Traded Matt Owies - West Coast's newest forward

[Foxman98]

Can someone at Carlton teach us what to do hear to turn Caleb Daniel

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Caleb Daniel

Age

28

Ht

171cm

Wt

72kg

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M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

21.3

5star

K

11.5

4star

HB

9.8

5star

M

3.5

4star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

19.5

4star

K

11.1

4star

HB

8.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

2.0

3star

CL

1.0

3star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.2

3star

HB

9.2

5star

M

3.4

4star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.2

2star

into pick 2?

 

[Danog]

Reverse psychology ploy to make Carlton the new Essendon in terms of winning trade week over actual games of football.

 

[Citizen Erazed]

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Exactly. Those days are now over

 

[CCurnow3votes]

I’d laugh if I wasn’t crying

Don’t worry, you’ll come to appreciate what he brings - over 3 years it seems.

Happy for Matt.

Hopefully not for $800k / year

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Reverse psychology ploy to make Carlton the new Essendon in terms of winning trade week over actual games of football.

Yeah Nah.

If we were interested in that - Houston would now be a Blue.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

This is the funniest trade ever Owies who the Eagles could have gotten for nothing

 

[Giant Strides]

Carlton have turned shit into champagne with this deal!

 

[Delisted]

LOL

 

[Chief]

Don’t worry, you’ll come to appreciate what he brings - over 3 years it seems.

Happy for Matt.

Hopefully not for $800k / year

Yeah he will do fine at the Eagles. 30+ goals would have been their number 2 goal scorer this year.

 

[TENACIOUS]

Owies is much more than just a DFA.

He’s a hard worker, that will give you 100% and takes his opportunities in front of goals, kicked over 60 goals combined over the last 2 years.

Good luck Matt and thanks for the memories!

 

[Philhawk]

Can I confirm, did WC value pick 3 as worth a guy deemed below average for most stats in 2024 and pick 12?

 

[Chief]

Can I confirm, did WC value pick 3 as worth a guy deemed below average for most stats in 2024 and pick 12?

33 goals would have been their number 2 goal scorer this year.

 

[CCurnow3votes]

Can I confirm, did WC value pick 3 as worth a guy deemed below average for most stats in 2024 and pick 12?

Chill - you’re about to pay massive overs for a broken down 30 YO Hackman…

Look inward.

 

[Moist Biscuit]

Owies is much more than just a DFA.

He’s a hard worker, that will give you 100% and takes his opportunities in front of goals, kicked over 60 goals combined over the last 2 years.

Good luck Matt and thanks for the memories!

Build the man a statue

 

[Philhawk]

33 goals would have been their number 2 goal scorer this year.

Thats fair, but this is damning.



It’s not as if he’s a high pressure forward as well, with below average tackling stats.

With the lack of entries expected into the Eagles F50, I think he’s really going to struggle.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Made it up or was it fed to him by Carlton? It seems strange that no Carlton fans are concerned at losing him when he was your 3rd best forward? The cap squeeze must be big at Carlton.

Where are you getting this from? Most of us are sad to see him go.
Not a star, but our most consistent small the past 2 years. Maybe due to injuries, but 60 goals in 41 games isn't anything to be sneezed at, especially in a top 8 side next to 2x Coleman medalists.
I honestly think it was just an unfortunate series of events for him. Coming out of contract at the wrong time where list spots and cap space are being planned for other areas.

I could imagine that he might've been asking for around $500k, which normally might not be unreasonable for his output, but we have to stick to our list profile that has likely been planned for a few years in advance and looking towards the next few years as well.
It's a bit of a risky move by Blues to let him go with Fogarty and Fantasia not hitting the scoreboard. Durdin dropping away in form and staying healthy. Motlop struggling to stay healthy and Moir still being largely unknown. Martin being delisted.

Anyway, best of luck to Matt. Sad to see him go.

 

[Philhawk]

Remember when Hawks traded Mark Williams to the Done for a 1st rounder? This deal screams a bit of that.

Small forwards who only kick 1.5 goals per game and do nothing else are going quickly out of fashion.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

West Coast turning 3 and 14 into Baker and Owies.

What the actual ****.

They turned 3 into 12, Baker and Owies.

isnt this guy our of contract and carlton already ruled him coming back as they putting time in durdin motlop and mohr? why wc dont just pick himn up in the pre season draft.

If they wanted him, why risk Tigers or North jumping in? They just got him for nothing anyway. He was steak knives.
He's an instant best 22 player who will barely miss a game and kick 25-35 goals.

 

[HairyO]

They turned 3 into 12, Baker and Owies.



If they wanted him, why risk Tigers or North jumping in? They just got him for nothing anyway. He was steak knives.
He's an instant best 22 player who will barely miss a game and kick 25-35 goals.

Owies was unwanted - Blues showed him the door. They could have got him with a pick in the 40s or 50s. He was the literal steak knives. Zero need to include him in that deal.

Blues didnt even want his 1 year offer.

So 3 became 12 and Baker, when they could have had 3 and our 14 for Barrass meaning having 3 and Baker. There will now be a late F1 at some point assuming Barrass gets traded.

And after being reamed, some Eagles still think thry are getting 2 x F1 for Barrass. Id say 2 x F2 is more likely.

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

Can I confirm, did WC value pick 3 as worth a guy deemed below average for most stats in 2024 and pick 12?

Thats fair, but this is damning.

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It’s not as if he’s a high pressure forward as well, with below average tackling stats.

With the lack of entries expected into the Eagles F50, I think he’s really going to struggle.

Remember when Hawks traded Mark Williams to the Done for a 1st rounder? This deal screams a bit of that.

Small forwards who only kick 1.5 goals per game and do nothing else are going quickly out of fashion.

What do you think the deal was?

Forget Owies. Break them down into separate deals...
It's basically pick 3 for 12 & 14. Picks 73 and 68 effectively cancel each other out.
Then it's Owies for 63.
Then it's 14 for Baker.

A lot of carry on over nothing.

 

[Jeremias]

Actually think Matt could do OK at the Eagles over the next few years. I am not a fan but he is all heart and I wish him well out west.

Carlton needed to move past him but I do think he'll kick plenty of goals for the Eagles.

 

[Philhawk]

What do you think the deal was?

Forget Owies. Break them down into separate deals...
It's basically pick 3 for 12 & 14. Picks 73 and 68 effectively cancel each other out.
Then it's Owies for 63.
Then it's 14 for Baker.

A lot of carry on over nothing.

Need to view it in entirety first.

Eagles could have traded Barrass to Hawks for 14

14 could have gone to Tigers for Baker.

The issue is Owies worth. There’s no world 12 and Owies is worth 3.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

What do you think the deal was?

Forget Owies. Break them down into separate deals...
It's basically pick 3 for 12 & 14. Picks 73 and 68 effectively cancel each other out.
Then it's Owies for 63.
Then it's 14 for Baker.

A lot of carry on over nothing.

This. Imo the only mistake they made was giving up 14 for Baker

 

[Cripps 'n' Blue Bloods]

The issue is Owies worth. There’s no world 12 and Owies is worth 3.

That's because that was NOT the deal!
You say to look at it in it's entirety, then ignore pick 14 from the Blues as part of the deal for 3.
IT WAS NOT 12 & OWIES FOR 3...
WC can still get a good deal for Barrass, then package up 12 and the Barrass pick to try and move up the order if they want.
Or try to get Richmond or North's future 1st. Go into the next draft with 2 x top 5 picks before the Tassie drafts.

 

[CakeEater]

Pick 3s usually get spent on Chris Judds, not Matt Owies