Recommitted Max Holmes [re-signed with Geelong through 2028]

[Pure_Ownage]

That number still seems ridiculous to me. He's a good AFL player but that's top 5 at your club money for a mid/wing.

He will be top 5 at the club during his next contract though (thanks to retirements).

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

He will be top 5 at the club during his next contract though (thanks to retirements).

Name 5 better who will still be there by end of that contract.

Dangerfield
Hawkins
Cameron
Duncan
Guthrie
Blitz
Stewart?

I'll rephrase, that's top 5 player at top 4 side type money. I'm actually staggered you think that's a reasonable amount to be paying Holmes. Maybe Cats fans are just huge on him but paying him 1m even in new money seems a great way to absolutely butcher your cap. Maybe North can throw him that much because they have unlimited capspace for a few years

 

[The 747]

I'll rephrase, that's top 5 player at top 4 side type money. I'm actually staggered you think that's a reasonable amount to be paying Holmes. Maybe Cats fans are just huge on him but paying him 1m even in new money seems a great way to absolutely butcher your cap. Maybe North can throw him that much because they have unlimited capspace for a few years

It's not reasonable but we might have to pay it. With the new CBA it is double the basic salary FYI.

We probably have more cap space opening up than North.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I'll rephrase, that's top 5 player at top 4 side type money. I'm actually staggered you think that's a reasonable amount to be paying Holmes. Maybe Cats fans are just huge on him but paying him 1m even in new money seems a great way to absolutely butcher your cap. Maybe North can throw him that much because they have unlimited capspace for a few years

My opinion is a bit out of line with most other cats fans on this one.

I would have thought top 5 players at bottom 4 sides would get paid better. Because who else you spending that on?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

My opinion is a bit out of line with most other cats fans on this one.

I would have thought top 5 players at bottom 4 sides would get paid better. Because who else you spending that on?

I doubt that's how Cats operate and I think you need to be bad for a while to have that much room. I doubt you guys are bad for a while.

It's not reasonable but we might have to pay it. With the new CBA it is double the basic salary FYI.

We probably have more cap space opening up than North.

I think a club like Geelong can find much better uses of $1m in salary cap (and the draft picks that come with trading him) then spending it on Holmes. If he wants that much (and maybe I'm really underrating him compared to a lot of Cats supporters), wish him well and take the club offering that much to the cleaners

 

[The 747]

I doubt that's how Cats operate and I think you need to be bad for a while to have that much room. I doubt you guys are bad for a while.

I think a club like Geelong can find much better uses of $1m in salary cap (and the draft picks that come with trading him) then spending it on Holmes. If he wants that much (and maybe I'm really underrating him compared to a lot of Cats supporters), wish him well and take the club offering that much to the cleaners

Perhaps, but he is our best young midfield prospect and we need mids pretty badly. Maybe it wouldn't be the worst thing if he left though.

 

[Catastrophe!]

I doubt that's how Cats operate and I think you need to be bad for a while to have that much room. I doubt you guys are bad for a while.

We only need to be bad for this year, to have that much room.

Danger, Duncan, Tuohy, Rohan, Stanley, Parfitt, Bews, all possibly gone this year.

Put that on top of Selwood and Smith last year, and it's a lot of retirements with not a whole lot of superstars getting paid besides Stewart and Cameron, and maybe Blics. Guthrie possibly retires in 2025, and we're talking close to 5 MIL out of the cap in 3 years.

We're about to have a lottt of room, come end of this year and next. Paying Holmes that amount if he has a year worthy of it, doesn't seem that outlandish when you consider who we might have left - and how young most of the list will be.

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

We only need to be bad for this year, to have that much room.

Danger, Duncan, Tuohy, Rohan, Stanley, Parfitt, Bews, all possibly gone this year.

Put that on top of Selwood and Smith last year, and it's a lot of retirements with not a whole lot of superstars getting paid besides Stewart and Cameron, and maybe Blics. Guthrie possibly retires in 2025, and we're talking close to 5 MIL out of the cap in 3 years.

We're about to have a lottt of room, come end of this year and next. Paying Holmes that amount if he has a year worthy of it, doesn't seem that outlandish when you consider who we might have left - and how young most of the list will be.

Seems like Holmes and his Manager see a way to make bank - good on them, he would need an AA year to be worth that much money IMO and I dont see that happening. There's always something you can do with cap rather than overpay, like frontloading to make crazy amounts of room later.

Geelong seemed to have a history of paying players what their worth or unders, never over, regardless of the cap situation. Happy for your club to join us pleb clubs on overpaying talent

 

[Catastrophe!]

Seems like Holmes and his Manager see a way to make bank - good on them, he would need an AA year to be worth that much money IMO and I dont see that happening. There's always something you can do with cap rather than overpay, like frontloading to make crazy amounts of room later.

Geelong seemed to have a history of paying players what their worth or unders, never over, regardless of the cap situation. Happy for your club to join us pleb clubs on overpaying talent

Hey this might be a first for us!

Seriously though, I'd imagine he'd have to have an AA squad calibre sort of year (rather than Final 22), and podium placement for the B+F to command that sort of money.

From what I've seen this pre season, he very well may just do it.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I'll rephrase, that's top 5 player at top 4 side type money. I'm actually staggered you think that's a reasonable amount to be paying Holmes. Maybe Cats fans are just huge on him but paying him 1m even in new money seems a great way to absolutely butcher your cap. Maybe North can throw him that much because they have unlimited capspace for a few years

a couple of points on that.

1. Geelong rarely if ever butcher their cap historically we will manage it well and we will have a lot of cap room in years to come.

2. We rate holmes a lot higher than external people do. But largely its true we wont have a lot of players worth more than him during his next deal.

 

[Foxx]

This might be the first time in a very long time Geelong might have to pay big $ to keep a player.

The incentive to stay always outweighed the prospect of leaving. So players were staying and coming accross for unders.
But now the side isn't as strong anymore, so it's not quite so advantageous.
I think Holmes will ask for a $ contract equal to those being offered.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

This might be the first time in a very long time Geelong might have to pay big $ to keep a player.

The incentive to stay always outweighed the prospect of leaving. So players were staying and coming accross for unders.
But now the side isn't as strong anymore, so it's not quite so advantageous.
I think Holmes will ask for a $ contract equal to those being offered.

Possibly. but we are going to have a LOT of capspace. So we can afford to pay that $ if we really want to keep him.

 

[WalshistheGOAT]

Holmes and Walsh together running through Carltons midfield would be utterly beautiful

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Oh I hope he wants to come to Collingwood, as I remember the fun had when Mummy Henry missed his bed.

A future second should get the job done.

You know he's best mates with Henry right? With the way your mob acted with him I can't see Ollie selling the Pies to Max anytime soon.

If he is to go, Collingwood isn't even in the picture. You can't offer money, and you can't offer immediate success either.

Saints, Dogs, & even Carlton if they can maneuver their cap are the threats at present.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

a great way to absolutely butcher your cap.

LOL.

Geelong butchering its cap.

LOL.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

This might be the first time in a very long time Geelong might have to pay big $ to keep a player.

The incentive to stay always outweighed the prospect of leaving. So players were staying and coming accross for unders.
But now the side isn't as strong anymore, so it's not quite so advantageous.
I think Holmes will ask for a $ contract equal to those being offered.

Don't think the dollars will be an issue. We have like 3-4 significant players contracted for next year

 

[Obeanie1]

This might be the first time in a very long time Geelong might have to pay big $ to keep a player.

The incentive to stay always outweighed the prospect of leaving. So players were staying and coming accross for unders.
But now the side isn't as strong anymore, so it's not quite so advantageous.
I think Holmes will ask for a $ contract equal to those being offered.

Well if the Cats offer B Smith say $900k as the benchmark where does that leave Homes worth?

Would need to be at least similar?

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Seems like Holmes and his Manager see a way to make bank - good on them, he would need an AA year to be worth that much money IMO and I dont see that happening. There's always something you can do with cap rather than overpay, like frontloading to make crazy amounts of room later.

Geelong seemed to have a history of paying players what their worth or unders, never over, regardless of the cap situation. Happy for your club to join us pleb clubs on overpaying talent

He is very good. Solid chance of AA this season. Get him into your supercoach/DT.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Well if the Cats offer B Smith say $900k as the benchmark where does that leave Homes worth?

Would need to be at least similar?

Rumour is cats offer to Bailey is north of that

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Rumour is cats offer to Bailey is north of that

Cap bump + us having acres of cap space in the next couple years calms some of the concerns regarding Smith & Holmes' paypackets.

We rarely pay anyone big money at the best of times, and by next year we're going to have a list filled with kids who haven't signed big contracts yet, and veterans playing for minimum chips, with some role player types in between.

The only worry would be accounting for salary cap space in 2-3 years when a lot of the younger players go from promising to proven and actually command some $$$, but we'd be pretty moronic if we're not planning around that.

 

[perplexed]

LOL.

Geelong butchering its cap.

LOL.

Might work for Hawkins. But most players would prefer to be paid in money than meat trays.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Might work for Hawkins. But most players would prefer to be paid in money than meat trays.

No one deserves to read this garbage.

 

[The Nostradamus]

Might work for Hawkins. But most players would prefer to be paid in money than meat trays.

the old under the table deal

 

[My Tilly]

Maxy Holmes & Harley Reid are going to be a dynamic duo for the Cats in the coming years

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Might work for Hawkins. But most players would prefer to be paid in money than meat trays.

What about being paid in premierships?