Prediction National Draft 2024

[Superkoops]

Clearly Reidy is rated higher by Freo. Also had some interest from AFL clubs like Collingwood and a few others. This was mentioned multiple times by Cal Twomey on gettable.

I like Knobel but around the ground he isn’t great. Had a cracking game against Scott Jones but we are talking the most immobile ruckman the game has seen. He otherwise just sat in the reserves and got lots of hit outs. Unable to play forward line.

I was Reidy’s biggest and harshest critic, particularly early in the year. He came on significantly and finished the year very well especially at WAFL. He did struggle a bit at AFL but did better than I expected.

My take is disappointment but also that the club was willing to take this risk and felt he was a long way off playing AFL. I’m interested to see how they spin this but also not worth getting too worked up. There was no hesitation in selecting Riddell and seemed to be some expectation that Knobel could be selected by another club.

 

[nurries]

Ok so we’ve replaced Walters, I mean additional small forwards.

none

 

[BarbieITFC]

Melting because we’ve lost our fourth choice ruck in a calculated list management move - when:

(A) we’ve sold the farm on our top two rucks already
(B) there’s a mounting bank of evidence that rucks are not that important when it comes to flag changes (Lions were imperious in the GF with Darcy Fort

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Darcy Fort

Age

31

Ht

204cm

Wt

98kg

Pos.

F/R

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.6

2star

K

5.8

2star

HB

2.9

3star

M

1.9

2star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.8

4star

D

9.2

2star

K

6.0

2star

HB

3.2

2star

M

1.8

2star

T

1.8

3star

G

0.2

3star

D

7.6

2star

K

5.4

2star

HB

2.2

2star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.2

3star

G

1.2

4star

as their ruck!!)
(C) the main argument is that we shouldn’t have upgraded Worner ahead of Knobel (spoiler alert - if either Worner or Knobel were needed to play more than a couple of games next year then we ain’t playing finals)

Relax, its the Rookie Draft for goodness sake.

 

[nurries]

Whats the go with Sparkle?

 

[YelloMit]

Let's play Fyfe in the ruck, like a slightly bigger, better Jason Blake

Jason Blake

Age

43

Ht

189cm

Wt

91kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.2

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

6.8

4star

M

4.9

5star

T

2.0

4star

No current season stats available

D

8.6

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.2

3star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.2

4star

.

 

[BurnedScones]

Clearly Reidy is rated higher by Freo. Also had some interest from AFL clubs like Collingwood and a few others. This was mentioned multiple times by Cal Twomey on gettable.

I like Knobel but around the ground he isn’t great. Had a cracking game against Scott Jones but we are talking the most immobile ruckman the game has seen. He otherwise just sat in the reserves and got lots of hit outs. Unable to play forward line.

I was Reidy’s biggest and harshest critic, particularly early in the year. He came on significantly and finished the year very well especially at WAFL. He did struggle a bit at AFL but did better than I expected.

My take is disappointment but also that the club was willing to take this risk and felt he was a long way off playing AFL. I’m interested to see how they spin this but also not worth getting too worked up. There was no hesitation in selecting Riddell and seemed to be some expectation that Knobel could be selected by another club.

Get out of here with your reasonable, balanced takes

 

[Farmerwantsawife]

Knobel played 7 WAFL league games and 24 Ressies in a 2 year period.

Seriously chill out on the death riding lads, no major loss

 

[Docker82]

Whats the go with Sparkle?

Sat out the draft. Will be signed when SSP opens in 10-15 days or so.

 

[jerms]

Liddle just doesnt look big enough to be an AFL ruck

My only thought is that's not what we see him as, and we're taking two swings at an agile 2m-ish tall forward (Nichols being the other). Even if that's not the case, that's how I'd spin it if I were the club, because if they do see him as a ruck there's no way to sugar-coat this as anything but a downgrade in terms of both experience/development and ceiling.

 

[apuchar]

Whats the go with Sparkle?

Waiting for the SSP

 

[Paracleet]

Knoble was also the correct choice to delist in the circumstances we were in. We are trying win a flag as soon as next year and any other player we might have delisted with a view to picking again are all ones that would come straight into the team when there is a B22 injury in their position, Knoble was only getting a game if all three rucks were out at once.

Now personally I would have delisted Jones to make room for a SSP, as I didn't (as in pre back injury) think he was going to make it, but I'm not the pro.

 

[Dockeroo]

A lot on here seem to have a soft spot for Knobel, nothing wrong with that of course.

It’s embarrassing and amateur list management.
Forget the player involved.
Thats not the point. It’s just really poor stuff from our LM team.

Also I’d confidently say you have probably watched a sum total of 5 mins of Knobel playing in his career so far so you have no idea whether he’ll make it or not, and shouldnt be stating with such confidence that he’s not a long term AFL player. He hasn’t even players a game yet at the level and you’ve written him off!

 

[Ge3ks]

I really like his highlights package. Very good forward craft for a ruckman.

 

[apuchar]

My only thought is that's not what we see him as, and we're taking two swings at an agile 2m-ish tall forward (Nichols being the other). Even if that's not the case, that's how I'd spin it if I were the club, because if they do see him as a ruck there's no way to sugar-coat this as anything but a downgrade in terms of both experience/development and ceiling.

If they persisted in seeing Jackson as the second ruck, Knobel would never get a gig. We have possibly done him a favour. Freo clearly don't think we need a second Darcy type, other than an emergency type like Reidy and would prefer a second Jackson type.

 

[millsy]

Good to see Riddle could be developed at CHB. Useful insurance if Draper, McDonald, Davies, Murphy go down and we can't reposition Nicholls.

 

[chaosball32]

Very puzzled with our draft period this year. Needed a small forward and a wingman, got neither. With JL’s job on the line this season you’d think we would have drafted some guys who could come in and have immediate impact especially with it being such a deep and even draft. Nicholls and Carr will not see an AFL game next year, and Reid only will if we play him outside of his preferred position.

We delist Knobel just to prioritise Worner who would’ve likely been delisted this year had he not been contracted to 2025. Knobel get snatched up and we end up rookie-ing an unknown 18 year old ruck. I don’t rate Knobel as highly as others on this board but we’ve just wasted 2 years of development, and that’s without mentioning our number 1 rucks checkered fitness history.

Not to mention being straight up bitched by a few clubs

 

[MadMundy]

It’s embarrassing and amateur list management.
Forget the player involved.
Thats not the point. It’s just really poor stuff from our LM team.

Also I’d confidently say you have probably watched a sum total of 5 mins of Knobel playing in his career so far so you have no idea whether he’ll make it or not, and shouldnt be stating with such confidence that he’s not a long term AFL player. He hasn’t even players a game yet at the level and you’ve written him off!

If he's going to be a long term player he'll find a way to do it, I'm happy for him to prove me wrong.

It's on him from now to prove the club wrong for letting him go.

 

[freo_leo29]

I mean if we're going off of WAFL performances Reidy is absolutely better, Knobel for the most part is potential and largely unproven. From the bits I've seen he's fine, but I don't think he was ever going to be a big player for us.

If we are going on wafl performances then Knobel looked better


Reidy just had more opportunities

 

[apuchar]

Knobel played 7 WAFL league games and 24 Ressies in a 2 year period.

Seriously chill out on the death riding lads, no major loss

That only happened because Reidy took the main ruck role in the league team. More mature and was given first dibs. Under different circumstances, Knobel would have played league. He acquitted himself very well when he got the opportunity

 

[s_wd6]

Whats the go with Sparkle?

Will be signed Monday

 

[nurries]

Sat out the draft. Will be signed when SSP opens in 10-15 days or so.

roger that

 

[freo1]

Melting because we’ve lost our fourth choice ruck in a calculated list management move - when:

(A) we’ve sold the farm on our top two rucks already
(B) there’s a mounting bank of evidence that rucks are not that important when it comes to flag changes (Lions were imperious in the GF with Darcy Fort as their ruck!!)
(C) the main argument is that we shouldn’t have upgraded Worner ahead of Knobel (spoiler alert - if either Worner or Knobel were needed to play more than a couple of games next year then we ain’t playing finals)

Relax, its the Rookie Draft for goodness sake.

Crazy when you read your first 2 points in isolation/together. Therin lies the contradiction that is Fremantle.

 

[The Lobbster]

That only happened because Reidy took the main ruck role in the league team. More mature and was given first dibs. Under different circumstances, Knobel would have played league. He acquitted himself very well when he got the opportunity

Yeah but we still have Reidy. Who will still be first choice ruck for Peel. So the different circumstances that would lead to more league time for Knobel don’t really exist at the Dockers.

 

[Eski3]

Man poor Aiden Riddle, is a massive Freo fan and seems like a decent young ruck option and gets drafted to the team he loves to have the entire fan base be extremely angry about it lol

For the record yes this is clearly a balls up, Knobel had shown a bit, but I'm not sure it's enough of a balls up for this to be melt worthy

 

[Wallsy78]

Clearly Reidy is rated higher by Freo. Also had some interest from AFL clubs like Collingwood and a few others. This was mentioned multiple times by Cal Twomey on gettable.

I like Knobel but around the ground he isn’t great. Had a cracking game against Scott Jones but we are talking the most immobile ruckman the game has seen. He otherwise just sat in the reserves and got lots of hit outs. Unable to play forward line.

I was Reidy’s biggest and harshest critic, particularly early in the year. He came on significantly and finished the year very well especially at WAFL. He did struggle a bit at AFL but did better than I expected.

My take is disappointment but also that the club was willing to take this risk and felt he was a long way off playing AFL. I’m interested to see how they spin this but also not worth getting too worked up. There was no hesitation in selecting Riddell and seemed to be some expectation that Knobel could be selected by another club.

I'm disappointed we lost 2 years of development into Knobel, but I think there is some serious questions about the type of ruckman Knobel is for the modern game. He projects like a Ned Reeves to me

The modern day ruck's are either 1) Incredibly strong or 2) A great runner with mobility, or ideally both. I don't think Knobel is either. Geelong just drafted an athletic freak ruckman over the number 1 rated ruck in this draft (his teammate), after investing pretty heavily in both Toby Conway and Mitch Edwards as both tall, lumbering ruckman

If we rated him highly we never would have delisted him and risked it. Always thought it was strange he didn't get game time with Reidy at Peel as a ruck/forward rotation. Because forward minutes would be useful for both Reidy and Knobel's development