List Mgmt. List Management Discussion for 2022

[HawthornHawk]

If we happen to find ourselves in the position to pick up one of Tsatas or Wardlaw, and we know Sic wants to act on his FA rights, would the club be happy to not match a FA bid and get a pick that would allow us to get both players?

If it got to that stage- we'd threaten to match the bid unless the contract was structured in such a way that would get us band 1 compo

 

[Dewnior]

If it got to that stage- we'd threaten to match the bid unless the contract was structured in such a way that would get us band 1 compo

Of course, that's a given

 

[Dragz]

We need a mid with ball getting, burst ability and great kicking skills.

Someone that can get it 24 times or more a match and be damaging.

Can’t carry JOM, TOM and Worps.
One of those has to go (unfortunately)


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[Bugs1977]

Of course, that's a given

To answer your original question about working the system to get band 1 compo I assume that you think getting Tsatas or Wardlaw will require a top 3 pick? If so and say we finish 5 last would you be willing to give up pick 5 + pick 6 (Sicily compo) for either one? At this stage without seeing how they play this season against better competition I’d be reluctant to do that.

If for whatever reason the powers that be didn’t want to pay Sicily and knew another team would that could get us band 1 compo I would much rather take picks 5 + 6 to the draft and back in McKenzie on snagging 2 x more top kids. However, if McKenzie thought one of Tsatas or Wardlaw was worth that haul (picks 5 + 6) I’d back him on that too because he’s earned that trust.

The other option in the above scenario is to just re-sign Sicily… make him captain and take pick 5 to the draft. It’s important to keep in mind that once BB + Shiels retire and in the likely event one of Mitchell or JOM is traded we are going to likely have the youngest list in the league. The last thing we want to do is end up like Melbourne did when they made Jack Trengove co-captain at 21-22 years of age. That team at that stage of their rebuild had so many high end picks with absolutely no leadership whatsoever. It’s a slippery slope to tread.

 

[nelk boys]

We need a mid with ball getting, burst ability and great kicking skills.

Someone that can get it 24 times or more a match and be damaging.

Can’t carry JOM, TOM and Worps.
One of those has to go (unfortunately)


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Genuinely think if we drafted Wardlaw and Tsatas, our midfield would be transformed.

If we had pick 2 or 3 and we still had sic, would be best if we let him walk I think.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

It may all depend on what happens at the mid season draft.

If a WAFL/SANFL mid jumps up before June and subsequently falls in our lap, and Junior Lawrence continues to look like a prospect for the draft, I think we might lock Sicily away.

 

[Bugs1977]

It may all depend on what happens at the mid season draft.

If a WAFL/SANFL mid jumps up before June and subsequently falls in our lap, and Junior Lawrence continues to look like a prospect for the draft, I think we might lock Sicily away.

Like I said about 10 posts ago there’s a lot of water to go under the bridge in assessing players and what not.

Surely you’d think McKenzie and co would have a fair idea by now if Sicily wanted to stay or go. If not then it really makes the whole situation very hard to manage. I would hope that we really learnt from the whole Buddy dilemma.

 

[The hands of stone]

One of the fellas at my local footy club knows Sis pretty well , apparently has no intention of leaving. That was a week or so ago.

 

[nelk boys]

One of the fellas at my local footy club knows Sis pretty well , apparently has no intention of leaving. That was a week or so ago.

Kelior?

 

[theiaofseed]

English stepping up big time this year would have thrown a spanner into the dogs list management, have Daniel, Dunkley and Smith to retain as well plus a couple fringe players like Dale, McLean.

Can the keep all 4?

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Smith and/or Dale would be nice. Smith especially, obviously.

 

[Hawk1986]

I would be happy to offer big money to De Goey. Everything we are lacking being a forward center midfielder and has 5+ years left. Length of contract would be my only question. Him for free plus another top 10 pick would continue the rebuild nicely IMHO.

 

[Jake_09]

I would be happy to offer big money to De Goey. Everything we are lacking being a forward center midfielder and has 5+ years left. Length of contract would be my only question. Him for free plus another top 10 pick would continue the rebuild nicely IMHO.

He’s an absolutely putrid human. Not the type of person we need coming through with our young squad.

 

[Jake_09]

It’s a real shame we weren’t able to bring in an extra 1st or 2nd rounder for this years draft, through last years trade period…obviously it wasn’t through lack of trying.

 

[Bugs1977]

I would be happy to offer big money to De Goey. Everything we are lacking being a forward center midfielder and has 5+ years left. Length of contract would be my only question. Him for free plus another top 10 pick would continue the rebuild nicely IMHO.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

I would be happy to offer big money to De Goey. Everything we are lacking being a forward center midfielder and has 5+ years left. Length of contract would be my only question. Him for free plus another top 10 pick would continue the rebuild nicely IMHO.

I've been shot down for suggesting such things so be careful, some people on here are adverse to talent.

 

[WWSD]

I’d look at Jade Gresham

11

Jade Gresham

Age

27

Ht

177cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.4

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

7.2

4star

M

3.2

3star

T

2.7

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

17.5

4star

K

10.8

4star

HB

6.8

4star

M

2.1

2star

T

2.0

3star

G

0.5

4star

D

11.8

3star

K

6.0

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

2.6

3star

T

3.4

5star

G

0.4

3star

and Charlie Curnow

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Charlie Curnow

Age

27

Ht

194cm

Wt

94kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.3

3star

K

9.7

4star

HB

3.6

3star

M

5.3

5star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.3

5star

No current season stats available

D

10.8

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.4

4star

M

3.2

4star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.8

4star

as free agents next year. We’re going to have to spend that cap space eventually.

 

[rei154]

I've been shot down for suggesting such things so be careful, some people on here are adverse to talent.

think of it like stat bars:
De Goey might be +10 for talent, but he's -20 for culture.
Talent doesn't outweigh the hit to culture.

 

[HODGEYROAD]

think of it like stat bars:
De Goey might be +10 for talent, but he's -20 for culture.
Talent doesn't outweigh the hit to culture.

Better than Patton

0 for talent
-30 for culture

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

I've been shot down for suggesting such things so be careful, some people on here are adverse to talent.

Yeah, you choose some weird hills to die on.

Like that Swans player that beat up his girlfriend, you were all for taking him in too.

 

[Billyc]

I've been shot down for suggesting such things so be careful, some people on here are adverse to talent.

Intentionally dense post.

 

[Bugs1977]

I've been shot down for suggesting such things so be careful, some people on here are adverse to talent.

The HFC has enough mud slung at it at the moment without having DeGoey drag us down further. Although talented I wouldn’t want us to pay the kind of money it would take him to leave anyways.

 

[wahawk]

Have to wonder wether the reason for him not putting his name in the MSD is so he could showcase himself to us first. It's either that or end up at North

he is an overager(he is close to 19 and potentially available in MSD?) playing for Oakleigh, a Ryan Schoenmakers type forward i think at 196cm, could be good for squad depth?

He’s not eligible for mid season draft as you have to have nominated for the most recent national draft or have been on a club list previously

 

[HODGEYROAD]

Yeah, you choose some weird hills to die on.

Like that Swans player that beat up his girlfriend, you were all for taking him in too.

De Goey is ****ing class. Would be the best footballer at Hawthorn.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

De Goey is ******* class. Would be the best footballer at Hawthorn.

He’s also the most likely to end up in Barwon.