Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach (Part 2) - Full Support of the Board

[George Kramer]

He was on radio saying that the club should hold off on re-signing him then a week later the club re-signs him.

From that, it seems like he didn't have a lot of say in the decision.

I agree Thebarton has been a bit of a s**t show, but I'm more concerned that the decision to go there was a bad one. I'm not even sure if Silvers was at the club when the decision was made about Thebarton.

I don’t believe he said that, he said there was no set timeline they would work to

 

[Crowstar]

I'm happy for us to keep losing so the blind melon gets his marching orders and Silvers gets embarrassed by the ridiculous call to extend a coach that nobody is interested in.

 

[1990crow]

I'm happy for us to keep losing so the blind melon gets his marching orders and Silvers gets embarrassed by the ridiculous call to extend a coach that nobody is interested in.

Yep. I'm on the barracking against us stage.

 

[Pugsley]

Yep. I'm on the barracking against us stage.

I am on the Carlton train next week. I hope they thrash us.

 

[MsTopG]

Performance clauses often refer to incentives that get unlocked.

I wouldn't get your hopes up about him not being needed to get paid out when we fire him.

Surely the crows would have covered themself if the team completely dropped away and won less than 5-6 games for the year. Any professional business would have safeguards to protect themself when dealing with million dollar contracts. The extension was surely contingent on the proviso that there would be linear progression in 2024. If the club finishes 14th-18th then nicks would have a worse record than mathew primus. He ain't surviving that.

 

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I don’t believe he said that, he said there was no set timeline they would work to

Actually I think you're right.

From memory though he did give that response to a question as to why he wasn't signed prior to this season.

That's why when his signing was announced it made it feel as though he had no idea at that point when he made that comment that an extension had been agreed to.

Ultimately if he was the key driver then he deserves the blame, but if people are looking for someone to blame then in this case I'd put my house on Roo being the main driving force behind pushing for Nicks to get an extension.

I actually think that Silvers has been okay and
would hate to see him scapegoated if it wasn't his call.

 

[FR0GGY]

He was on radio saying that the club should hold off on re-signing him then a week later the club re-signs him.

Or he’s just saying what people want to hear.

 

[BigBoSS_Riot]

Any professional business would have safeguards to protect themself when dealing with million dollar contracts.

professional business

I don't like our chances.

 

[SoppingClam]

I'm happy for us to keep losing so the blind melon gets his marching orders and Silvers gets embarrassed by the ridiculous call to extend a coach that nobody is interested in.

Another 2 years contract for this goose.

We are the 2nd youngest team with pre-season training just how Nick's would have learnt in Sydney from 94'. During their ultimate boring flooding tactical time.

Heck appointing Ben Hart when he started as forward coach. A bloke that never played as a forward.

Now it's "the main thing is all the kids get a kick and have fun. The score doesn't matter"..

The slow sideways backwards rubbish is totally bizarre. Absolutely no leading for marks upwards for the centreline.

I'd be happy to see us throw everything this guy has taught them. Have one player back as a goal tender within the 25m mark and only go forward.

The 4th quarter this week, the players were allowed to not fluff around until they hope to find a target. We have the talent but not the support of the coaching to be aggressive and try and do what Don Pyke achieved in 110 points average score in 2017.

I have never seen a club be clearly coached to muck around or be dropped like this guy does.

Get rid of him now and let the guys coach themselves for the rest of the season

 

[1990crow]

I am on the Carlton train next week. I hope they thrash us.

It's not nice to barrack against your own club but when those in charge are actively destroying us through poor selection, playing players in their wrong natural positions, have a rubbish game plan, and fail to have a clear plan to get a team of 22 AFL standard players I'm out.

 

[Pugsley]

It's nice to barrack against your own club but when those in charge are actively destroying us through poor selection, playing players in their wrong natural positions, have a rubbish game plan, and fail to have a clear plan to get a team of 22 AFL standard players I'm out.

Unfortunately, there are many lining up for tickets.
We don't deserve supporters.

 

[1970crow]

Silvers said this week that he meets weekly with Nicks and Kelly about football and what’s going on.

No chance he’s not involved

Silvers is pure meh.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Silvers said this week that he meets weekly with Nicks and Kelly about football and what’s going on.

No chance he’s not involved

Did they discuss the game plan?

 

[1970crow]

But I think that's half the problem with Silvers, we haven't seen anything that he has done to improve the club.
That we still have Hamish and Adam Kelly in key roles concerns me.
That we have employed a psychologist to assist with close loses and we are 0-4 concerns me.
That he was a key member in re-appointing Nicks concerns me.
I couldn't name one thing he has done to improve us.
And we haven't even turned a sod of soil at Thebarton as well

But the power bills get paid, what more can you expect from a CEO?

 

[George Kramer]

Did they discuss the game plan?

Can’t remember the exact words, but something like they talk he passes feedback but doesn’t tell them what to do

 

[1970crow]

Actually I think you're right.

From memory though he did give that response to a question as to why he wasn't signed prior to this season.

That's why when his signing was announced it made it feel as though he had no idea at that point when he made that comment that an extension had been agreed to.

Ultimately if he was the key driver then he deserves the blame, but if people are looking for someone to blame then in this case I'd put my house on Roo being the main driving force behind pushing for Nicks to get an extension.

I actually think that Silvers has been okay and
would hate to see him scapegoated if it wasn't his call.

In what way has Silvers been ok but Olsen a failure?

 

[Greenfinger]

I'd love to know what the process is

I think it involves really slow and predictable switching of the play to the opposite wing ultimately leading to a turnover

 

[King Elvis]

Will probably only apply to new board members that come onboard from a given date. You just wait and see.

As I’ve said to someone

You haven’t been around long enough but the AFC is literally sucking the life force out of me. I followed West Torrens for 30 years and in all that time we played in only 4 final series (lost every final) - but I was young and thought I’d see them in a GF one day. Well I eventually did but it was the merged entity and I was in Darwin in the bank, flew down for the day in 1993 (we won and I got absolutely smashed like your type of drunkenness a few years ago) and flew back the next day, flight cost over $1k because I thought I would never see it again (wasn’t the case fortunately and seen them win a few more times). The AFC last won one back 26 years ago and I doubt I’ll see another with current board and Roo in charge.

$1k well spent!

 

[Rotayjay]

This is the first time I've seen a vomit emoji in a Bigfooty thread title, but it's entirely appropriate for this one.

 

[Rory Walkerfield]

We were supposed to be introducing a board tenure rule which means Roo must be about done, did it happen as it’s gone very quiet

Same tenure rule that applies to Putin and Xi Jinping?

 

[Macka_321]

I am on the Carlton train next week. I hope they thrash us.

No hope about it they will beat us easy.

 

[CrowBloke]

Tex interview on 7:
‘Process, process, trust the process, backs ok, process, trust the process, process’

Saw that.

I'm sad to say that Tex thinks (or a least says) the Crows are better than they are.
Like Fogarty/Jones/Pedlar/Rachele and others, he's been Nicks-ified.

 

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In what way has Silvers been ok but Olsen a failure?

I don't think I've ever explicitly labelled Olsen "as a failure"

I've said from day 1 that I have massive concerns with his SANFL ties and his perception of the club's purpose and status in relation to the SANFL.

Without rehashing things, the Thebarton Oval stuff has only furthered my concerns regarding Olsen and the SANFL.

He's also the Chairman of a board which has just hastily re-signed a dud coach when they had the option to wait until later in the season. If the six month payout rule doesn't apply to us then with the soft cap rules we've effectively screwed ourselves over for the next two years because we have to wear the full cost of Nicks' contract if we sack him.

Ultimately if you sit in the big chair you're the one who takes the responsibility for poor decisions by the Board.

In regards to Silvers, the main role of a club CEO is the business side of the club and I haven't seen anything yet that makes me think that Silvers is doing poorly. He's certainly not the one making calls on whether Nicks can coach or not.

If he's doing a shit job then by all means get rid of him, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater by getting rid of the wrong people at the expense of keeping the ones who are making the bad decisions.

Roo is at the top of my hit list of the ones who need to be shown the door.

 

[George Kramer]

I don't think I've ever explicitly labelled Olsen "as a failure"

I've said from day 1 that I have massive concerns with his SANFL ties and his perception of the club's purpose and status in relation to the SANFL.

Without rehashing things, the Thebarton Oval stuff has only furthered my concerns regarding Olsen and the SANFL.

He's also the Chairman of a board which has just hastily re-signed a dud coach when they had the option to wait until later in the season. If the six month payout rule doesn't apply to us then with the soft cap rules we've effectively screwed ourselves over for the next two years because we have to wear the full cost of Nicks' contract if we sack him.

Ultimately if you sit in the big chair you're the one who takes the responsibility for poor decisions by the Board.

In regards to Silvers, the main role of a club CEO is the business side of the club and I haven't seen anything yet that makes me think that Silvers is doing poorly. He's certainly not the one making calls on whether Nicks can coach or not.

If he's doing a s**t job then by all means get rid of him, but let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater by getting rid of the wrong people at the expense of keeping the ones who are making the bad decisions.

Roo is at the top of my hit list of the ones who need to be shown the door.

You’ve been paranoid about Olsen and the good job he did at the SANFL since day 1, it’s irrational and you’ve still yet failed to provide one alternative to Thebby, but we’ve covered that paranoia to death.

Hundred percent go hard on Olsen for Nicks but you’re being very selective if you think Silvers did not have a major say in his re-signing.

You keep referring to he just looks after the business side. Well given that and we were travelling well financially under Fagan, do you think he did a good job and we were harsh for force him out?

 

[FullyBigKPro]

The main issue is we don't have a strong 'footy' person inside the hierarchy at Adelaide. (No, im not counting that turncoat clown Ricciuto)

Kelly, Silvers, Olsen.... Literally outside of AFC supporters, no one else would even know who these blokes are.

We don't have a Neil Balme, Ross Lyon, Tom Harley, Graham Wright, Brendon Gale, Simon Lloyd etc etc type in our setup. Strong football operators who don't take any sh*t and strive for professional success.

Its actually sad the quality of personnel we now have running the club.