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Soldo was also acquired as part of the trade. Important detail omitted.
This is the same Soldo who St Kilda refused to give up more than a future 4th rounder for, right? That's his value. You and I have different definitions of 'important'.
 
Soldo was also acquired as part of the trade. Important detail omitted.
Yep but we gave up more than just the first no?

The reality is we should never have given up a future first for either of those blokes and if we'd finished 12th right now it would look like the worst trade ever.
 

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This is the same Soldo who St Kilda refused to give up more than a future 4th rounder for, right? That's his value. You and I have different definitions of 'important'.
Value is not defined by the now in this case, but was defined by the then, without the benefit of the hindsight you continue to draw upon like you are some sort of oracle.
 
Yep but we gave up more than just the first no?

The reality is we should never have given up a future first for either of those blokes and if we'd finished 12th right now it would look like the worst trade ever.

I don’t know full details. I think we split 2024 R1 for two picks held by Freo in the 2023 R2.

Hindsight is always a wonderful thing. We aren’t even yet in a position to judge the merits of the trade as the player drafted with the pick given up is an unknown. We might also get something back for Soldo (seems unlikely).
 
Value is not defined by the now in this case, but was defined by the then, without the benefit of the hindsight you continue to draw upon like you are some sort of oracle.
Pretty cool how I managed to draw on the benefit of hindsight by hating the deal before the last 12 months even happened isn't it?

Here's what's happened here. Port traded a first round pick for two average depth players. The majority immediately hated it. You said to give it time. We did, and it turned out even worse than we thought it would when we hated it 12 months ago. You're now claiming that the deal only looks bad 'with the benefit of hindsight', because apparently you don't know what the word hindsight means.
 
I don’t know full details. I think we split 2024 R1 for two picks held by Freo in the 2023 R2.

Hindsight is always a wonderful thing. We aren’t even yet in a position to judge the merits of the trade as the player drafted with the pick given up is an unknown. We might also get something back for Soldo (seems unlikely).
Im not talking about hindsight, Im saying ignore his season entirely and focus on the trade. This is what everyone was saying then and Id stand by it even if he won our b&f.
 
Pretty cool how I managed to draw on the benefit of hindsight by hating the deal before the last 12 months even happened isn't it?

Here's what's happened here. Port traded a first round pick for two average depth players. The majority immediately hated it. You said to give it time. We did, and it turned out even worse than we thought it would when we hated it 12 months ago. You're now claiming that the deal only looks bad 'with the benefit of hindsight', because apparently you don't know what the word hindsight means.
Agree with most of this post, but couldnt disagree more with this.

If we'd finished 15th rather than 2nd it would have sacrificed a top 5 pick for them.

We literally ended up in the best possible timeline for judging the trade yet it still looks like shit.
 
Agree with most of this post, but couldnt disagree more with this.

If we'd finished 15th rather than 2nd it would have sacrificed a top 5 pick for them.

We literally ended up in the best possible timeline for judging the trade yet it still looks like shit.
I mean in terms of the players we brought in. I legitimately thought Soldo and Ratugolea would be best 22 for us all year. And I still hated it. That's how bad a deal it was.
 
RORY ATKINS?
 

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