Opinion Matt Priddis discussion.

[Karim Abdul Yeo]

You responded to the debate with a completely false statement, of course I'm not going to respond to you with any sort of proper answer, you're clueless.

Probably has something to do with the paint fumes.

How is that a false statement?? That is data from AFL sites for top 10 tackling players in AFL this season. How is that false?? calling people clueless does not make you win an argument. Usually more often than not people who call others clueless are the biggest idiots of them all. Are you the authority of Football?? now whoever disagrees with you is clueless?? As i said, learn your stuff, make sure you are comfortable if you need to defend it and try to practice staying away form name calling cuz at that point you lose the argument.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

Are you telling me or asking me not to post?? Either way its pretty piss poor from a mod to indirectly tell its members what to do. My post was related to priddis, this is Priddis thread. So what am I missing?? You want me to stay quiet?? or just say what you wanna hear and what makes sense to you?? you wanna ban me?? for thinking differently?? go ahead.

Your post I was responding to had zero to do with Priddis and was almost entirely about how mods are selected.

You can get back to posting about Priddis if you like (bearing in mind everything that could possibly be said on the subject has already been said at some point) or you can exit the discussion. Your choice.

 

[RookiePick]

 

[Matera92]

But here is the problem. Who said I responded to you?? I posted on the thread. I dint quote you, I didn't respond to you nor did i mention you. It was related to Priddis hence I posted in his thread. You on the other hand responded to me. You chose to do that not me. Nobody forced you.

 

[Matera92]

How is that a false statement?? That is data from AFL sites for top 10 tackling players in AFL this season. How is that false?? calling people clueless does not make you win an argument. Usually more often than not people who call others clueless are the biggest idiots of them all. Are you the authority of Football?? now whoever disagrees with you is clueless?? As i said, learn your stuff, make sure you are comfortable if you need to defend it and try to practice staying away form name calling cuz at that point you lose the argument.

Your first post opens with this;


Guys you need to stop embarrassing yourself by hanging on the " greatest tackler in the game".

Not one single person in the sequence of posts leading up to your 2c of dribble had claimed that, only a debate on his ability as a tackler. You then post a list of the top 10 tacklers in the AFL, of which Matt is in (Further reinforcing the argument that for all his faults, the ability to tackle if he's able to close distant on them isn't one of them.)

No one was debating his place in the team at that point, it was purely on his ability to tackle. You clearly didn't read the proceeding posts, or you struggle with basic English comprehension, either way you've been called out on it and are now throwing a tanty.

 

[Karim Abdul Yeo]

Your first post opens with this;


Guys you need to stop embarrassing yourself by hanging on the " greatest tackler in the game".

Not one single person in the sequence of posts leading up to your 2c of dribble had claimed that, only a debate on his ability as a tackler. You then post a list of the top 10 tacklers in the AFL, of which Matt is in (Further reinforcing the argument that for all his faults, the ability to tackle if he's able to close distant on them isn't one of them.)

No one was debating his place in the team at that point, it was purely on his ability to tackle. You clearly didn't read the proceeding posts, or you struggle with basic English comprehension, either way you've been called out on it and are now throwing a tanty.

See how much better that was?? no name calling and no insulting other people's intelligence. You are learning. Good. I am happy with this post. At least I made a difference.

 

[Georgie 404]

Re all the best tackler suff as long as he's within arms length..
Going by that logic, how about going out and getting a sumo wrestler?
Couldn't be a worse kick or slower.. and probably a better spectacle to watch

 

[Winky]

If Priddis isn't the best tackler in AFL history, he's certainly one of the best. You don't get to have the most tackles of all time, the highest average tackles per game in the top 15 tacklers, and be represented in the top 10 most tackles in a season 3 times (no-one else is in there more than once) unless you're a pretty bloody good tackler.

Seriously...the guy has so many obvious flaws and all you're doing by crapping on about his tackling is making people question your better points because they're losing respect for your opinions.

You do if that's what you base your game on and you get to spend 90% of the games as a close in midfielder who doesn't have to chase or create play. You simply try and get the ball if close to you and then if you can't you grab the bloke who does get it.

 

[RookiePick]

The sad thing is we would probably look like a pretty good side if everyone simply tried to get the footy when it was close to them and then, if they can't, they grabbed the bloke who did get it.

 

[Outback Eagle]

grabbed

We looked a good side when we played in melbourne without Priddis. He is to slow. And He is not a good tackler, he only tackles those in close around the ball. I would argue that he gets tackled more in and around the ball, then play stops and the ball is thrown up. I would also argue that most of his tackles are similar. play stops and the ball is thrown up. We need tyo find a place for him in the WAFL to assist the young group of mid-fielders to develop.
My view is they need to do this now, not next year, and heaven forbid not 2019.

 

[ZergMinion]

You do if that's what you base your game on and you get to spend 90% of the games as a close in midfielder who doesn't have to chase or create play. You simply try and get the ball if close to you and then if you can't you grab the bloke who does get it.

So what are you saying? That Matt isn't a very good tackler?

 

[RookiePick]

I think that Matt's time has come to an end but saying he is a poor tackler/anyone can tackle like him is ridiculous. I'm certainly not arguing that his tackling is SO good that we can ignore his shortcomings and I haven't seen one person try and present that argument.

I just get pissed off with people who are so petty that one of the few things he is elite at they try to dismiss and belittle. Be rational.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

He's a good tackler, but he's poor defensively.

Not many players you could say that about! He's our little unique snowflake.

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

The sad thing is we would probably look like a pretty good side if everyone simply tried to get the footy when it was close to them and then, if they can't, they grabbed the bloke who did get it.

Reminds me of Adam Sandler as He Waterboy.

"My job is I tackle the guy with the ball. Unless he gives the ball to someone else in which case I try to tackle that person"

 

[Godfather32]

So what are you saying? That Matt isn't a very good tackler?

He's an excellent tackler....as long he's within a couple of feet of the guy he's tackling when they get the ball, and as long as the guy is reasonably stationary.

 

[Eagleboy68]

He's an excellent tackler....as long he's within a couple of feet of the guy he's tackling when they get the ball, and as long as the guy is reasonably stationary.

And as long as it's in congestion
And as long as the player is injured who has the ball
And as long as he has to stop at the lights and wait for a green signal...

 

[RookiePick]

And as long as it's in congestion
And as long as the player is injured who has the ball
And as long as he has to stop at the lights and wait for a green signal...

Fortuitously these exact circumstances have occurred, on average, 6.7 times per game.

 

[Winky]

So what are you saying? That Matt isn't a very good tackler?

What I am saying is that it is reasonably easy to tackle in congestion and if you are focused on just that rather than such things as providing an option for team mates or actually getting the ball yourself first then the numbers will add up. In addition, some of the tackles I've seen him do (and probably added to his stats) have been when the ball has been pinned already. As always, that's not always the case and I've seen him do some good tackles to stop the ball getting out and have also seen him do really good extraction of the ball himself but just looking at overall numbers does not tell the story and he is not "elite" at anything in my view. If you want to see elite tackling watch Dangerfield, Sloan or Rioli who actually chase and tackle which is much harder than just grabbing virtually stationary targets.

 

[ZergMinion]

What I am saying is that it is reasonably easy to tackle in congestion and if you are focused on just that rather than such things as providing an option for team mates or actually getting the ball yourself first then the numbers will add up. In addition, some of the tackles I've seen him do (and probably added to his stats) have been when the ball has been pinned already. As always, that's not always the case and I've seen him do some good tackles to stop the ball getting out and have also seen him do really good extraction of the ball himself but just looking at overall numbers does not tell the story and he is not "elite" at anything in my view. If you want to see elite tackling watch Dangerfield, Sloan or Rioli who actually chase and tackle which is much harder than just grabbing virtually stationary targets.

I think you're confusing Elite with Exciting. The 3 players you just listed probably average less than one run down tackle per game. How many run down tackles do you even get in an entire match?

Also tackling someone who's already tackled or pinned does not count as a tackle statistic. Matt's numbers aren't padded. He's really good in close which is why he's had a 237 game career.

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

Well now that Sammy Mitchell is out I assume Priddis is going to burst this game apart! Lol.

 

[new breed]

Well now that Sammy Mitchell is out I assume Priddis is going to burst this game apart! Lol.

The club want to win the contested possessions to improve , thats what they have been saying so Priddis had 16 contested possessions from 23 possessions last week so on that theory from West Coast I can see why he is maintained in the team , not to burst packs .

 

[Eaglemaniac]

The club want to win the contested possessions to improve , thats what they have been saying so Priddis had 16 contested possessions from 23 possessions last week so on that theory from West Coast I can see why he is maintained in the team , not to burst packs .

Thats great, so then when he turns it over 47% of the time after he wins it, what does the club think that does to our "possession" rate?

 

[ZergMinion]

Thats great, so then when he turns it over 47% of the time after he wins it, what does the club think that does to our "possession" rate?

A turnover is just an opportunity to win the ball back!

 

[CoastersFlag No.5]

A turnover is just an opportunity to win the ball back!

That's the kind of glass half full thinking that our match committee needs! Look he is an inside bull but watch the turnovers he generates and his lack of two way running burn us on the spread. Anyway supposedly with Pendles out the Collingwood midfield is vulnerable. We will see if we miss Mitchell more than they miss Pendlebury.

 

[Eagleboy68]

I think you're confusing Elite with Exciting. The 3 players you just listed probably average less than one run down tackle per game. How many run down tackles do you even get in an entire match?

Also tackling someone who's already tackled or pinned does not count as a tackle statistic. Matt's numbers aren't padded. He's really good in close which is why he's had a 237 game career.

According to many in this thread he's had a 237 game career because there hasn't been anybody better on our list...not because his numbers aren't padded.