Mitch McGovern (please read OP)

[Sanders]

Shepard's pie, man!

*shepherd’s pie

 

[Morning_Fog]

Unless GC are set on drafting Lukosius (and assuming GC get pick #3 as Lynch compo and no pick #2/#4 PPs), maybe they can work on a daisy chain trade with GC that allows Blues to get Walsh, Gov and satisfy Crows with something like:

Gov to CFC ...
AFC pick #8 to GC ... AFC 2019 r1 pick to GC ...
CFC 2019 r1 pick to GC ...
GC pick #2 to AFC

Would actually prefer something like:

Gov to CFC ...
AFC pick #8 to GC ... AFC 2019 r1 pick to GC ...
CFC 2019 r1 pick to GC ... CFC pick #1 to AFC ...
GC pick #2 to CFC

since if AFC want Lukosius and CFC want Walsh, it shouldn't matter whether it's pick #1 or #2 but Crows paying so much should get a guarantee of Lukosius.

We give up McGovern, pick 8 and a pick between 6 and 18. We are giving up way too much.

 

[jezzajay]

I did.

Google thinks you’re shit

Good on ya.

 

[headache1]

Who is “we”?

I'm assuming "we" is referring to the collection of morons on their board who actually believe their opinion has some kind of relevance to Carlton's interest in McGovern.

 

[GrommoT]

Personally, I'd take that, and it ensures a good result for all parties, and you're not out of this draft either after Luko with Melbourne's first.

Would be a magnificent haul if Adelaide could pull it off.

Can you forward that to SOS?

 

[Sanders]

In this case, depending on which part of my post you're referring, either Carlton or its fans.

So, whichever suits what you were about to say anyway.

Interesting that you think you’re able to speak on behalf of both.

Particularly as you are not

 

[Red mist]

If we had a way healthier playing list I’d agree.

You’re not knobbled by the health of your list put the people that are running it.

 

[GrommoT]

We give up McGovern, pick 8 and a pick between 6 and 18. We are giving up way too much.

Might have to if we want Lukosius.

Ok, maybe we try to use a 2019 r2 pick instead.

 

[Sanders]

... yes?

If you're making a veiled McGovern reference there, I've made my position on him rather clear across my posts in here, feel free to peruse at your leisure.

I don’t actually care about your position, I don’t know you from aunty Gladys

I do care about facts and the misrepresentation of them

 

[Sanders]

I'm assuming "we" is referring to the collection of morons on their board who actually believe their opinion has some kind of relevance to Carlton's interest in McGovern.

Correct weight

 

[Morning_Fog]

Might have to if we want Lukosius.

I understand the increased value for Lukosius but that’s over the top.

McGovern and a pick between 10 and 16 would be enough for a pick between 2 and 5

 

[Anzacpaul]

Unless GC are set on drafting Lukosius (and assuming GC get pick #3 as Lynch compo and no pick #2/#4 PPs), maybe they can work on a daisy chain trade with GC that allows Blues to get Walsh, Gov and satisfy Crows with something like:

Gov to CFC ...
AFC pick #8 to GC ... AFC 2019 r1 pick to GC ...
CFC 2019 r1 pick to GC ...
GC pick #2 to AFC

Would actually prefer something like:

Gov to CFC ...
AFC pick #8 to GC ... AFC 2019 r1 pick to GC ...
CFC 2019 r1 pick to GC ... CFC pick #1 to AFC ...
GC pick #2 to CFC

since if AFC want Lukosius and CFC want Walsh, it shouldn't matter whether it's pick #1 or #2 but Crows paying so much should get a guarantee of Lukosius.

Gold coast make out like absolute bandits in those deals. Lose pick 2 and end up with 3 first rounders with one likely to be 1 or 2 next year.

 

[Anzacpaul]

Have been hearing Carlton are getting pick 2 as a PP for playing in China for the next 3 years...

Surely not possible. Vic media and clubs heads would explode.

 

[Gethelred]

Can you forward that to SOS?

I'll check my email contacts, but someone would have to get onto GC.

 

[Gethelred]

*shepherd’s pie

I'd trust the colonel to know a bit about fake potato...

 

[GrommoT]

Gold coast make out like absolute bandits in those deals. Lose pick 2 and end up with 3 first rounders with one likely to be 1 or 2 next year.

It's effectively Crows paying two mid r1 pick (#8 & Gov) and a late r1 pick (hopefully) for Lukosius.

We have to pay the value ... plus some carrot to make a club wanna do it.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Pick #27 Zac Fisher goes alright... try again.

one from how many picks .....very low % ....but i can understand your excitement, with this outcome

 

[Gethelred]

Interesting that you think you’re able to speak on behalf of both.

Particularly as you are not

Sure.

Just like when you refer to a contracted player, you're not in possession of all the information with regards to his mindset, his attitude, his life (the other factors which could affect a trade) etc

I'm curious, though. You keep replying to me, and you seem to be rather interested in nitpicking rather than actually addressing anything of substance. Beyond a certain point, communication is meaningless unless both parties can agree to take each other at face value. I understand that I'm a visitor to your board, but I don't understand your apathy for conversation.

I'm basing what I'm saying on what I've read from the Carlton board on BF. You can discount that however you like, and you no doubt will, but if you're willing to label that as worthless I really do wonder whether you'd throw stones in glass houses too.

 

[Gethelred]

I'm assuming "we" is referring to the collection of morons on their board who actually believe their opinion has some kind of relevance to Carlton's interest in McGovern.

Or, alternatively, the initial post I quoted spoke directly of Carlton fans being excessively interested in McGovern, when that's not really the case.

 

[jezzajay]

You’re not knobbled by the health of your list put the people that are running it.

Yeah fair enough.
You would see our medical/fitness dept is called out a lot on our forum - not going unnoticed. And from what I understand Lloyd has highlighted this as a priority for him.
Sorry...bit off topic.

 

[jezzajay]

one from how many picks .....very low % ....but i can understand your excitement, with this outcome

Too be honest it’s the only one that came to mind without really thinking...my recollection of drafts isn’t great. I find the whole thing a bit of a lottery more than a science...if you know what I mean..

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

SOS is the BOSS you guys should know better than anyone

I'm so envious of the list he has put together. Reid & Haggis must really be looking up to SOS lol!

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

...is Josh Kelly worth more than Christian Salem + Dom Tyson?

Are you working for us or against us...

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

For McGovern to get to Carlton, they will need to trade pick 1 to get some greater assets.

I think they will need to somehow get their hands on the Gold Coasts Pick 2 and 3 if they want both Walsh and McGovern.

Their 2019 first round pick might even have to be chucked onto the table as well.

If Carlton traded pick #1 to GC for say pick #2 & pick #3 which they give us for Gov, GC would either pick Luko or Walsh... So one of us would miss out. Rankine would be a given though.

 

[Morning_Fog]

If Carlton traded pick #1 to GC for say pick #2 & pick #3 which they give us for Gov, GC would either pick Luko or Walsh... So one of us would miss out. Rankine would be a given though.

Why would their drafting strategy change?

I don’t think they take Welsh or Lukosius based on the go home factor.