador and Little Heroes Ambassador and he is currently Executive Director of the South Australian Property Council. I am not saying he will be offered the job but there are candidates out there.

 

[Chewy316]

Cannot agree, but that is what living in a free society is all about. It is not up to Darren Cahill to nominate who gets his seat on the Board it is the Board's prerogative to fill the casual vacancy with the person they think will best serve the interests of the footy club. I stand by my original statement as I think an individual knocking on the door saying Joe Blow has nominated me to take his set on the Board so when do I start is very presumptuous as it shows little knowledge of due process. As I have explained I do not like the system but it is the one we work with. What you and those who agree with you seem to be suggesting is that existing Board members should be able nominate their mates for Board vacancies. Would you be happy if Cos Cardone decided to pull the pin and nominated one of his mates from McGuire Media to fill his spot? I do not give a rat's what Killer Cahill wants as he is pissing off after less than four years in the job so given his situation maybe he was not the best choice for a Board position? If the Board intends to replace like with like they will go for someone with an international sporting background. Maybe some one like Anna Meares who is already a Port Adelaide Ambassador would be a good choice? If not maybe Kyle Chalmers or Bruce Djite who are also Port Ambassadors could fill the role, unlike some past appointments they are all Port supporters. You never know the nett gain at the end of 2023 might be that we have Warren Tredrea and one of the aforementioned on the Board.

As for Kathy Nagle David Koch does not have to say anything to Kathy as she will understand the situation and will have the opportunity to run against Tredders at the end of the year, if he is still interested. About the only semblance of a democratic process we have left in the Club is the election of Member Nominees and no one should have a problem with that. In any case as you know the AFL has to rubber stamp Board appointments and maybe they have objections to Warren Tredrea getting a shot it- I am not saying they would veto an appointment but in these strange times who knows?

In any case Tredders does not seem to be up in arms about the rejection and we appear to have supporters who are more upset than Tredders. Hopefully there will be some rational and relevant questions asked at the AGM without creating a circus which plays into the media's hands.

Where have you gotten this idea that Warren has come in all guns blazing saying Cahill recommended me so when do I start? Nothing could be further from the truth.

Cahill recommended him. Warren then asked Darren how to go about putting himself forward to the Board as an option (ie declaring interest in the role). He then contacted Koch to declare said interest. Koch then led Warren on for 5 months before rejecting his application because they didn't want to pick Club Legends over Club Legends. If that was the policy why did Koch string Warren along for 5 months going through the entire application process?

It is hilarious that you are criticising Tredrea about declaring interest in a role, yet in the next breath you mention Meares, Chalmers and Djite as alternatives - none whom have declared interest with Koch (although I know Meares was on the shortlist but pretty sure she can't be considered due to her residency in NZ). I fail to see how any of them are more suitable to the role considering you're identifying them due to their sporting prowess along with their connection to the Club.

Koch can talk about governance and transparency all he likes, but the reality is that this has been an autocratic decision led by a dictator hiding to avoid accountability.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Wouldn't appoint Tredders to SA Health but I'd love him on the board. If Ivan Milat was running on a platform of finally holding Hinkley & co accountable I'd at least be willing to hear him out.

 

[Portology]

I don’t recall - is the voting system first past the post? Maybe Koch expects Fiacchi to run again and wants Tredders there to split the vote?


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[Jojay]

Warren has still been attending every B&F night, pretty sure he attended the 150th anniversary night, up until last year (when he was locked out due to covid vaccination policy at Adelaide Oval) he attended every game. What exactly more do you want of him in terms of being involved with the Club before you see him as being a worthy candidate? When Koch is bringing on West Coast supporters onto our Board the idea that Club legends need to spend more time around the Club to be considered is bullshit.



Would you prefer the Club elect Phil Smyth to the vacant role? Because he's on the short list.

Hasn't Phil Smyth been on the crow's payroll? Pretty sure he was working with them.

 

[P4Life]

What do you mean his world came crashing down so he decided to be a board member? Does he need to do charity work to collect cenno payments?

Are you not aware that he is suing Channel 9 for $6 million because they dumped him and he hasnt been able to get a job since.

 

[raptalia]

I don’t recall - is the voting system first past the post? Maybe Koch expects Fiacchi to run again and wants Tredders there to split the vote?


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As I recall a few years back the Members had a choice between George Fiacchi and Gavin Wanganeen and George, who was apparently exactly what people are saying Tredders could be, lost his spot and Wangas who turned out to be another 'yes' man got the gig. If we could ever get George and Tredders on the Board we would be cooking with gas with Kochie in the pot.

 

[TeeKray]

Check out Cos Cardone's resume on the board of directors page on the PAFC website. It's literally 'I went to uni and now I work for Eddie McGuire' lol.

 

[raptalia]

Are you not aware that he is suing Channel 9 for $6 million because they dumped him and he hasnt been able to get a job since.

Is McGuire Media still tied up with NINE? More to the point is Cos Cardone still on the Port Board. Geez the plot sickens, Tredders asks for a gig on the board, Koch floats it with the Board but Cos torpedoes the deal because his mates at NINE are not happy about Tredders suing them. Not suggesting that is how it panned out but it would make a good plot for a novel.

 

[Jello_B]

He's not, but I reckon Tredrea's faith in "doing his own research" betrays the same character defect that we've come to enjoy so much in Koch.

Lols, I don’t read the covid thread on here but even I could guess which poster liked this post.

 

[Doctor Feel]

If anyone wants to voice their support or chat, Tredders is good at responding on his facebook page.

Have had a few conversations with him from time to time. He absolutely gets it, particularly upset with the club referring to supporters as white noise.

 

[PowerBaz]

Where have you gotten this idea that Warren has come in all guns blazing saying Cahill recommended me so when do I start? Nothing could be further from the truth.

Cahill recommended him. Warren then asked Darren how to go about putting himself forward to the Board as an option (ie declaring interest in the role). He then contacted Koch to declare said interest. Koch then led Warren on for 5 months before rejecting his application because they didn't want to pick Club Legends over Club Legends. If that was the policy why did Koch string Warren along for 5 months going through the entire application process?

It is hilarious that you are criticising Tredrea about declaring interest in a role, yet in the next breath you mention Meares, Chalmers and Djite as alternatives - none whom have declared interest with Koch (although I know Meares was on the shortlist but pretty sure she can't be considered due to her residency in NZ). I fail to see how any of them are more suitable to the role considering you're identifying them due to their sporting prowess along with their connection to the Club.

Koch can talk about governance and transparency all he likes, but the reality is that this has been an autocratic decision led by a dictator hiding to avoid accountability.

Just the way the AFL like it...

 

[Sir Watchalot]

AFL wouldn't tolerate a tinfoil hat wearing anti-vaxxer/ conspiracy theorist on Port's board and Koch and co. deserve congratulations here.

 

[Lockhart Road]

AFL wouldn't tolerate a tinfoil hat wearing anti-vaxxer/ conspiracy theorist on Port's board and Koch and co. deserve congratulations here.

So you, just arrived, come armed with personal priortiies of: 1) AFL then 2) Koch & Co. then, last, 3) PAFC, then last of the last 4) A Premiership

 

[Doctor Feel]

Lol this era sure has been bad with the burner accounts of club employees talking utter nonsense.

 

[malcheski]

I love the misnomer of some on here thinking Tredrea will offer nothing to the board, when the so called professionals and 'experts' in their field have taken us from top 6 in most metrics a board is measured on to the lofty heights of 10th in a decade (membership, revenue, engagement, football program).

So why do accountants and lawyers on our board not have to perform, but our only AFL premiership winning captain is frowned upon because he was an elite sportsperson and didn't attend university for a degree?

 

[Duckimus Prime]

Have had a few conversations with him from time to time. He absolutely gets it, particularly upset with the club referring to supporters as white noise.

This is about the first thing I've seen written in here about Tredrea that couldn't have been a cut and paste from Crows fans discussing Ricciuto getting on their board in 2014.

 

[ibd77]

So why do accountants and lawyers on our board not have to perform, but our only AFL premiership winning captain is frowned upon because he was an elite sportsperson and didn't attend university for a degree?

Everyone knows accountants and lawyers aren't movers or shakers. They are all conservatives which translates to mediocrity. This is ok for an ongoing business requiring stability but it does not evoke a higher sense of purpose or urgency to be the best of the best.

Name me one successful CEO that started their career as a lawyer or accountant? Most have technical backgrounds either in science, engineering, economics or other sectors that involve steep competition and the will to succeed.

 

[TeeKray]

Imagine hiring Ken Hinkley for a billion years and then saying no to Tredders coming aboard, no wonder the club is a cesspool of directionless mediocrity.

 

[backtozero]

If anyone wants to voice their support or chat, Tredders is good at responding on his facebook page.

Have had a few conversations with him from time to time. He absolutely gets it, particularly upset with the club referring to supporters as white noise.

Does he know you talk smack about him on this board?

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[Rendaw]

Tredders would turn our white noise into roaring thunder

 

[Doctor Feel]

Imagine hiring Ken Hinkley for a billion years and then saying no to Tredders coming aboard, no wonder the club is a cesspool of directionless mediocrity.

I said the same thing in the discussion about old mate jordan peterson. You can dislike particular opinions such as anti vaxx, but you can still agree with other things the same person says. There is no need to do any sort of mental gymnastics over it just to be seen not to agree with anything a person says.

Being an anti vaxxer is dumb, but wanting football success and knowing what it takes is right in his wheel house, as is you know, having a spine.

Can you imagine him not showing up to AGMs etc. Like Hinkley because he might be asked some tough shit? Nope.

He would win a board position easily for this alone, his views on vaccination wouldnt even remotely be a factor.