Mitch Brown (WCE) asks for trade to St Kilda

[bruzaar62]

I think WC will do a deal for both Stevens and Brown...making a bit of noise atm to get their stocks up a bit,something like Wellingham for Brown and Stevens for Cripps would seem reasonable as would suit all players involved.
A lot of pumping up Mitch Browns tires on this thread,but watching several of his games for the Eagles this year he looked to lack confidence and to be the weakest link in their backline,a move back to Melbourne may assist him in recovering his form

 

[Such is life Ben]

I think calling him injury prone is a bit rich as well. Its not like hes Gumbleton, he did his knee a few years ago but has had some rotten luck more than any deficiencies in his body (eye injury, thumb etc).

 

[Allsainters66]

LOL not being in our best 22 is not the same as not being in St Kilda's best 22. Mitch Brown would probably be your #1 key defender if he was there now. At our club he is #3 behind Glass and MacKenzie and even further down the pecking order if you include Schofield.

St Kilda don't have the same quality as the Eagles... so the fact we have so much key position talent doesn't mean Mitch Brown lacks it.[/quote
He wouldn't be our #1 defender he would either be #2 or #3. We won't give up our goddard pick. It'll be cripps + pick 34 for brown. Which I think is a good deal.

 

[Such is life Ben]

I think WC will do a deal for both Stevens and Brown...making a bit of noise atm to get their stocks up a bit,something like Wellingham for Brown and Stevens for Cripps would seem reasonable as would suit all players involved.
A lot of pumping up Mitch Browns tires on this thread,but watching several of his games for the Eagles this year he looked to lack confidence and to be the weakest link in their backline,a move back to Melbourne may assist him in recovering his form

Weakest link behind Glass, McKenzie and Schofield aint so bad. You obviously missed the game where he played well on Buddy.

 

[Allsainters66]

Ohh stupid forum ! This is what I was going to say:
Brown wouldnt be our #1 defender he would be either #2 or #3. We won't give up our Goddard pick. It'll be cripps + pick 34 for brown. Which I think is a good deal.

 

[bruzaar62]

Weakest link behind Glass, McKenzie and Schofield aint so bad. You obviously missed the game where he played well on Buddy.[/qu,Pav kicked 8 on him in the last derby and his early season WAFL form didnt really scream out.....pick me pick me although his last couple of games for EFreo were pretty good

 

[pantskyle]

Ohh stupid forum ! This is what I was going to say:
Brown wouldnt be our #1 defender he would be either #2 or #3. We won't give up our Goddard pick. It'll be cripps + pick 34 for brown. Which I think is a good deal.

He would be your number 1.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Ohh stupid forum ! This is what I was going to say:
Brown wouldnt be our #1 defender he would be either #2 or #3. We won't give up our Goddard pick. It'll be cripps + pick 34 for brown. Which I think is a good deal.

He would be your number 1 Key defender.

Your coach said as much on WA radio last night

 

[Allsainters66]

He would be your number 1.

Lol is Mitch brown better than Sam fisher? No

 

[pantskyle]

Lol is Mitch brown better than Sam fisher? No

I don't know. Ask your Coach.

 

[Tulip]

Whether West Coast like it or not, and while all players develop at different rates for a variety of reasons, Brown is entering his 7th year of football without consolidating a Best 22 position.

Ben Reid (8), James Frawley (12), Jack Riewoldt (13) and Tom Hawkins (F/S) are all KPP's who've been AA in that class.

Nathan Brown (10), Chris Dawes (28) , Eric MacKenzie (29), Kurt Tippett (32) and Michael Jamison (Rookie) have established themselves as KPP's at their club.

Brown will be class at St Kilda, and he'll be worth more to West Coast than they get, but its pretty difficult to stand in his way of a spot as a first defender.

Cripps and a Pick around 30-40 should do IMO.

 

[Sammy J]

If we don't get what we want, we won't trade him though. We are under no obligation to do so - he is a contracted and required player.

Cripps, although also homesick and seeking more opportunity, likely won't be in our best 22 next year anyway. Plus we have plenty of players of his ilk in our squad already. Brown is basically our lone backup KPD. That alone gives him a premium to our list. If the Saints really, really want him - they're gonna have to come to the party with a pretty nice offer. He's not uncontracted, this is not a Wellingham scenario. Either that - or they have to wait a year and have another crack in trade period/free agency 2013.

 

[TommyJay]

Lol is Mitch brown better than Sam fisher? No

They're different. Fisher is best when he sweeps along the back line giving us an extra defender for a tall if we need it, whilst giving us good rebounding out of the back line. Without a pure full back, he's forced to play one on one with big forwards, which really limits what he is able to do going the other way.

Fisher is definitely a better player than Mitch Brown. But having Brown taking the monster forwards allows Fisher to play the game he is best at, rather than wasting his talent stuck in the goal square.

So when Watters says he's the number one defender, he'd be right. That certainly doesn't mean he's the best player in the back line though, it means he's more one dimensional, and will be the 'gorilla' backman that Watters has been talking about all year.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Whether West Coast like it or not, and while all players develop at different rates for a variety of reasons, Brown is entering his 7th year of football without consolidating a Best 22 position.

Ben Reid (8), James Frawley (12), Jack Riewoldt (13) and Tom Hawkins (F/S) are all KPP's who've been AA in that class.

Nathan Brown (10), Chris Dawes (28) , Eric MacKenzie (29), Kurt Tippett (32) and Michael Jamison (Rookie) have established themselves as KPP's at their club.

Brown will be class at St Kilda, and he'll be worth more to West Coast than they get, but its pretty difficult to stand in his way of a spot as a first defender.

Cripps and a Pick around 30-40 should do IMO.

Whether any other club like it or not - Mitch Brown is contracted.

Expecting us to simply roll over is fanciful. We have stated he is a required player, St Kilda are desperate for him, he is contracted to us. Which part of that requires us to pander to the whims of another club?

 

[Tulip]

Whether any other club like it or not - Mitch Brown is contracted.

Expecting us to simply roll over is fanciful. We have stated he is a required player, St Kilda are desperate for him, he is contracted to us. Which part of that requires us to pander to the whims of another club?

Pandering to the whims of the player more than the club. He wants to go home, he's not Best 22 and Cripps is a really exciting prospect.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

Pandering to the whims of the player more than the club. He wants to go home, he's not Best 22 and Cripps is a really exciting prospect.

Since when have clubs pandered to the whims of players?

The whole point of FA was to start giving players the power back.

WC aren't doing anything other than expecting Brown to fulfill his contract.

Expecting us to take compensation less than a player is worth to us is fanciful. If he was uncontracted, that may well be the case.

There are three parties to the negotiation - and one holds all the power.

 

[Such is life Ben]

Pandering to the whims of the player more than the club. He wants to go home, he's not Best 22 and Cripps is a really exciting prospect.

Thats great but we have a greater need for KPDs than HFFs/HBBs so maybe we will just see out our contracts unless the price is right.

 

[Royals]

We can hold out for overs for Brown, no need to do anything rash.

 

[TommyJay]

Since when have clubs pandered to the whims of players?

The whole point of FA was to start giving players the power back.

WC aren't doing anything other than expecting Brown to fulfill his contract.

Expecting us to take compensation less than a player is worth to us is fanciful. If he was uncontracted, that may well be the case.

There are three parties to the negotiation - and one holds all the power.

This is assuming the Eagles are happy to have a player on their list who categorically does not want to be there. They may. Would be poor football management, though. That's why when players want out, their club normally just trades them. Club's aren't stupid. Can't always say the same about supporters, though.

 

[The Falcon Strike]

This is assuming the Eagles are happy to have a player on their list who categorically does not want to be there. They may. Would be poor football management, though. That's why when players want out, their club normally just trades them. Club's aren't stupid. Can't always say the same about supporters, though.

There has been many examples where player trades have fallen over and players stay a further year at least at the club - if not longer.

Mitch Brown doesn't hate the club, nor does he loathe being part of west coast - there is no toxic hate. Winning the best clubman award would be testament to that.

He would simply like more opportunity and has been offered that by St Kilda and has expressed a desire to go there. Simply standing our ground isn't going to fester a whole heap of hatred.

St Kilda are the one's desperate to obtain him. They are the ones who have offered a lucrative 3 year deal to a contacted player to get his hopes up - it is now encumbent upon them to find a suitable trade to get the job done - there is no expectation on WC at all.

 

[pantskyle]

Whether West Coast like it or not, and while all players develop at different rates for a variety of reasons, Brown is entering his 7th year of football without consolidating a Best 22 position.

Ben Reid (8), James Frawley (12), Jack Riewoldt (13) and Tom Hawkins (F/S) are all KPP's who've been AA in that class.

Nathan Brown (10), Chris Dawes (28) , Eric MacKenzie (29), Kurt Tippett (32) and Michael Jamison (Rookie) have established themselves as KPP's at their club.

Brown will be class at St Kilda, and he'll be worth more to West Coast than they get, but its pretty difficult to stand in his way of a spot as a first defender.

Cripps and a Pick around 30-40 should do IMO.

But it won't do it.

 

[pantskyle]

Saints were pretty silly making offers to contracted players that they can't get.

 

[Belnakor]

We can hold out for overs for Brown, no need to do anything rash.

Against the risk you don't do a deal and then next year he walks for nothing

 

[pantskyle]

Against the risk you don't do a deal and then next year he walks for nothing

He can't walk for nothing not unless he wants to play for GC or GWS.

 

[Royals]

There is always a risk and im not saying dont do a deal this year but dont give him away cheap. We would only get nothing for him next year , if he went into PSD . Okeefe at Sydney is pretty good example that it doesnt always have to be doom and gloom