That won't matter though if he wants back to SA and says Port - they will then have to take what port have. It would be nice to see them fail to replace Butters properly if he leaves as he is one of the big 3 they have and lose one and everything gets much much harder
Butters & f2* for NWM & Philipou, who says no?
Port probably, they'd probably want a first rounder too
Saints say a definitive no IMO. Why give up possibly their 2 most likely elite young players for a player they can get for FREE trade wise if they pay big $$$ (which they have and apparently chasing others hard with massive coin once they are FA like Weitering reported 12m over 8 years - once he is a FA and not before). For Butters, if they wait one more year (end of 2026), then they have all 3, rather than just one player.
Well I very politely asked about this trade on Saints board, and their more rational, non-abusive responses that I can quote include the following. Fair to say they would say universally categorically say #### off with this proposal. Possibly not the most objective source (passionate BF fans) but it is a shocking deal for Saints IMHO
I’ve made the mistake of visiting their board once.
Well, most of those responses are pretty clueless.
Not so sure about that given the work we put into him and his family lin the weeks leading up to the draft according to TMS who was a regular source of inside info from within the 4 walls of the club until a certain Fried Chicken purveyor burnt him off.
With respect we don't really care what Richmond do.
I was just enforcing my opinion that the crows list is better than being in the bottom bracket and I think you’ll not end in a position that would enable the crows to be an early pick.
We pretty much all think the same as you, but we can dream can't we? Also being able to trade picks from two years into the future means we might be able to trade up far enough if he falls away from the top 3 or so picks.
Crows 2025 1st + (which player) for Richmond's 2025 1st?
I hadn’t really thought about it and speculative scenarios about the value of our first pick, based on Richmond winning the spoon again is likely to cause you and others to call me some not so pleasant names. Followed by a Get F’d and F’off statement. All I’ll say is Richmond would listen to offers from the crows and other clubs. Could be your first and 2026 first. I have no clue. What player would you offer up for pick 1.
We've got too many tall defenders so one would be on the block I imagine at the end of 2025. Whether that's enough to entice a club to downgrade their 1st might depend on where we finish
The only way we'd do that is if they wanted to go.
True but if we're going to land a Dyson Sharp it won't be by continuing standard business
Finishing low on the ladder sadly seems to be continuing business.
This is why it’s difficult to trade up for a very early pick, especially #1. Richmond would want a top line player and the crows rightfully would be very reluctant to let a Soligo or Rachelle go. Is sharp really worth that cost? I doubt it. He’s not Harley Reid. Is he that much better than the next two or three top selections?
