Moira Deeming v John Pesutto
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Victorian Opposition Leader John Pesutto calls new vote to readmit Moira Deeming
Two days after declaring the issue was done and dusted, Victorian opposition leader John Pesutto has called a meeting to discuss readmitting exiled MP Moira Deeming to the Parliamentary Liberal Party.
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I'm wondering, did John Pesutto decide to bring in a new vote on January 15 after being told to do so by federal Opposition Leader Peter Dutton?
So she can twist the knife in his back much closer within the LNP party room rather than from afar.
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LMFAO!
He got sued for talking shyte.
He could've kicked Deeming out without talking shyte.
Instead, he chose to falsely impugn her character.
Then he was offered 100k to make this go away, and he declined.
It may end up costing him many millions.
Then he failed to read the room and apologise.
Quite seriously, Pesutto may have the worst judgement of any politician I can think of. How many poor judgements can he make?!??!
I totally agree that he can't be accused of fence sitting here. He's stubbornly held to his position. But, he's guilty of monstrously poor judgement under pressure. Which is far worse than being either a fence sitter or a "conviction politician". And ultimately it's why he'll lose his job.
110% spot on
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None, because they are both irrelevant as individual parties
The pressure over this decision has proven too much and the pipsqueak will be looking at another job sooner rather than later. It's hard to imagine someone worse than Dan the man and Jacinta in Victoria, but Pesutto has had a hold my beer moment. He must go! Victoria is a very strange place in 2024.
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Very likely. Or federal Liberal machine anyway.
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Question from someone living in another state.
What's actually wrong with the current leadership in Victoria? I mean I know like all Labor Governments they are in the pocket of the unions and some Captain Hindsights have residual hate from the hard lockdown during COVID but apart from that the state seems to be running ok. Surely Victoria is in better hands than they would be with even a moderate Liberal Government let alone one run by the religious nutters?
Declaration - I'm not a Labor voter, normally vote Green.
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It's not just Jacinta Allen who is happy about the mess that is going on within the Liberal Party in Victoria, PM Anthony Albanese must think his Christmas has come 3 days earlier. But at least the Liberals has only Allen to deal with, because what would've happened if Daniel Andrews was still Premier?
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People are just pissing their pants over the level of debt, while ignoring that the debt was pretty much all put into productive infrastructure like the Metro Tunnel, level crossing removals and new hospitals. Those will all add massively to economic growth in the next decade.
Personally I love a government that's willing to invest a dollar today to make two dollars tomorrow, but a lot of people have been told by the relentless mass media campaign that they're all headed for disaster, famine and pestilence under Labor. I do think SRL has been more politically useful than practically useful, and they should have focused more on the airport rail link instead, but it's leaps and bounds ahead of the Liberal Party who don't seem to like investing in public assets at all.
It's mostly 'the debt' campaign being run relentlessly - but we seem to be in something of a Ponzi scheme. Most of the state's economy is currently being driven by population growth, which then requires additional infrastructure, which requires taking on further debt, which requires economic/population growth to sustain it etc.
If Metro Tunnel and other projects pay back their investments in spades it'll work out. But until then, they have to front up to the pressures it places elsewhere - on housing especially where they face criticism from the left on public housing, and the right from Briiiighton NIMBYs.
The beautiful thing about the Metro Tunnel is that it enables a huge increase in density in the inner suburbs. This is a good thing because the cost of providing infrastructure in an infill area and to apartments is a lot lower per person than doing the same in a low-density outer suburb like Tarneit (to say nothing of the lower environmental impact too). The roads are already in place, the utilities are easier to connect because entirely new distribution networks aren't required, garbage is cheaper to pick up, etc. Plus, there aren't enough rich NIMBYs around to complain like there are in Brighton. But the benefits won't be seen for a few years yet.
Where I think Allan's development strategy is flawed is she seems insistent on unlocking new land at the edge of Greater Melbourne for low-density sprawl too. She ought to can that and tell people to go regional if they want the Australian Dream of a quarter acre block at a reasonable price (and invest to make sure that's available). But that's me talking as a planning professional, the public don't care about that so long as their children can afford a place to live.
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People are NOT just pissing their pants over the level of debt; they are pissed off about the cuts in services across the state - road maintenance, health, police Law & order. They are pissed off about the lack of transparency, about the deals done with the CFMEU, and the are pissed off about being treated like mushrooms.
And I bet you will be the first to bitch about The Shrine of Remembrance holding corporate functions at the shrine to make ends meet because the government cut off its life line
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What will be the best and worst case scenario for the Liberals in Victoria on Friday with the leadership spill?
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I heard some analysis by a state political commentator today.
Jess Wilson is a moderate whereas Brad Batten is more conservative. He has more experience, but Wilson will appeal to more people.
Wilson is 34 years old comes with no baggage and already has an impressive CV. It will be out of these two, with Sam Groth unlikely to poll well enough within.
Whatever happens, Pessutto is finished as leader.
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The only way John Pesutto can survive as Liberal leader on Friday is that if Peter Dutton intervenes to resolve the issue by ordering the rebel Liberal MPs to get behind Pesutto or suffer the consequences of watching weak Labor governments both in Victoria and at federal levels retain power.
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I won't be voting Libs if Moira comes back and JP gets knifed.
As though the Liberals will make those things better, particularly health.
The Liberals do this too, just substitute "the CFMEU" with "big business".
I don't give a rat's arse what they do with the Shrine. They can hold a function for foot fetishists there for all I care.
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Why? Would you ordinarily vote Liberal?
Yes I'd vote Liberal and have done so since day dot.
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There's nothing wrong. It's still Australia's most livable city. Up until the global pandemic, every budget they ran was cash flow positive. It just media noise attempting to influence politics as usual.
