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Autopsy NAB 3 vs Geelong Saturday March 10 3.10pm
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So has geelong.
I dont hate Post.... just think he isnt ready and I dont like seeing players get games over players that have earnt the right in the past.
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This is McGuane's 8th year. He's had plenty of chances to cement his spot. Post is going into his 4th season, with an AFL player's body / fitness for the first time in his career. It would be stupid not to pick Post.
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and I dont get the Mcguane hate.... he is no world beater but Ive seen him put his body on the line and no one can questions his attack on the ball... He has the runs on the board... just like Tuck did last year.
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When is Posts contract finished? I doubt it gets renewed!
No...lets just gift the game to Post! lol
Don't get the Mcguane hate?? Just watch his game last week and most of last season for that matter! Post may not be ready in your opinion but he is certainly light years ahead of Mcguane in mine. For starters post can Kick, secondly his decision making is far superior to Mcguanes and lastly yhe kid ain't shy to make a contest!
And to finish up show me where Mcguane has earned place.........thats right, he hasn't !
Yes he has.... I was pointing out that Geelong is going to struggle in the ruck without him... trying unsuccessfully it seems
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I went to the game, sat in forward pocket city end. Here's a few random thoughts.
Thought Geelong would have put up a bit more of a fight. Really looked to be taking it easy, and that's got nothing to do with the players they had on the park. It looked a pretty half-hearted attitude and I'd be pretty disappointed if I was a Geelong fan.
We didn't seem to do much experimenting this game, with the only exception that after half time when we were well up we played a loose man in defence. You don't normally see that when a team is 8 goals up, so can only have been an experiment I think.
The only other thing was we would swap Vickery in the ruck and Maric at FF basically every couple of goals (meaning Riewoldt played CHF when this happened). Whether this was to try Maric as a forward or Vickery as a ruck (or both) I can't be sure. But I will say that Vickery isn't suited to taking centre bounces. He doesn't like to jump into his opponent at all (soft?). I'd say he should only ruck at throwins in the forward line where he needn't be worried about his opponent jumping into him.
I don't think we'll see King, Nahas and little Maric in the same team, in fact not sure if we will see two of them in the same team. We subbed King for Nahas if more proof is needed. Maric looks a senior player, just his kicking let him down a bit.
Cotchin and Martin were all class. Tuck and Foley swapped a bit and played ok. Tuck has his tendency to butcher the ball a bit but he wins his own ball. Maric was very good in the ruck and one of our best.
Rance was good and looks composed this year. He is in our best 22 for sure and will play every game unless injured. Grimes did quite well and I liked his game.
Post. OK, let me say something. He is a kid with shot confidence. The poor kid looked like the pressure was on to perform and it was too much for him. His game on Hawkins was actually poor (caught out of position, outmuscled, didn't know what to do at stoppages) and if we play him on a guy like Jonathon Brown he will get chewed up and spat out.
It will be very interesting to see if we persit with him next week in a game where he should be able to physically dominate his opponent and hopefully gain confidence. Personally I think we should be trying Astbury at CHB next week, or even McGuane. There is no doubt in my mind that McGuane would have been a better option today, and I don't care if people think McGuane is a dud. Im not talking McGuane up at all, but Post is currently not up to it.
Thought Geelong would have put up a bit more of a fight. Really looked to be taking it easy, and that's got nothing to do with the players they had on the park. It looked a pretty half-hearted attitude and I'd be pretty disappointed if I was a Geelong fan.
We didn't seem to do much experimenting this game, with the only exception that after half time when we were well up we played a loose man in defence. You don't normally see that when a team is 8 goals up, so can only have been an experiment I think.
The only other thing was we would swap Vickery in the ruck and Maric at FF basically every couple of goals (meaning Riewoldt played CHF when this happened). Whether this was to try Maric as a forward or Vickery as a ruck (or both) I can't be sure. But I will say that Vickery isn't suited to taking centre bounces. He doesn't like to jump into his opponent at all (soft?). I'd say he should only ruck at throwins in the forward line where he needn't be worried about his opponent jumping into him.
I don't think we'll see King, Nahas and little Maric in the same team, in fact not sure if we will see two of them in the same team. We subbed King for Nahas if more proof is needed. Maric looks a senior player, just his kicking let him down a bit.
Cotchin and Martin were all class. Tuck and Foley swapped a bit and played ok. Tuck has his tendency to butcher the ball a bit but he wins his own ball. Maric was very good in the ruck and one of our best.
Rance was good and looks composed this year. He is in our best 22 for sure and will play every game unless injured. Grimes did quite well and I liked his game.
Post. OK, let me say something. He is a kid with shot confidence. The poor kid looked like the pressure was on to perform and it was too much for him. His game on Hawkins was actually poor (caught out of position, outmuscled, didn't know what to do at stoppages) and if we play him on a guy like Jonathon Brown he will get chewed up and spat out.
It will be very interesting to see if we persit with him next week in a game where he should be able to physically dominate his opponent and hopefully gain confidence. Personally I think we should be trying Astbury at CHB next week, or even McGuane. There is no doubt in my mind that McGuane would have been a better option today, and I don't care if people think McGuane is a dud. Im not talking McGuane up at all, but Post is currently not up to it.
Thats right McGuane has earned his place in the starting 22 till Post or any body else has the form to take it away from him..
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To me this is like last year with Vickery. Before the season we were all questioning why we would play Vickery as our second KPF when he had done nothing to prove he deserved the position. Come seasons end he had kicked @40 goals for the season and had proven himself.
For mine I believe that Post can have much the same season if he is given the same opportunity that Vickery was given. Just play him at CHB and unless he gets torn to shreds leave him there every week.
For mine I believe that Post can have much the same season if he is given the same opportunity that Vickery was given. Just play him at CHB and unless he gets torn to shreds leave him there every week.
I think the McGuane hate goes too far.. major exaggeration on here. But yeah i think Post will be played ahead of him
Really? Post played a better game today than Mcguane ever has in his life. It's up to Mcguane now to earn his place back.....
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I'm sorry nut but it's as clear as day that Post is well ahead of McGuane, and the decision to play Post ahead of McGuane this week and stick McGuane in Coburg clearly shows the club see it the same way, Post did some really nice things today, his disposal was neat, ran back with the flight of the ball a couple times, and came across the pack to take a few grabs.
McGuane on the other hand is a dumb footballer, makes silly mistakes and decisions at the most crucial times, his disposal is atrocious, is a poor tackler, is not great over head and not that good on the bigger Forwards, what he is though is an honest footballer but that's about it as far as I'm concerned with McGuane.
really...one game...
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Watched the game on TV and it looked like we played a loose man in the backline for most of the day?
Agree. We have showed him how we want him to play, he has done OK but he needs to show he can do it at high intensity and I would prefer he did that at Coburg first. He barely fired a shot in the seniors last year so at the moment we will have to go with McGuane for the spot.
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We played with Newman loose in defence from the first bounce.
How has McGuane earnt his place in the 22 this year? He was shocking against the Roos in NAB 1 and was equally as bad last week against Freo (9 disposals 4 clangers).
BTW Post ended the 2011 season as our CHB, while McGuane was sitting in the stands, so as far as I'm concerned CHB is Posts to lose.
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Not meaning to single you out MT but I want to comment. I went to the game with a couple of players in mind to pay attention to and Post was one of them. Sitting in the pocket I could watch him up close for the 2nd and last quarters. He was out of his depth today. He may well be our future CHB (or FB) but today was not a game to cement his position in the team.
It looked to me like the coaching staff had said to him during the week "here's your chance" and he looked nervous as hell to me. I think it's only Hawkins' lousy accuracy that stopped him kicking a decent bag. It's possible that his 1st and 3rd quarters were ok but what I saw at my end was a player with not much confidence.
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Post. OK, let me say something. He is a kid with shot confidence. The poor kid looked like the pressure was on to perform and it was too much for him. His game on Hawkins was actually poor (caught out of position, outmuscled, didn't know what to do at stoppages) and if we play him on a guy like Jonathon Brown he will get chewed up and spat out.
It will be very interesting to see if we persit with him next week in a game where he should be able to physically dominate his opponent and hopefully gain confidence. Personally I think we should be trying Astbury at CHB next week, or even McGuane. There is no doubt in my mind that McGuane would have been a better option today, and I don't care if people think McGuane is a dud. Im not talking McGuane up at all, but Post is currently not up to it.[/quote]
I guess it comes down to playing a player who we already know what we're gona get in McGuane or playing a kid who's showing some improvement (all be it little by little) & let him develope from there. Even if he is gonna get outmuscled at times.
It will be very interesting to see if we persit with him next week in a game where he should be able to physically dominate his opponent and hopefully gain confidence. Personally I think we should be trying Astbury at CHB next week, or even McGuane. There is no doubt in my mind that McGuane would have been a better option today, and I don't care if people think McGuane is a dud. Im not talking McGuane up at all, but Post is currently not up to it.[/quote]
I guess it comes down to playing a player who we already know what we're gona get in McGuane or playing a kid who's showing some improvement (all be it little by little) & let him develope from there. Even if he is gonna get outmuscled at times.
I would play Post ahead of McGuane for the simple fact that he has far more upside. At the same stage in his career, McGuane was nowhere near as good as Post is at the moment.
McGuane will not be part of our next premiership - that is certain. Post may or may not be. So he is ahead on this basis alone.
Ps. Thought the boys teamed together really well today. The big Mullet has a huge heart and is a real competitor. Martin is just a sublime footballer. Jack is always in the contest. Cotch puts his head where others fear to tread and is all class. Ellis is just pure silk out of the back line and will be a beauty with another preseason or two. Maric minor adds a touch of class to the forward line. I just wish Miller could kick straight. He would be unbelievable if he could. Great games by the captain and Bachar.
McGuane will not be part of our next premiership - that is certain. Post may or may not be. So he is ahead on this basis alone.
Ps. Thought the boys teamed together really well today. The big Mullet has a huge heart and is a real competitor. Martin is just a sublime footballer. Jack is always in the contest. Cotch puts his head where others fear to tread and is all class. Ellis is just pure silk out of the back line and will be a beauty with another preseason or two. Maric minor adds a touch of class to the forward line. I just wish Miller could kick straight. He would be unbelievable if he could. Great games by the captain and Bachar.
tigerdan
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Could have sworn we had 6 guys in the forward line in the 1st Q but anyway, the point is moot... Why else play a loose man in defence if you are 8 goals up if you are not experimenting?
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^^^ I was watching the same game as you...
Post lacks confidence. He needs to know he is in the side because he deserves to be there... Wallace threw him to the wolves to early... Post has seen younger players over take him and he seems he cant handle that.
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One thing that is really starting to shit me is people saying we can't play King, Nahas and Maric in the same side... I think its fairly obvious that we will play all 3, whether that means one of them is a sub who knows but you tell me which guy on our list would play as a medium sized forward or small forward
The options sound like White, Helbig etc, We don't actually have a medium sized forward like a Stevie Johnson size that would play anyway.Or does Edwards/Conca play half forward but they are the same size anyway.
Infact I think our forward set ups will pretty much always consit of the 3 talls so Miller, Riewoltd and Vickery/Big Ivan, and either the 3 small blokes Nahas, King and Addam but the beauty with that is all 3 of those small guys have shown they can go on to the ball and be valuable contributors but it also means that we can rest Martin, Cotchin, Deledio all up forward.
King brings pressure, he will rough up a few feathers, is normally a pretty unselfish player and brings others into frame.
Nahas brings pure speed into that forward line up and can be a slippery match up
Maric brings the foot skills and a bit of flare
I love it how our big guys have got the confidence now that if they can't mark it they can knock it to ground and we have a good chance of keeping the ball in our forward 50 or we score from it because of the 3 boys just mentioned.
The options sound like White, Helbig etc, We don't actually have a medium sized forward like a Stevie Johnson size that would play anyway.Or does Edwards/Conca play half forward but they are the same size anyway.
Infact I think our forward set ups will pretty much always consit of the 3 talls so Miller, Riewoltd and Vickery/Big Ivan, and either the 3 small blokes Nahas, King and Addam but the beauty with that is all 3 of those small guys have shown they can go on to the ball and be valuable contributors but it also means that we can rest Martin, Cotchin, Deledio all up forward.
King brings pressure, he will rough up a few feathers, is normally a pretty unselfish player and brings others into frame.
Nahas brings pure speed into that forward line up and can be a slippery match up
Maric brings the foot skills and a bit of flare
I love it how our big guys have got the confidence now that if they can't mark it they can knock it to ground and we have a good chance of keeping the ball in our forward 50 or we score from it because of the 3 boys just mentioned.
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Thursfield played out the year. If Grimes and Astbury were fit then I doubt Post would have played 1 game last year.
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