List Mgmt. List Management 2024-25

[jackag24]

Which will be the 15th best kid.

Including Father Son and Academy prospects.. Yes, whom we don't have access to anyway

 

[PortVic]

Which will be the 15th best kid.

But we were never going to get access to Ashcroft or Kako eg. So there bids pushing our number pick back means nothing

 

[port_adelaide_1870]

Including Father Son and Academy prospects.. Yes, whom we don't have access to anyway

Doesn’t change the fact that pick 13 will be pick 15 and 29 will be 35

 

[jackag24]

Doesn’t change the fact that pick 13 will be pick 15 and 29 will be 35

Okay.. who do we take at pick 15 and 35

 

[Brian McGee]

Including Father Son and Academy prospects.. Yes, whom we don't have access to anyway

It makes a difference to me when we trade out a player who is in the top 22 in the afl, as in the all Australian team, to get the 15th rated kid in the country.
And what if we want to trade either up or down on draft night? Does the difference in points between 13 and 15 matter? Of course it does. It is objectively worth less because of the value that the afl have placed on it.

 

[dirty2]

And yet people are talking about it all day. They have sponsors, viewers/listeners - it doesn't matter that it's 99% bullshit in the first week, people are tuning in.

It has nothing to do with the time needed to get deals done.

But are they? Most people I know think it's a big wank fest and are sick of it.

 

[Waspy79]

Ratugolea didn't have an awful season at all playing quite a few different roles. If we'd picked him up for pick 48 (which is probably around what we should have paid) and people viewed him as a project big guy which he is, he'd probably be looked at pretty favourably.

He has the curse of always being linked to a first rounder because that's what we gave up for no reason in order to acquire him.

Soldo was also acquired as part of the trade. Important detail omitted.

 

[Ford Fairlane]

But are they? Most people I know think it's a big wank fest and are sick of it.

Then they must be listening to it

 

[Addy23]

So.. who do we take at 13, 29 ?

Or do we try and on-trade for better picks?

If Hotton is there at 13 then we take him, if not I'd like us to split we Sydney for 19 and 22

 

[Schulzenfest]

Soldo was also acquired as part of the trade. Important detail omitted.

This is the same Soldo who St Kilda refused to give up more than a future 4th rounder for, right? That's his value. You and I have different definitions of 'important'.

 

[Buget]

Sal dump for GC?

Barely a salary dump. Reported to be on only $400k next season, that’s less than the AFL average.

It’s probably more lost spots.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Soldo was also acquired as part of the trade. Important detail omitted.

Yep but we gave up more than just the first no?

The reality is we should never have given up a future first for either of those blokes and if we'd finished 12th right now it would look like the worst trade ever.

 

[Waspy79]

This is the same Soldo who St Kilda refused to give up more than a future 4th rounder for, right? That's his value. You and I have different definitions of 'important'.

Value is not defined by the now in this case, but was defined by the then, without the benefit of the hindsight you continue to draw upon like you are some sort of oracle.

 

[Waspy79]

Yep but we gave up more than just the first no?

The reality is we should never have given up a future first for either of those blokes and if we'd finished 12th right now it would look like the worst trade ever.

I don’t know full details. I think we split 2024 R1 for two picks held by Freo in the 2023 R2.

Hindsight is always a wonderful thing. We aren’t even yet in a position to judge the merits of the trade as the player drafted with the pick given up is an unknown. We might also get something back for Soldo (seems unlikely).

 

[rumoursofwinter]

After trading in three players and traded out one player we will have moved on a net of zero players from the list. The numbers are looking strange. Can we delist the rat after trading for him?

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Or put it this way, if we picked up Richards and another player like that, under no circumstances should we give up a future first to make that happen.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Value is not defined by the now in this case, but was defined by the then, without the benefit of the hindsight you continue to draw upon like you are some sort of oracle.

Pretty cool how I managed to draw on the benefit of hindsight by hating the deal before the last 12 months even happened isn't it?

Here's what's happened here. Port traded a first round pick for two average depth players. The majority immediately hated it. You said to give it time. We did, and it turned out even worse than we thought it would when we hated it 12 months ago. You're now claiming that the deal only looks bad 'with the benefit of hindsight', because apparently you don't know what the word hindsight means.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I don’t know full details. I think we split 2024 R1 for two picks held by Freo in the 2023 R2.

Hindsight is always a wonderful thing. We aren’t even yet in a position to judge the merits of the trade as the player drafted with the pick given up is an unknown. We might also get something back for Soldo (seems unlikely).

Im not talking about hindsight, Im saying ignore his season entirely and focus on the trade. This is what everyone was saying then and Id stand by it even if he won our b&f.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

Pretty cool how I managed to draw on the benefit of hindsight by hating the deal before the last 12 months even happened isn't it?

Here's what's happened here. Port traded a first round pick for two average depth players. The majority immediately hated it. You said to give it time. We did, and it turned out even worse than we thought it would when we hated it 12 months ago. You're now claiming that the deal only looks bad 'with the benefit of hindsight', because apparently you don't know what the word hindsight means.

Agree with most of this post, but couldnt disagree more with this.

If we'd finished 15th rather than 2nd it would have sacrificed a top 5 pick for them.

We literally ended up in the best possible timeline for judging the trade yet it still looks like shit.

 

[Schulzenfest]

Agree with most of this post, but couldnt disagree more with this.

If we'd finished 15th rather than 2nd it would have sacrificed a top 5 pick for them.

We literally ended up in the best possible timeline for judging the trade yet it still looks like shit.

I mean in terms of the players we brought in. I legitimately thought Soldo and Ratugolea would be best 22 for us all year. And I still hated it. That's how bad a deal it was.

 

[Lightning_Rod]

What a roller coaster.

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[EskimoPAFC]

RORY ATKINS

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Rory Atkins

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30

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185cm

Wt

82kg

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Career

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Last 5

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19.9

5star

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12.1

4star

HB

7.9

5star

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4.6

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1.9

4star

MG

367.4

5star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.0

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

0.3

1star

T

2.7

4star

MG

147.7

3star

D

14.2

4star

K

8.8

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

4.0

4star

T

1.2

3star

MG

217.8

4star

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[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

In other news - Carlton have secured pick 3 from WCE

 

[Wargreymon90]

In other news - Carlton have secured pick 3 from WCE

That is a shocking trade by west coast

 

[TazD]

In other news - Carlton have secured pick 3 from WCE

WCE are mental.