Traded Lachie Weller [traded to Gold Coast]

[peppy la pew]

The top few prospects are now worried they might have to play for Freo


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None are more worried than #1,

 

[rezagun]

I look at this trade as good for both clubs. Freo got a pick they shouldnt have but gold coast got a good young player that wont pack his bags and leave.
Weller has shown enough in his short time at freo to say he will be a very good afl footballer. He will be best 22 every week at gc and will be around family and friends.
Draft picks at the pointy end of the draft must give you a gun player. If you botch it it looks terrible. There is always a risk with victorian draftees wanting home from qld, wa or sa. Gold coast remove that risk, pay overs but get a kid who has been in the system a couple of years and will probably end up playing 200 games.

 

[StCicatriz]

Does anyone else think that, sure by the current context, pick 2 is WAY overs, but if you look historically at who has been taken at pick 2, it kinda makes sense? And marks a shift (with free agency and more player movement than ever before) towards considering draft picks (even high ones) as the speculative/chance strategy they really are?

Spot on. If you look at the pick alone. The trade is utter madness and a shafting. But when you dig into the detail and start to look at each of the factors, it's actually pretty good for GC.

There's a trend now with the absolutely top end picks being head hunted and now leaving. 15 years ago that was unheard of. But now it's becoming more common.

Given all the top end talent is Victorian it makes sense with what GC did.

 

[theGav56]

Does anyone else think that, sure by the current context, pick 2 is WAY overs, but if you look historically at who has been taken at pick 2, it kinda makes sense? And marks a shift (with free agency and more player movement than ever before) towards considering draft picks (even high ones) as the speculative/chance strategy they really are?

I am confident that Weller will play more games for them than their pick 2 would. I am hopeful Fremantle can retain whoever they draft, but think it will not be easy.

 

[Sylvia Saint]

The last few #2 picks, Taranto (solid), Schache (oops), Petracca (should really have been McCartin), Kelly (yeah ok) and O'Rourke (dud).

Kelly and to a lesser extent Petracca hold more currency than Weller but even in Kelly's year there were others in the mix, such as Aish, Scharenberg, Billings. Petracca had McCartin and Brayshaw as his rivals and Weller is equal or better to them. It really is just a lottery after all.

Gold Coast paid overs but I can see the strategy. Weller is young, talented and wants to be there. I think the most important point is the last one in this new NBA/EPL era of nominating clubs after five minutes in the system.

 

[theGav56]

Spot on. If you look at the pick alone. The trade is utter madness and a shafting. But when you dig into the detail and start to look at each of the factors, it's actually pretty good for GC.

There's a trend now with the absolutely top end picks being head hunted and now leaving. 15 years ago that was unheard of. But now it's becoming more common.

Given all the top end talent is Victorian it makes sense with what GC did.

Happy to target their second tier non Victorian players like Martín and Swallow.

 

[StCicatriz]

Happy to target their second tier non Victorian players like Martín and Swallow.

and you should! thats exactly what freo should be doing, and not just gold coasts players but the entire comps!

i think freo's strategy of trying to lure back home talent has been excellent and the trades to date that they have done since employing that strategy, have been very good in that regard.

you cant fault it. they've given up very little to get that talent as well. kept their presence in the draft too.

 

[vide0n]

Happy to target their second tier non Victorian players like Martín and Swallow.

 

[theGav56]

and you should! thats exactly what freo should be doing, and not just gold coasts players but the entire comps!

i think freo's strategy of trying to lure back home talent has been excellent and the trades to date that they have done since employing that strategy, have been very good in that regard.

you cant fault it. they've given up very little to get that talent as well. kept their presence in the draft too.

All clubs want to lure players from other clubs, but Fremantle has been getting it done. We have some terrific foundations in place including an excellent coach, Fyfe as our captain, an emerging young list, a world class training facility and a terrific playing stadium. Critically in the area of list management Lloyd and co have shown that they are prepared to get the job done both for players wanting in as well as those wanting out.

Not only that but the drafting has been terrific.

 

[Spirit Level]

The top few prospects are now worried they might have to play for Freo


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Yeah because players are just lining up to play for ****ing brisbane

 

[Clems Knee]

All clubs want to lure players from other clubs, but Fremantle has been getting it done. We have some terrific foundations in place including an excellent coach, Fyfe as our captain, an emerging young list, a world class training facility and a terrific playing stadium. Critically in the area of list management Lloyd and co have shown that they are prepared to get the job done both for players wanting in as well as those wanting out.

Not only that but the drafting has been terrific.

All we have to do is start winning games.

 

[mightymouse75]

Would be nice to at least win a Derby next year, and several games

 

[eagle eyed]

Would be nice to at least win a Derby next year, and several games

Lol! The several wins ranks second to beating West Coast? I'd rather win the flag and lose twice to Cockburn.


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[mike91]

Lol! The several wins ranks second to beating West Coast? I'd rather win the flag and lose twice to Cockburn.

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Surely you can come up with better than that? I mean, you've already edited your post. Two attempts and that's your best shot?

 

[Vintage]

I actually think the Weller trade is a win for both clubs tbh, though we did do very well out of it.

And I reckon we gave too much for matera, would have rather given something from this year.

 

[meima]

I actually think the Weller trade is a win for both clubs tbh, though we did do very well out of it.

And I reckon we gave too much for matera, would have rather given something from this year.

We don't had much to give this year for Matera, Weller deal involve pick 41 going to GC way.
The rest of the pick 42,60,66.

 

[Vintage]

We don't had much to give this year for Matera, Weller deal involve pick 41 going to GC way.
The rest of the pick 42,60,66.

Pick 60 would have been great. But pick 42 is about what our 2018 3rd will be - next year we now only have round 1 and 5 picks.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Pick 60 would have been great. But pick 42 is about what our 2018 3rd will be - next year we now only have round 1 and 5 picks.

You have to draft 3 players, so you can add another pick at around the 90's mark.

Based on this years finish it would be 5, 77 and 93. An interesting strategy.

 

[eagle eyed]

Surely you can come up with better than that? I mean, you've already edited your post. Two attempts and that's your best shot?

Fair enough. I edited my spelling mistakes, fat fingers. You have to admit it's a pretty small minded attitude though.


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[meima]

You have to draft 3 players, so you can add another pick at around the 90's mark.

Based on this years finish it would be 5, 77 and 93. An interesting strategy.

I think Freo will do two live pick and move one rookie in . The rest rookie list player.

1) first round pick
2) Academy player
3) -

 

[Snake_Baker]

I think Freo will do two live pick and move one rookie in . The rest rookie list player.

1) first round pick
2) Academy player
3) -

Is there a chance anyone will bid on one of these academy players?

 

[Cobbler]

You have to draft 3 players, so you can add another pick at around the 90's mark.

Based on this years finish it would be 5, 77 and 93. An interesting strategy.

Yeah I was concerned by this too, but it's not overly hard to get draft picks.

If no one wants out of Freo we could always downgrade our first for a couple of lower picks. Yeah yeah super draft.

In that case we blow our 2019 first for a 2018 2nd and 3rd rounder.

I was initially all about 21, 24, 26 and Matera for Weller but pick 2 is an outstanding result.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Yeah I was concerned by this too, but it's not overly hard to get draft picks.

If no one wants out of Freo we could always downgrade our first for a couple of lower picks. Yeah yeah super draft.

In that case we blow our 2019 first for a 2018 2nd and 3rd rounder.

I was initially all about 21, 24, 26 and Matera for Weller but pick 2 is an outstanding result.

This drafting strategy sits in line with Ross Lyons modus operandi.

Elite talent complimented and isolated by solid defensive foot soldiers.

 

[Cobbler]

This drafting strategy sits in line with Ross Lyons modus operandi.

Elite talent complimented and isolated by solid defensive foot soldiers.

I think the deal was also done because of our 2016 trade and draft period success.

We picked up Logue, Cox, Darcy and Ryan. Logue pick 7 the rest very low picks. All have a decent future. Add McCarthy, Hill, Hamling and to a lesser extent Kersten.

All 8 can be best 22 but let's just say only 5-6 of them are. That's still very good.

We're looking for some cream now.

 

[Silky32]

Fair enough. I edited my spelling mistakes, fat fingers. You have to admit it's a pretty small minded attitude though.


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I agree, but I recall you lot doing the same thing in the off-season after conceding a string of derbies.

This constant dribble about which supporter base is more obsessed with the other is pointless. We're all passionate and obsessed with this game. Call it a nil- all draw and move on.

Although you do seem intent on running with your Cockburn line ad-nauseam. May be time to pay the troll-toll, Nightman...