Roast Move on Geelong.

[fishardansin]

Bloody hell you are a bunch of bitter bitter losers. Everyone knew Thompson had "family issues" and he has left a very stressful job to be just full time. He is on at least the same money.

I'm pretty sure the contact with "Essendon people" was a few phone calls between him and Tim Watson. Tim Watson may have been suggesting to him that there will be a job there at the end of the year. No doubt he'd hear whispering at least from Jobe. Of course Tim is not involved in the club in an official way at all.

Also seems pretty clear that Thompson wasn't sure about doing it either until the day he turned up at training and told Hird "lets do this".

Geelong should show some gratitude for the hard work he put into developing their players. There have been many players with more talent then a lot of their list that have gone on to nothing. He stuck by them and wore a lot of flack from idiots like Newman in the press. He also worked hard to drive up their membership. Apparently he would call ex members himself while driving to Geelong each day.

By doing all these things he grew that club and they have been wonderfully successful. Yet they still carry on like sooky little poo heads.

It was a courageous decision by him to walk away and the right one for his family. His heart wasn't in it any more and the easiest thing for him to have done was take the money and do a half hearted job. He made the right call for him, you can tell how refreshed he looks these days, and the right call for Geelong, their re-invigoration and success should make that clear.

On top of that just because there is no living memory of an ex-Geelong player coaching another club they don't understand the "go home" pull Essendon would also have had on Thompson. The reason there is none is because you were always laughed at as, well, pussies. Now thanks to the way he helped turn your club around most people would expect there will be at least one coach out of that team. Harley, Ling, Bartel, Corey and Milburn will probably all end up at least assistants.

Then you'll understand.

Until then you can all GAGF!!!!!

Here is the article that started my rant!!

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bomber-hit-for-6-20110627-1gnh7.html

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Bloody hell you are a bunch of bitter bitter losers. Everyone knew Thompson had "family issues" and he has left a very stressful job to be just full time. He is on at least the same money.

I'm pretty sure the contact with "Essendon people" was a few phone calls between him and Tim Watson. Tim Watson may have been suggesting to him that there will be a job there at the end of the year. No doubt he'd hear whispering at least from Jobe. Of course Tim is not involved in the club in an official way at all.

Also seems pretty clear that Thompson wasn't sure about doing it either until the day he turned up at training and told Hird "lets do this".

Geelong should show some gratitude for the hard work he put into developing their players. There have been many players with more talent then a lot of their list that have gone on to nothing. He stuck by them and wore a lot of flack from idiots like Newman in the press. He also worked hard to drive up their membership. Apparently he would call ex members himself while driving to Geelong each day.

By doing all these things he grew that club and they have been wonderfully successful. Yet they still carry on like sooky little poo heads.

It was a courageous decision by him to walk away and the right one for his family. His heart wasn't in it any more and the easiest thing for him to have done was take the money and do a half hearted job. He made the right call for him, you can tell how refreshed he looks these days, and the right call for Geelong, their re-invigoration and success should make that clear.

On top of that just because there is no living memory of an ex-Geelong player coaching another club they don't understand the "go home" pull Essendon would also have had on Thompson. The reason there is none is because you were always laughed at as, well, pussies. Now thanks to the way he helped turn your club around most people would expect there will be at least one coach out of that team. Harley, Ling, Bartel, Corey and Milburn will probably all end up at least assistants.

Then you'll understand.

Until then you can all GAGF!!!!!

Here is the article that started my rant!!

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/bomber-hit-for-6-20110627-1gnh7.html

from a supporter perspective, we dont care the slightest, infact we are happy he left when he did, it was clearly time to go, the way he had the team playing was below par, the game plan was out of date and could have cost us the 10 flag, we are over the moon with the change of coach this season and by no means would want thompson having the job over chris scott, we havent looked back and missed thompson the slightest

maybe from a internal perspective things are different, obviously the relationships he had from people who knew him personally such as players coaches staff management ect is a completely different story and nobody can really be in a position on this site to make accurate comments about that because we can only assume what those relationships where like

but purely from a supporters perspective, not one of us at all is upset that he is gone, we have improved out of sight this year and the change was needed, were sitting 1st on the ladder after 14 rounds undefeated, there isnt much doubt that if thompson was still coaching this wouldnt be the case at all

but clearly since this is the week we are playing essendon, of course it will get brought up and cycled about by the media, but dont take it as some form of geelong emotions being the sole culprate, the media had it penciled in to be regurgitated up from day one of the fixture when we met

 

[AtomicBlonde]

^Hmm, maybe more happy now with the way the season has panned out than let's say around six months ago?

Seriously though, to hear Frank Costa give one of his more recent interviews this year and still harbour bitterness towards what went on just reeks of you know what. Everyone has the right to better themselves and change the course of their life if they feel things aren't going so well. That is all he did, contract or no contract.

If he had of stayed and the team hit a slump, guess what the media would be talking about every week of the H&A season? He saw the writing on the wall and got out before he could have had any negative influence on the playing group. If only more coaches would have done that over the years...

 

[geelong_crazy26]

^Hmm, maybe more happy now with the way the season has panned out than let's say around six months ago?

Seriously though, to hear Frank Costa give one of his more recent interviews this year and still harbour bitterness towards what went on just reeks of you know what. Everyone has the right to better themselves and change the course of their life if they feel things aren't going so well. That is all he did, contract or no contract.

If he had of stayed and the team hit a slump, guess what the media would be talking about every week of the H&A season? He saw the writing on the wall and got out before he could have had any negative influence on the playing group. If only more coaches would have done that over the years...

first part, yes of course we are a lot happier now than six months ago, he was a fantastic coach and got us two premierships, but in hindsight 2010 was probably past his expiry date with us, but at the time we where quite devistated for such a great servant of the club to move on

second part, i dont think from the sounds of it that frank costa was upset with what his decision was, but the way he went about doing it was what upset him.

 

[Slattery_20]

Eh, if they want to obsess, good on them. We should hardly be relevant to them in terms of ladder position. Might be the difference between losing by 9 goals and 10 this week.

Bomber repaid Costa et al with as much faith & honesty as they showed him in 2006 or whatever it was.

 

[Slattery_20]

from a supporter perspective, we dont care the slightest

Quick look at the match preview thread would suggest otherwise, plenty of 'show Thompson what should've happened last year' and 'noteworthy game'(huh? You're 1st with 12 straight, we're out of finals on 5 straight losses? that's noteworthy in what other way??) sort of stuff.

And the Cats supporters jumping in gleefully to every MB essendon thread, again, would suggest otherwise.

 

[krisholio14]

I don't need a gimmick like this one to enjoy smashing you

 

[Jesse Custer]

Why are we even talking about then?

Geelong don't need a reason to smash us.

 

[winty]

Eh, if they want to obsess, good on them. We should hardly be relevant to them in terms of ladder position. Might be the difference between losing by 9 goals and 10 this week.

Bomber repaid Costa et al with as much faith & honesty as they showed him in 2006 or whatever it was.

I think you'll find it was Cook and Costa who actually went in to bat for Thompson in 2006. It was the rest of the board who wanted him sacked.

As for the review they did, the end result of it was actually making Thompson's job easier by bringing in people to help him and let him focus on what he was there for - coaching - rather than looking after the entire football and fitness departments and 1001 other things he was doing that had nothing to do with his job description.

 

[Slattery_20]

Two sides to a story, he has held some mixed feelings, at best, since, certainly towards Cook if not Costa.
I read it that he always felt the 'player empowerment' undercut him, and Cook had the knives out, and then when the players basically resisted the changes he wanted to wring last year, that was the final straw.

 

[winty]

Two sides to a story, he has held some mixed feelings, at best, since, certainly towards Cook if not Costa.
I read it that he always felt the 'player empowerment' undercut him, and Cook had the knives out, and then when the players basically resisted the changes he wanted to wring last year, that was the final straw.

Spot on about the two sides to every story. I highly doubt his claims that the players resisted any supposed changes he wanted to bring in last year. Here was a guy who sat on his hands while Hawthorn ran away with the 2008 flag and hardly made any changes on the day whatsoever. I can only think of two. He moved Stokes off Hodge in the 2nd term and put Rooke on him, who curtailed him somewhat, but for some reason after half time he put Stokes back on Hodge, who carved us up. I doubt he wanted to change things up last year, simply because he didn't know how to. If you look at Geelong games pre 2007, we were always pretty attacking. The only things we changed was we played on a bit more, handballed a bit more, and attacked through the corridor more. It wasn't like he radically overhauled the game plan during summer in 2006.

 

[Slattery_20]

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/a...mber-coach-a-lot/story-fn82ygi6-1226081981496

His comments suggesting the players hadn't embraced a change to the game plan after the preliminary final loss to Collingwood last year raised some eyebrows. He'd clearly lost a bit of faith in our style, but the players had total faith in it.

We thought as a playing group it would be tough to flirt with what had been so successful and attempt to introduce a whole new game plan late in the season.

We backed ourselves with what had served us so well, but it just wasn't good enough.

This illustrates the point beautifully though: this is where we will (probably always) disagree, I would take the comments Thompson made (even before Bartel corroborated) at face value and view Cook's outbursts as those of someone who knew he'd lost a good person; you will tend to side with those who are left @ Geelong.

Of course he made mistakes in 2008; I think it'd be naive & hugely under-rating the bloke to suggest he'd be as arrogant as to not see any need to change whatsoever and blithely make the same mistakes again.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Quick look at the match preview thread would suggest otherwise, plenty of 'show Thompson what should've happened last year' and 'noteworthy game'(huh? You're 1st with 12 straight, we're out of finals on 5 straight losses? that's noteworthy in what other way??) sort of stuff.

And the Cats supporters jumping in gleefully to every MB essendon thread, again, would suggest otherwise.

wells lets be honest, it isnt the most exciting match day discussion for us, this week is the only week the thompson story would be relevant to bring up, nobody in their right mind at geelong would want thompson back after the success scott has had, thompson was well overdue to leave when he did, i think he had passed the useby date in many ways

 

[daffo]

Why is this being brought up again?

 

[Slattery_20]

wells lets be honest, it isnt the most exciting match day discussion for us

Probably true.

nobody in their right mind at geelong would want thompson back after the success scott has had

Good point, Thompson achieved nothing.

thompson was well overdue to leave when he did, i think he had passed the useby date in many ways

Would certainly appear so, the players believed they didn't need his input.

 

[Partridge]

Eh, if they want to obsess, good on them. We should hardly be relevant to them in terms of ladder position. Might be the difference between losing by 9 goals and 10 this week.

Bomber repaid Costa et al with as much faith & honesty as they showed him in 2006 or whatever it was.

Don't know about that. If you mean the internal review I'd argue Thompson was lucky to even have a job afterwards. If I was Costa and Cook that's exactly what I would have told him too. His job was to coach the team, not preach to his superiors how to do things (to be fair, he's not the first coach to think like that).

As has already been mentioned, I don't think anyone was devastated that he left, it's how he did it. To bitch and moan all year about loyalty to Ablett and then do the same thing yourself is grossly hypocritical. However, it's footy, and it always has and always will happen.

Anyway, he's gone, so be it, hopefully we can get a win this week.

 

[DapperDon]

Why is this being brought up again?

The media have been waiting all year for this match, It would have been brought up if we played in round 1, or round 22. They would have been sitting on quotes for months trying to get something out of anything.

 

[Macca18]

This has been done to death. Over it. Both Essendon & Geelong are over it.

Geelong will do their annual thing to us anyway. A few overly optimistic supporters will declare we are a chance only for the game to be over at Half Time and then the Cats to piss on our remains in the second half. They don't need any Mark Thompson extra motivation to do that, they're already superior to us in all facets.

 

[Slattery_20]

As has already been mentioned, I don't think anyone was devastated that he left, it's how he did it. To bitch and moan all year about loyalty to Ablett and then do the same thing yourself is grossly hypocritical.

Agree, coaches shouldn't try and retain their best players for the club. What was he thinking. Since he apparently knew from about 2004 he was leaving; he should have only thought about himself - and not cared at all about Ablett.

I think he did the right thing by your club, by doing his utmost to get a signature or at least an answer from Gary, even if it meant looking like a prick in the media, which I think it's clear he's not worried about.
That he was leaving doesn't change that it was the right thing to do, even if it was hypocritical.

 

[Slattery_20]

This has been done to death. Over it. Both Essendon & Geelong are over it.

Geelong will do their annual thing to us anyway. A few overly optimistic supporters will declare we are a chance only for the game to be over at Half Time and then the Cats to piss on our remains in the second half. They don't need any Mark Thompson extra motivation to do that, they're already superior to us in all facets.

Oi, you forgot the consolation goals at the end, how dare you.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

^Hmm, maybe more happy now with the way the season has panned out than let's say around six months ago?

Seriously though, to hear Frank Costa give one of his more recent interviews this year and still harbour bitterness towards what went on just reeks of you know what. Everyone has the right to better themselves and change the course of their life if they feel things aren't going so well. That is all he did, contract or no contract.

If he had of stayed and the team hit a slump, guess what the media would be talking about every week of the H&A season? He saw the writing on the wall and got out before he could have had any negative influence on the playing group. If only more coaches would have done that over the years...

Costa was asked to comment and he answered. Costa is a very loyal and trusting person and it was this culture that guided the GFC throughout his reign as President. There would be something very wrong if he wasn't disappointed in the manner of Bombers departure. We would be pretty pathetic if we didn't react this way.
We will all be forever grateful to Bomber for his significant part of our successful era - fantastic stuff.
Had he been honest and told the Club he wanted out instead of orchestrating his departure in July ( in secret) he would have been respected and an exit plan formulated.
This is the sticking point in the whole saga , which will take time to heal.
In the meantime the GFC is in a very healthy state both on and off the field and life goes on..............

 

[i_need_a_pencil]

Lol... a roast? For Geelong to move on?

There may be a couple of posters in the match preview discussions bringing it up, and making something of a otherwise pretty stale match-up, but at least we don't have an entire thread on it.

 

[Duckworth]

Lol... a roast? For Geelong to move on?

There may be a couple of posters in the match preview discussions bringing it up, and making something of a otherwise pretty stale match-up, but at least we don't have an entire thread on it.

Nor should we. Nobody cares. Geelong are happy, Essendon are happy. Win for both clubs, let's move on.

 

[Kong]

Agree, couldn't care less.

It took us about a year to stop moaning about McFlee's dog act; I don't begrudge Geelong supporters doing likewise for their premiership coach.

 

[winty]

The media have been waiting all year for this match, It would have been brought up if we played in round 1, or round 22. They would have been sitting on quotes for months trying to get something out of anything.

Exactly. The media are still bringing it up, when both Essendon and Geelong have moved on. Maybe the thread should be retitled to reflect that fact.