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Look into the future: CYRIL vs VARCOE!
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Varcoe could be a top 10 afl player. Rioli has the potential to be the best
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Cyril is magic, but with magic it is inconsistent. Would not be able to string up more than 5 good matches.
Varcoe has been good in a dominating team so it is hard to tell if the other players are sugar coating him or his actually this good.
Varcoe has been good in a dominating team so it is hard to tell if the other players are sugar coating him or his actually this good.
People are incorrectly dubbing Varcoe as just a defensive forward. This is the role he has been required to play by the club. Same as Ablett jnr was earlier in his career. When freed of his tackling responsibilities Ablett became the best player in the comp. If Varcoe was given more game time on the ball I think he would become a Judd or Goodes type player.
Geelong also have Trav's younger brother Adam in the squad. Early signs are that he has very freaky skills. Look forward to seeing them both in the team next year.
Geelong also have Trav's younger brother Adam in the squad. Early signs are that he has very freaky skills. Look forward to seeing them both in the team next year.
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Your fellow Geelong supporter knows the concept of future well though.
Rioli a poor kick.
This post^^^^^ pretty much reflects the total fail that this thread is.
For the record Varcoe is killing it this season and has for the first time justified his position in the number one team in the comp GFC. He is a potential champ.
However Rioli is the best player under 23 in the game and to compare the two is really pulling your own pants down in public putting a red nose on and running round in circles while throwing water in your own face.
The arrogance and stupidity of some Geelong fans is quite breath taking.
Got a point there, pal?
No he isn't, no way.
it is a future analysers/opinion thread, obviously cyril is better right now
maybe take a long hard look at yourself
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ROFL, i nearly fell off my seat i was laughing so hard!! Quote of the season! Well done champ!IF both were in a draft tomorrow, i am fairly sure ALL 16 clubs would take Cyril. /END OF THREAD!
Selwood is under 23 and is clearly a better player than Rioli. The arrogance and stupidity of some Hawforn fans is quite breath taking.
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As does the love fest that Geelong supporters and umpires have for Selwood.
If you do not think that Cyril will not end up as the best player in the comp you are simply not paying attention.
Agreed.
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So if you do think Cyril won't end up as the best player in the comp you are paying attention???
Just because Rioli is better, doesn't mean Varcoe isn't damn good.
Player comparisons, especially when comparing two players in different classes, is pretty stupid cause you get comments like "Rioli is a poor kick" which is absolutely ridiculous, just in order to put a player favourably against another.
Player comparisons, especially when comparing two players in different classes, is pretty stupid cause you get comments like "Rioli is a poor kick" which is absolutely ridiculous, just in order to put a player favourably against another.
Yeah, that was a silly statement. I think perhaps that Cyril's kicking is less consistent than Varcoe's, but can be very damaging when the radar is on. Trav's kicking has been machine like in its precision lately. Excepting that shank in the last quarter against Carlton
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Even though it's already been said 3 or 4 times, I thought I'd just reinforce that a 22 yr old Joel Selwood disputes your claim.
And once more, most Hawthorn supporters have reacted as if the title of this thread was: "Travis Varcoe BETTER than Rioli right now!!!!'"
Well it's quite obvious that's not true. Rioli is ahead of Trav, hence the whole "discussion of what MAY happen in the FUTURE!"
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So was Ablett
Cyril has been 10 x the player Varcoe in previous years. Pretty similar form this year IMO though Varcoe has done it in a good team.
Both are excellent in providing defensive pressure, both are very good at delivering inside 50. Varcoe is maybe a little more run and carry while Rioli a little better in contested situations but I don't think a lot separates them at the moment.
Of course i'm biased as a Geelong fan.
Both are excellent in providing defensive pressure, both are very good at delivering inside 50. Varcoe is maybe a little more run and carry while Rioli a little better in contested situations but I don't think a lot separates them at the moment.
Of course i'm biased as a Geelong fan.
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Great topic..nothing like firing up the old Geelong/Hawthorn hatred, just in time for the finals
I think the biggest unknown with all of this, is with Varcoe.
Will he continue improving? I think we can all see that Rioli will be an out an out gun. Varcoe could be anything, we just never know. Some have said, the reason for his improvement could obviously lie with the sterling help of such an awesome midfield, what happens when they go?
As far as physically, I think Rioli is certainly more likely to be injured a little more ..
Thus in conclusion, and if u had to put $ on it, Rioli.
I think the biggest unknown with all of this, is with Varcoe.
Will he continue improving? I think we can all see that Rioli will be an out an out gun. Varcoe could be anything, we just never know. Some have said, the reason for his improvement could obviously lie with the sterling help of such an awesome midfield, what happens when they go?
As far as physically, I think Rioli is certainly more likely to be injured a little more ..
Thus in conclusion, and if u had to put $ on it, Rioli.
LOL @ this Bay 13 Hawks vs Cats bitchslap flight. There do seem to be a lot of posters comparing the two - they just all happen to be Cats supporters. Varcoe is definitely a gun outside player with a decent boot on him. Rioli is superior in the following areas:
-tackling
- hitting targets
- getting out of traffic/avoiding tackles
- winning one on one contests
- marking overhead/in general
- kicking at goal
- handball.
Other than that, fair comparison.
-tackling
- hitting targets
- getting out of traffic/avoiding tackles
- winning one on one contests
- marking overhead/in general
- kicking at goal
- handball.
Other than that, fair comparison.
Varcoe is a far better kick than Rioli, especially around goal.
I don't know how anyone can even question this, I am not the biggest Varcoe fan going around but surely this is just given.
I don't know how anyone can even question this, I am not the biggest Varcoe fan going around but surely this is just given.
As much as I respect your opinion, I can't imagine how you came to it....
Varcoe has a longer boot, and generally his kicks are more direct. But if you're talking about being dangerous around goal, few players can match Cyril's potency. He's like Stevie J on a good day, except without needing it to be a good day.
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