Vic Melbourne's Sudanese gangs

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It's not just the white folk who're being terrorised you imbecile. The Vietnamese community (and others) are being attacked and have fought back themselves given how useless the police have been. Threatening to cut welfare payments is one suggestion, deportation is another. Andrews has done nothing but sat on his arse, and gangs continue to roam the streets. If that's your idea of a safe Melbourne that's fine, but most want action.

Ironically the Vic Police will probably act now a racial minority has been attacked. They'll have a taskforce on attacks on the Vietnamese community and KPIs on arrests.
 
Lots of Bogan white gangs when I grew up
Sharpies,and just regular bogans,ACDC fan types.
And I grew up up in the lovely leafy inner eastern suburbs under"a tough on crime" Liberal government

Goddamn, you just described me! Although today I'm wearing a Motorhead singlet. Looking at me, you'd think I was one of Howard's Battlers or Tony's Tradies but no.

You cannot judge a book by its cover. Not here, not anywhere.
 

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It's not just the white folk who're being terrorised you imbecile. The Vietnamese community (and others) are being attacked and have fought back themselves given how useless the police have been. Threatening to cut welfare payments is one suggestion, deportation is another. Andrews has done nothing but sat on his arse, and gangs continue to roam the streets. If that's your idea of a safe Melbourne that's fine, but most want action.
Their world view doesn’t make sense unless it’s white people being antagonised by a protected class.
 
Lots of Bogan white gangs when I grew up
Sharpies,and just regular bogans,ACDC fan types.
And I grew up up in the lovely leafy inner eastern suburbs under"a tough on crime" Liberal government
It’s fantastic you had trees in your suburb whilst growing up.
 
Wanna defend the notion that cutting of welfare payments is a viable solution to crime?
I never made an assertion of that kind. So unless you actually back up that assertion then you are either just making unfounded allegations and/or are unable to support the statement.
 
The history of Ireland says otherwise. Border reivers were imported from the Scottish border in the 1600s to act as local enforcers and supply immigrant labour.

it seems to be localised to the offspring of immigrants, rarely the adult immigrants themselves from what I can see.
Because adults who arrive here as 30-40 year olds are well past the age of peak criminality, which happens in the late teens and 20s. It’s the children and their children we have to live with.

As has been stated many times over, people from the backwards parts of Lebanon were imported 40 years ago, and it’s the grandchildren of these people that feature highly in support for terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism.

The idea that some cultures can be integrated seamlessly is as flawed as thinking you can bring democracy to the Middle East
 
The history of Ireland says otherwise. Border reivers were imported from the Scottish border in the 1600s to act as local enforcers and supply immigrant labour

Yeah, the great Ulster Plantation. They're the occupiers. It wouldn't matter if they were Buddhists or even fellow Catholics. They were occupiers representing a foreign Crown. The religious aspect to it looks bigger than it really was - several notable rebel leaders in the past were Protestant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Irish_nationalists

It's all about the refusal to bow to a foreign Crown.

Because adults who arrive here as 30-40 year olds are well past the age of peak criminality, which happens in the late teens and 20s. It’s the children and their children we have to live with.

As has been stated many times over, people from the backwards parts of Lebanon were imported 40 years ago, and it’s the grandchildren of these people that feature highly in support for terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism.

The idea that some cultures can be integrated seamlessly is as flawed as thinking you can bring democracy to the Middle East

Yeah, I can accept that there won't be seamless transition. Take a Somali or a South Sudanese or an Afghan, who have known only war and civil strife all their lives. Maybe they've scraped and scavenged and stolen to get by in the absence of local authority. Then they come to Australia. What happens? Chaos in their psyche. Women in short skirts showing cleavage! A large and boisterous drinking culture! Countless other stuff!

I realise this can be construed as reasons NOT to let refugees from war-torn nations into Australia, but maybe with a bit of psychological rehab and graduated integration (english lessons are paramount) they can eventually become functioning taxpayers giving back to the community.
 
If Australia is going to let people in who don’t agree with the social contract, why should we have a welfare state?
Is it ok for white Australians who don't agree with the social contract to stay here? Because if we're sending all violent criminals to Sudan then I might be on board, otherwise if we're selecting who stays and who goes based on skin colour then I think we might have a problem.
 
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You know, I’m not totally across the nuances, but I’m guessing Chelsea beach is the place groups of youths looking for trouble go
I grew up there and know it well. It's about a 10 minute drive from Frankston train station.

Many years ago I got the absolute shit kicked out of me by a group of footy players right on the foreshore, but some reason that never made the news. Can't for the life of me figure out why that is.

It's a rapidly gentrifying area but it's got a scummy element no doubt. I'm sure there's plenty of fights there that we'll never hear about.
 
The history of Ireland says otherwise. Border reivers were imported from the Scottish border in the 1600s to act as local enforcers and supply immigrant labour.


Because adults who arrive here as 30-40 year olds are well past the age of peak criminality, which happens in the late teens and 20s. It’s the children and their children we have to live with.

As has been stated many times over, people from the backwards parts of Lebanon were imported 40 years ago, and it’s the grandchildren of these people that feature highly in support for terrorism and Islamic fundamentalism.

The idea that some cultures can be integrated seamlessly is as flawed as thinking you can bring democracy to the Middle East

Ah, so we can stop religious people coming here?
 
I grew up there and know it well. It's about a 10 minute drive from Frankston train station.

Many years ago I got the absolute shit kicked out of me by a group of footy players right on the foreshore, but some reason that never made the news. Can't for the life of me figure out why that is.

It's a rapidly gentrifying area but it's got a scummy element no doubt. I'm sure there's plenty of fights there that we'll never hear about.

Some of the people quoted came from the lilydale rail corridor. Fruits of eastlink no doubt

I’m also thinking hard up jobless does not describe a lot of the people involved
 
I grew up there and know it well. It's about a 10 minute drive from Frankston train station.

Many years ago I got the absolute shit kicked out of me by a group of footy players right on the foreshore, but some reason that never made the news. Can't for the life of me figure out why that is.

It's a rapidly gentrifying area but it's got a scummy element no doubt. I'm sure there's plenty of fights there that we'll never hear about.

Would be some rough as guts white trash down there. That's why I think the Africans are game by playing up down there and why it could be a flashpoint.
 
I grew up there and know it well. It's about a 10 minute drive from Frankston train station.

Many years ago I got the absolute shit kicked out of me by a group of footy players right on the foreshore, but some reason that never made the news. Can't for the life of me figure out why that is.

It's a rapidly gentrifying area but it's got a scummy element no doubt. I'm sure there's plenty of fights there that we'll never hear about.
If you wanted to get bashed in my youth, you would head to the eastern suburbs beer barns,there would always be a large group of locals, who didnt like outsiders chasing their girls or just being there.
 
Yeah, the great Ulster Plantation. They're the occupiers. It wouldn't matter if they were Buddhists or even fellow Catholics. They were occupiers representing a foreign Crown. The religious aspect to it looks bigger than it really was - several notable rebel leaders in the past were Protestant

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protestant_Irish_nationalists

It's all about the refusal to bow to a foreign Crown.
The Irish Nationalists were happy to support King James post Restoration. It’s all about hating Prots, always has been.


Yeah, I can accept that there won't be seamless transition. Take a Somali or a South Sudanese or an Afghan, who have known only war and civil strife all their lives. Maybe they've scraped and scavenged and stolen to get by in the absence of local authority. Then they come to Australia. What happens? Chaos in their psyche. Women in short skirts showing cleavage! A large and boisterous drinking culture! Countless other stuff!

I realise this can be construed as reasons NOT to let refugees from war-torn nations into Australia, but maybe with a bit of psychological rehab and graduated integration (english lessons are paramount) they can eventually become functioning taxpayers giving back to the community.
They don’t even want to be educated - it is a losing battle. Check the figures for attendance of the state schools in the Flemington area. It’s a losing, fruitless battle.
 

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