Michael Clarke announces his retirement

[ManWithNoName]

Geez there are some uptight people about. Whatever Katich's true feelings are, both comments were made in light hearted manner. He was taling the piss, not having a go as his bitterness took over. ****s sake.

He's smart enough that he knew what he was doing.

 

[boncer34]

He's smart enough that he knew what he was doing.

Is there any actual evidence to base this on?

 

[ManWithNoName]

Is there any actual evidence to base this on?

That Katich is smart? Plenty.

 

[boncer34]

That Katich is smart? Plenty.

That he was doing what you suggest.

 

[King Elvis]

He told his side of the story, which he's entitled to do, and it's pretty obvious that he told it in a pretty reasonable fashion. He didn't insult or abuse Clarke, just explained what had happened - he could've been a real prick about it, but he wasn't.

 

[western royboy]

There's two distinct sides - people seem to be heavy in one camp or the other - time to lock the thread

 

[Snell1234]

Geez there are some uptight people about. Whatever Katich's true feelings are, both comments were made in light hearted manner. He was taling the piss, not having a go as his bitterness took over. ****s sake.

I don't know about you, but if I want to make light hearted comments about someone, I wouldn't joke about someone being a back stabber. His interviews on the ABC suggest that he still has a bone to pick with Clarke too.

 

[Snell1234]

There's two distinct sides - people seem to be heavy in one camp or the other - time to lock the thread

I'm probably somewhere in the middle. I'm happy to acknowledge that there may be a reason for the bitterness but also able to look at what motivate the bitterness at the same time. I'm also happy to admit I don't know the answer. You probably know more than the rest of us through your dealings with Cricket NSW. I gather you aren't really a Clarke fan and would be more in the Katich camp?

 

[STFU Donnie]

To be fair the man had his intl career ruined by Clarke.

Well within his rights to be bitter IMO.

That's one way of looking at it. Another is that he ruined his own career by throttling the man who was always going to be the next captain.

 

[STFU Donnie]

No he didn't. Clarke wasn't even a selector when Katich was dropped.

More to the point: Clarke wasn't even captain when Katich was dropped.

 

[The_Reaper]

More to the point: Clarke wasn't even captain when Katich was dropped.

That's interesting.

Like Katich was dropped in between series by which case it was pretty obvious that Ponting wasn't going to survive as Captain

 

[Stevi_Tigers]

this always made me laugh so katich got pissed that Clarke wanted to leave and bang his model mrs then stay and sing the song 99% of guys will pick a model

 

[Belnakor]

The way the Slater thing went down is a blackmark against Waugh, I can't see how anyone can dispute that. He was essentially dropped because his marriage fell apart.

slats was diagnosed with bipolar around the same time. he wasn't cut out to be playing test cricket at that point.

The Haurtiz dropping is still a mystery. There's been no real leaks regarding what on earth went on there.

thought he failed the no dickheads test

 

[The_Reaper]

slats was diagnosed with bipolar around the same time. he wasn't cut out to be playing test cricket at that point.



thought he failed the no dickheads test

There is more likely to be a no "not a dickhead" policy than the other way around.

Though Hussey playing as many tests as he did sort of disproves that

 

[aussiecricket]

More to the point: Clarke wasn't even captain when Katich was dropped.

Pretty sure Katich's contract was cut in June 2011, by which time Clarke had already been confirmed as Test captain (March 2011).

 

[Underarm]

Pretty sure Katich's contract was cut in June 2011, by which time Clarke had already been confirmed as Test captain (March 2011).

they get contracts for 1 year, and he had already been dropped 6 months before contract renewal.

 

[aussiecricket]

they get contracts for 1 year, and he had already been dropped 6 months before contract renewal.

Katich had an injured Achilles in Dec 2010, and was therefore unavailable for the rest of the Ashes. He was not dropped then.

 

[western royboy]

Close the thread - it's pointless it just goes round and round

 

[Hellgood]

Hauritz a dickhead? Where do people come up with this stuff? Quiet as a librarian and never felt his place in the side was remotely secure.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Hauritz is a great guy, you just needed to see him interact with the crowd on the boundary at any international fixture to know that. Great bantz.

 

[King Elvis]

this always made me laugh so katich got pissed that Clarke wanted to leave and bang his model mrs then stay and sing the song 99% of guys will pick a model

No way; 99% of dudes aren't whipped pussys.

 

[Super Hans]

No way; 99% of dudes aren't whipped pussys.

99% of dudes don't ever get the chance to smash a model.

 

[The_Reaper]

99% of dudes don't ever get the chance to smash a model.

I dunno. It is Lara Bingle you're talking about

 

[Spitta Andretti]

To be fair the man had his intl career ruined by Clarke.

Well within his rights to be bitter IMO.

No, he ruined it himself by being a 36 year old opening batsman who stopped scoring runs in a side which was humiliated at home by England; around about the same time a young sensation called Phil Hughes was scoring plenty of runs. Let's just fast forward to 2013/14, if England won that series convincingly, what do you think happens to Chris Rogers, especially if he hadn't scored too many runs? That's the end of his career. If you are an old player and you produce a decrepit performance in a heavy Ashes series defeat then you can have no complaints if your career is terminated right then and there on the spot. Nobody complained when Watto, Clarke, Haddin, and the other underperformers quit right after the most recent Ashes defeat.

All of Katich's whining to the contrary is just a selfish, deluded attempt to pass the buck: never his own fault, always somebody else's and playing the victim while provoking the 'crime' - the classic sign of somebody with an unstable and narcissistic personality; as evidenced by his inexcusable behaviour when he tried to strangle Michael Clarke, over a matter as earth-shaking as a team song.

 

[carnthemlions]

No, he ruined it himself by being a 36 year old opening batsman who stopped scoring runs in a side which was humiliated at home by England; around about the same time a young sensation called Phil Hughes was scoring plenty of runs. Let's just fast forward to 2013/14, if England won that series convincingly, what do you think happens to Chris Rogers, especially if he hadn't scored too many runs? That's the end of his career. If you are an old player and you produce a decrepit performance in a heavy Ashes series defeat then you can have no complaints if your career is terminated right then and there on the spot. Nobody complained when Watto, Clarke, Haddin, and the other underperformers quit right after the most recent Ashes defeat.

All of Katich's whining to the contrary is just a selfish, deluded attempt to pass the buck: never his own fault, always somebody else's and playing the victim while provoking the 'crime' - the classic sign of somebody with an unstable and narcissistic personality; as evidenced by his inexcusable behaviour when he tried to strangle Michael Clarke, over a matter as earth-shaking as a team song.

Rogers has said the same on several occasions- at that age you feel like you're under constant pressure and that you need top be one of the better players in the side in order to justify your selection over younger players.