Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach

[adelaidecrows]

He does realise he has more than 22 cattle though?

exactly!

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

There can no longer be any debate, Matthew Nicks does not require effort and toughness in the contest.

You cannot watch Sholl for the last month and suggest otherwise. Coaching group might be keen to just mulligan the Essendon game but most people shouldn't and it's been more than just one game.

Sack the lot.

If we only required toughness at the contest then we would pick McHenry day in day out and draft more like him.

Without biased whipping boy glasses, what DOES sholl bring to the table? Elite endurance to run all day? Not a bad trait. Saves some rotations for those who are building fitness and gets Sholl into space more. He has a pretty good kick. Seems to lower the eyes rather than bomb long.

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

Its not that he doesnt want it, he is too afraid to lose anymore to look for it. So out goes development and in stays a winning formula that he can rely on at least winning 50% of the time right now and can beat up on mediocre opposition.

Why do you think development is out the window? Don't you think that the 15 players with 75 games or less experience in the 22 are still developing? We have all seen their continued growth this year.

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

exactly!

So most of your jumping up and down is because Nick's hasn't played 2 or 3 basically untried players this season, when we have had a 95% healthy uninjured list.

Start of the year Pedler, Michalanney, Rankine were all new to the crows AFL 22.

It's been a strange year with virtually no injuries to cover. As soon as Doedee went down, Worrell stepped in. Not Hinge back, Crouch to the middle.

 

[GreyCrow]

Why do you think development is out the window? Don't you think that the 15 players with 75 games or less experience in the 22 are still developing? We have all seen their continued growth this year.

So you see this as our best 22 for the next few years? That these 15 players are up to it?

So most of your jumping up and down is because Nick's hasn't played 2 or 3 basically untried players this season, when we have had a 95% healthy uninjured list.

Start of the year Pedler, Michalanney, Rankine were all new to the crows AFL 22.

It's been a strange year with virtually no injuries to cover. As soon as Doedee went down, Worrell stepped in. Not Hinge back, Crouch to the middle.

Who is ready to step up IF Sloane, Dawson, Hinge, or Fogarty go down with injury? How do you manage players over a 6 month playing season?

Its not by continually shuffling the bottom 3 players in and out each week. Its called a SQUAD for a reason.

But oh no In Burgess We Trust

Oh and a nice try to shoehorn Pedlar and Rankine into the new player mould. What a goose egg of a diversion.

 

[NSolis]

Oh and a nice try to shoehorn Pedlar and Rankine into the new player mould. What a goose egg of a diversion.

Why does Pedlar not count as a new player? Just because he wasn't a debutant? He'd only played 5 games before this season and has been picked every week he's been available. They could easily have left him out for someone else if they weren't interested in trying a new player, either at the start of the season or following the suspension.

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

So you see this as our best 22 for the next few years? That these 15 players are up to it?

Who is ready to step up IF Sloane, Dawson, Hinge, or Fogarty go down with injury? How do you manage players over a 6 month playing season?

Its not by continually shuffling the bottom 3 players in and out each week. Its called a SQUAD for a reason.

But oh no In Burgess We Trust

Oh and a nice try to shoehorn Pedlar and Rankine into the new player mould. What a goose egg of a diversion.

No, I don't think mcHenry at this stage will last. I am sold that Murphy is no good. I am 50/50 on Sholl, and still think Jones could easily become the next whipping boy once those 3 are gone.

If someone went down, next in line comes in. Just like Worrall did. Worrall I was confident could step up. Nank perhaps, but I don't think Cook, Berry, or anyone else in the SANFL could.

Pedler is new to AFL. In what world is he not? Rankine is new to the crows. He was also an upgrade in the 22.

You would be the same kind of person who would cry when we lose winnable games because Cook couldn't run the lines, Nank was pushed off the ball easily and Borlase had 5 kicked on him. Even though playing those is exactly what you wanted.

Don't disregard how many players teams have played this season through necessity of injury forced changes, and exceptional SANFL form. 2 things this year we have rarely seen.

 

[GreyCrow]

You would be the same kind of person who would cry when we lose winnable games because Cook couldn't run the lines, Nank was pushed off the ball easily and Borlase had 5 kicked on him. Even though playing those is exactly what you wanted.

You obviously don't know or read my posts at all if you think this.

I have 1 very strong rule in that I never bag new players or inexperienced players.

I understand the pressure.

I will bag Rory I will bag 94 game Murphy but I will never bag anyone under 30 games

 

[Samcro24]

You would be the same kind of person who would cry when we lose winnable games because Cook couldn't run the lines, Nank was pushed off the ball easily and Borlase had 5 kicked on him. Even though playing those is exactly what you wanted.

I don’t think anyone who has followed the club, or football in general for any length of time feels this way.

It’s pretty obvious that there’s gaps in the team and it’s not good enough to take us to a flag.

I think most are happy (or want) to take a step back, to move forward.

 

[Pilchard_Adams]

You obviously don't know or read my posts at all if you think this.

I have 1 very strong rule in that I never bag new players or inexperienced players.

I understand the pressure.

I will bag Rory I will bag 94 game Murphy but I will never bag anyone under 30 games

That's fair enough, sorry.

The cupboard is quite bare at the moment. The youth we would be blooding right now would have come from Pick 5 last year. Dawson pick. And we chose to stockpile as best we could for future.

There are gaps in the rebuild because it isn't finished yet.

 

[rocket18]

.You would be the same kind of person who would cry when we lose winnable games because Cook couldn't run the lines, Nank was pushed off the ball easily and Borlase had 5 kicked on him. Even though playing those is exactly what you wanted.

No, no and no.

This is the default position of the club can do no wrong brigade.

The vast majority of those critical of Nicks would much prefer Cook, Nank and Borlase getting beaten at a contest then persist with the past it, not going to make it players Nicks refuses to drop.

We are rebuilding, you want to get games into potential players - not waste games on has beens and never will be's.

And no, this doesn't mean drop every player, another line your brigade likes. Drop senior players who are not contributing in performance not just vague 'leadership vibe'.

Much prefer losing games with our potential midfield, then losing with past it players

 

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Have been sitting here for years reading the views of the masses (according to those on here anyway). What concerns me is negativity. It is like "we need another hospital but not in my backyard" syndrome. Was looking at the names of the coaches of the 18 clubs yesterday and in my view, I prefer Nicks to at least 6 of the current coaches. I would prefer him over Sam Mitchell (appointed because he is a club favourite), Gold Coast coach (whoever is in the chair this year), Voss (was a great player but still has to prove himself - like Nicks), Beveridge (seems to be going backwards quickly given the cattle he has), Longmuir (no better than Nicks so why change - better the devil you know than the one you don't), Simpson (had the cattle to win a premiership and now without that he is really struggling). Kingsley has the squad but also still to prove himself. Unfortunately, coaches who can guide teams to premierships do not grow on trees. I believe we are heading in the right direction. We win at home, lose away. To me, I feel that there are those in the team who do not believe that they can win away. I saw stats yesterday showing the difference in performance player by player between play at home and playing away. That is a mental thing, not a gameplan thing. Maybe a shrink is what we need???

 

[GreyCrow]

Have been sitting here for years reading the views of the masses (according to those on here anyway). What concerns me is negativity. It is like "we need another hospital but not in my backyard" syndrome. Was looking at the names of the coaches of the 18 clubs yesterday and in my view, I prefer Nicks to at least 6 of the current coaches. I would prefer him over Sam Mitchell (appointed because he is a club favourite), Gold Coast coach (whoever is in the chair this year), Voss (was a great player but still has to prove himself - like Nicks), Beveridge (seems to be going backwards quickly given the cattle he has), Longmuir (no better than Nicks so why change - better the devil you know than the one you don't), Simpson (had the cattle to win a premiership and now without that he is really struggling). Kingsley has the squad but also still to prove himself. Unfortunately, coaches who can guide teams to premierships do not grow on trees. I believe we are heading in the right direction. We win at home, lose away. To me, I feel that there are those in the team who do not believe that they can win away. I saw stats yesterday showing the difference in performance player by player between play at home and playing away. That is a mental thing, not a gameplan thing. Maybe a shrink is what we need???

Another camp?

 

[rocket18]

Have been sitting here for years reading the views of the masses (according to those on here anyway). What concerns me is negativity. It is like "we need another hospital but not in my backyard" syndrome. Was looking at the names of the coaches of the 18 clubs yesterday and in my view, I prefer Nicks to at least 6 of the current coaches. I would prefer him over Sam Mitchell (appointed because he is a club favourite), Gold Coast coach (whoever is in the chair this year), Voss (was a great player but still has to prove himself - like Nicks), Beveridge (seems to be going backwards quickly given the cattle he has), Longmuir (no better than Nicks so why change - better the devil you know than the one you don't), Simpson (had the cattle to win a premiership and now without that he is really struggling). Kingsley has the squad but also still to prove himself. Unfortunately, coaches who can guide teams to premierships do not grow on trees. I believe we are heading in the right direction. We win at home, lose away. To me, I feel that there are those in the team who do not believe that they can win away. I saw stats yesterday showing the difference in performance player by player between play at home and playing away. That is a mental thing, not a gameplan thing. Maybe a shrink is what we need???

Our coach would have access to those same stats, what does it say about the coach who keeps selecting under performing players - especially the older players?

The negativity, its going to be 30 years since our last flag, for a club like ours thats bloody pathetic.

We have (are) doing it wrong, our philosophy is wrong.

 

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Another camp?

anything other than another camp!!!! Maybe a couple of players from other clubs who have won interstate with their current club?

 

[pjcrows]

Interesting that Nicks sought out Leon Cameron

Leon Cameron

Age

52

Ht

185cm

Wt

82kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

17.2

4star

K

12.4

5star

HB

4.7

3star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.9

3star

No current season stats available

D

20.8

5star

K

14.4

5star

HB

6.4

4star

M

3.6

4star

T

0.8

3star

earlier in the week to talk about how they smoked us twice in a row here.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Interesting that Nicks sought out Leon Cameron earlier in the week to talk about how they smoked us twice in a row here.

I would call that depressing. Asking Leon Cameron for coaching advice is a bad sign.

 

[GreyCrow]

anything other than another camp!!!! Maybe a couple of players from other clubs who have won interstate with their current club?

Understand your original point and there should be analysts looking at these figures.

Old phrase but it's moneyball analytics 101.

Who performs where and when.

It has been talked about a bit in this forum

Oh and coaches willing to do something about it

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Interesting that Nicks sought out Leon Cameron earlier in the week to talk about how they smoked us twice in a row here.

What's Cameron doing these days coaching wise. Seeking Cameron's advice is wise but also shows Nicks has no idea.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Have been sitting here for years reading the views of the masses (according to those on here anyway). What concerns me is negativity. It is like "we need another hospital but not in my backyard" syndrome. Was looking at the names of the coaches of the 18 clubs yesterday and in my view, I prefer Nicks to at least 6 of the current coaches. I would prefer him over Sam Mitchell (appointed because he is a club favourite), Gold Coast coach (whoever is in the chair this year), Voss (was a great player but still has to prove himself - like Nicks), Beveridge (seems to be going backwards quickly given the cattle he has), Longmuir (no better than Nicks so why change - better the devil you know than the one you don't), Simpson (had the cattle to win a premiership and now without that he is really struggling). Kingsley has the squad but also still to prove himself. Unfortunately, coaches who can guide teams to premierships do not grow on trees. I believe we are heading in the right direction. We win at home, lose away. To me, I feel that there are those in the team who do not believe that they can win away. I saw stats yesterday showing the difference in performance player by player between play at home and playing away. That is a mental thing, not a gameplan thing. Maybe a shrink is what we need???

Welcome aboard .....hope you contribute a lot more

 

[WaynesWorld19]

What's Cameron doing these days coaching wise. Seeking Cameron's advice is wise but also shows Nicks has no idea.

Isn't a good attribute to seek input from others, rather than be close minded & insular to your own POV's ?

 

[Scorpus]

Interesting that Nicks sought out Leon Cameron earlier in the week to talk about how they smoked us twice in a row here.

Nicks: "How did you smoke us twice in a row here?"

Cameron: "The GWS midfield was more than 1 player deep"

Nicks: "Oh"

 

[Eagleboy2011]

Nicks: "How did you smoke us twice in a row here?"

Cameron: "The GWS midfield was more than 1 player deep"

Nicks: "Oh"

100%

 

[George Kramer]

100%

And Nicks played Dawson in defence last time…….boom

 

[pjcrows]

What's Cameron doing these days coaching wise. Seeking Cameron's advice is wise but also shows Nicks has no idea.

I think it's a positive thing.