Leigh Matthews on Tom Boyd and the Bulldogs

[Doggies_13]

Just posting facts deal with it.

Facts are McGovern was always playing as a KPD whether Brown went down or not he started there thats a fact maybe watch the game before commenting rather than embarrassing yourself for a lack of knowledge

 

[Falchoon]

If you're going to troll Dogs fans go with something better as Brown as West Coast's best defender. Obviously McKenzie is out, but even still McGovern, Hurn and Yeo are better defenders.

Hurn, whilst being a solid unit is more of the Michael Firrito school of key defending, he's shorter than Chris Judd, Yeo is not much taller. Key defensive posts they are not.

 

[Farang83150]

Bontempelli, he'll get snavled by one of the rich clubs no doubt about that.

 

[BallaratBulldog]

Bontempelli, he'll get snavled by one of the rich clubs no doubt about that.

Hes already been extended. Dalh, Rough ,Stringer and Macrea done, they are running out of options to pouch.

 

[Farang83150]

Hes already been extended. Dalh, Rough ,Stringer and Macrea done, they are running out of options to pouch.

Well done the Dogs.

 

[The_Flying_Egg]

Bontempelli, he'll get snavled by one of the rich clubs no doubt about that.

I'm very confident by the end of next season he will extend again

 

[Farang83150]

I'm very confident by the end of next season he will extend again

That's never a given, to many variables.

 

[Adam H]

Facts are McGovern was always playing as a KPD whether Brown went down or not he started there thats a fact maybe watch the game before commenting rather than embarrassing yourself for a lack of knowledge

So Schofield, McKenzie and Brown all were missing.

 

[Doggies_13]

He's there best tall now isn't he with McKenzie out. Never ideal to lose a key post in the first quarter. McGovern would have been the differance forward with Darling out.tomorrow morning

This was your Post

Brown getting injured had not the slightest bit of influence on where McGovern played he was playing back all game whether Brown got injured or not.

You can say what if this player was there and that player was there at the end of the day you beat who you play next you will be saying if Cox or Glass hadn't retired.
Your also forgetting that the dogs were without one of the best inside mids in the competition also love the fact you've taken half a day to think of a reply.

Dumb statements and your are not in anyway making statements more intelligent as you continue, maybe you should stop before you show even less intelligence.

 

[master bate]

Brown was MacKenzie's replacement - FACT.

How you can suggest Hurn and Yeo are viable KPD options is hilarious.

Both will probably be asked to play tall but they're not KPDs, Brown is.

Adam H said only 'best defender'. Never mentioned KP. Either way, McGovern plays back. Brown was a loss. Any team losses a key defender and they are vulnerable. 3rd tall has to play as the key position player. Then a medium sized player has to take on a 3rd tall and so on.

I just don't think the game was really close enough or played in a style that Brown's injury was the difference in the game. Nor do I think he's your best defender or best tall defender. That was my point.

It's not very gracious to blame a loss on an injury to a mid level player, even if he's structurally important. It's worse for a rival fan to come in and say that and also pump up that player.

 

[Adam H]

This was your Post

Brown getting injured had not the slightest bit of influence on where McGovern played he was playing back all game whether Brown got injured or not.

You can say what if this player was there and that player was there at the end of the day you beat who you play next you will be saying if Cox or Glass hadn't retired.
Your also forgetting that the dogs were without one of the best inside mids in the competition also love the fact you've taken half a day to think of a reply.

Dumb statements and your are not in anyway making statements more intelligent as you continue, maybe you should stop before you show even less intelligence.

Go attack your supporter that posted that if you kicked straight you would have won by ten goals. To put it simply the WC were without there 2 starting key defenders and to make it worse they lost the third one that started on Stringer before quarter time. McGovern was forced to play back and they were also missing there gun key forward in Darling.

 

[Doggies_13]

Go attack your supporter that posted that if you kicked straight you would have won by ten goals. To put it simply the WC were without there 2 starting key defenders and to make it worse they lost the third one that started on Stringer before quarter time. McGovern was forced to play back and they were also missing there gun key forward in Darling.

Schofield is not their second KPD he is more their third tall defender. McGovern WAS always playing back from 1st minute of the game did you even watch it???

Saying if this or that player played is not fact it's what if, saying we had 27 shots to 17 is a fact! West Coast kicked incredibly straight.

Looking at the average most teams kicked at in round 1 was around 50-50 between goals and behinds West Coast kicked at 82.35% conversion rate, the next best were Crows and Dons at 60% West Coast goal kicking conversion is the only thing that kept them in it had they kicked at the average conversion rate they would have lost by 5 goals plus that is a fact with statistics not a what if.

May be wrong but talk before the game was Schofield was available but needed a week in the Wafl, but if you want to go on what if's then West Coast was missing Darling Schofield and Mckenzie, Dogs were without Libba Hunter Biggs Hrovat.

If you want an intelligent discussion then have one but your being a troll or maybe it's just you are not capable of an intelligent conversation

 

[Adam H]

Schofield is not their second KPD he is more their third tall defender. McGovern WAS always playing back from 1st minute of the game did you even watch it???

Saying if this or that player played is not fact it's what if, saying we had 27 shots to 17 is a fact! West Coast kicked incredibly straight.

Looking at the average most teams kicked at in round 1 was around 50-50 between goals and behinds West Coast kicked at 82.35% conversion rate, the next best were Crows and Dons at 60% West Coast goal kicking conversion is the only thing that kept them in it had they kicked at the average conversion rate they would have lost by 5 goals plus that is a fact with statistics not a what if.

May be wrong but talk before the game was Schofield was available but needed a week in the Wafl, but if you want to go on what if's then West Coast was missing Darling Schofield and Mckenzie, Dogs were without Libba Hunter Biggs Hrovat.

If you want an intelligent discussion then have one but your being a troll or maybe it's just you are not capable of an intelligent conversation

Why did McGovern start back, think about it.

Who went to Stringer after Brown went down?

Hrovat Biggs???? and Hunter were all available.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Bontempelli, he'll get snavled by one of the rich clubs no doubt about that.

Is that a fact?

We only deal with facts here...

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Go attack your supporter that posted that if you kicked straight you would have won by ten goals. To put it simply the WC were without there 2 starting key defenders and to make it worse they lost the third one that started on Stringer before quarter time. McGovern was forced to play back and they were also missing there gun key forward in Darling.

Why do you care?

...you are a Saints "supporter", aren't you?

 

[Adam H]

Why do you care?

...you are a Saints "supporter", aren't you?

I commented on a post and have been attacked. If that's your supporters response to anything that isnt painted in a positive light so be it. Like I said I am sure I have got the football covered.

 

[Doggies_13]

Why did McGovern start back, think about it.

Who went to Stringer after Brown went down?

Hrovat Biggs???? and Hunter were all available.

Hrovat was the same as Schofield not ready needed a reserves game,
Biggs is injured Hunter is suspended so no not all available shows your lack of knowledge.

If Mckenzie was available it was probably between Brown and McGovern who plays as he second KPD as he played back there late last season.

Not McGovern he spent most of the night on Redpath Zoning off to help Boyd's opponent.

Must be a pretty boring life to spend time making excuses for opposition teams loses or is it just when teams play the dogs as the talent on our list you couldn't even dream of having.

You either know nothing about football or your a troll or you have some problem in intelligence so should and will end this discussion now.

Don't understand people on these sites that state opinion as fact and are blind to their opinion only can't comprehend any information from other people. The whole point of a site like this is to see and discuss multiple sides of issues and arguements.

 

[The_Flying_Egg]

That's never a given, to many variables.

But its a given he'll leave for a rich club? No variables there?

 

[Farang83150]

But its a given he'll leave for a rich club? No variables there?

Yes there's certainly variables there as well but if he gets offered a shed load he'd be silly not to take it and secure his future.

 

[GetDimmaBack]

Yes there's certainly variables there as well but if he gets offered a shed load he'd be silly not to take it and secure his future.

As would any player on any list. Including WCE.

What's your point?

 

[Scotland]

Not sure why everyone is suddenly discussing West Coast, but with a full compliment of players we would have Mackenzie at CHB and Brown at FB. McGovern would play as a third tall in a similar role to how Darren Glass played his last couple of seasons, pushing forward when we need him to.

Alas, we don't have a full compliment of players so McGovern will now play FB/CHB taking the opposition's best key forward, Schofield when he comes back will probably do likewise taking the second best forward and ideally we'll be able to keep Hurn loose in defence to help out.

 

[Bulldog1954]

Yes there's certainly variables there as well but if he gets offered a shed load he'd be silly not to take it and secure his future.

Same can be said for every player in the league?

 

[_Mike_]

Same can be said for every player in the league?

Buddy and Kurt say hi...

 

[Underdog]

It's not very gracious to blame a loss on an injury to a mid level player, even if he's structurally important. It's worse for a rival fan to come in and say that and also pump up that player.

I did no such thing. I'm just pointing out errors in logic and/or truth.

 

[Farang83150]

Same can be said for every player in the league?

That's right.