Opinion New AFC HQ: We're on like Donkey Kong!

[NTRabbit]

ask and ye shall receive - from 11 hours ago...

Tower complex approved for old Le Cornu site - InDaily

The State Commission Assessment Panel has approved plans to transform a notorious North Adelaide block vacant for 30 years into a $250 million three-tower development, with construction expected to begin next year.

indaily.com.au

Long overdue development, the size of which will finally start to transform the area, and the North Adelaide NIMBYs will have their hands full failing to stop it.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

ask and ye shall receive - from 11 hours ago...

Tower complex approved for old Le Cornu site - InDaily

The State Commission Assessment Panel has approved plans to transform a notorious North Adelaide block vacant for 30 years into a $250 million three-tower development, with construction expected to begin next year.

indaily.com.au

Would be good for all those residents to have a public aquatic facility available for their use

 

[Deaneus!]

Would be good for all those residents to have a public aquatic facility available for their use

they can refill the pools with their tears

 

[MarcusP2]

Great to hear that PAC have had their clubrooms, including liquor license, approved in the parkland....

I read this as PAFC and was about to melt hard. Lol.

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[GrommoT]

ACC can go and get...

 

[deeztreez]

ACC can go and get...

Minced? Ground?…Pulverised?

 

[Cap]

So John mentioned he had hoped to make an announcement by now.

The gas works must be more of an option than initially thought. Or are we waiting for a Govt run tender?

 

[Deaneus!]

So John mentioned he had hoped to make an announcement by now.

The gas works must be more of an option than initially thought. Or are we waiting for a Govt run tender?

my understanding is a govt run tender will happen

 

[Jerome]

Off field, Adelaide’s big agenda item is finding a new administrative and training base away from West Lakes. Gone is the dream of a base in the city. It is now either Thebarton Oval in a share arrangement with the SANFL and Adelaide Footy League or the old gas works depot at Brompton.

Olsen told InDaily the original hope of a decision in June is gone, with a new date aligned to a board meeting in early September.

“We have done 90 per cent of the (due diligence and planning) work on Thebarton Oval, but we have to consider using a school oval while the work on the South Road tunnels takes out Kings Reserve as a second training ground (for use as a depot for tunnelling equipment for as many as eight years and ultimately could leave a permanent six or eight-metre wall on the oval),” Olsen said.

“And Brompton involves the cost of soil remediation, but not to the extent demanded of residential housing estates. We still have some work to do.”

A Rucci article from June. Mid-season stocktake for Crows rebuild (indaily.com.au)

 

[CrowMike]

You’d have the imagine that Brompton is now the preferred location.

 

[jenny61_99]

You’d have the imagine that Brompton is now the preferred location.

I got the feeling it always was. There was a real plus to it being freehold.

 

[Jerome]

Renewal SA to assess competing bids for Brompton gasworks

The Adelaide Crows are not the only potential buyer circling the latest site the club has earmarked for its new headquarters.

The Advertiser 7 July 2021

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Plans to redevelop the former Brompton gasworks into a new club headquarters for the Adelaide Crows are far from a done deal, with the property’s owner to assess competing bids from other developers.

The state government’s development arm, Renewal SA, has issued an advance notice of an upcoming tender for the 5.65ha site, which will seek expressions of interest from developers.

In the notice, Renewal SA says it is seeking a “visionary development partner/s to develop a vibrant mixed-use precinct that blends heritage, sustainability and community in a way that is complementary to and integrates with the Bowden redevelopment project”.


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If you are really keen for the details Display Tender URA049630 (tenders.sa.gov.au)

 

[GreyCrow]

Smells like a price push by the seller

'look we just received an offer which exceeds yours but we like you enough to tell you and if you wish to re-bid please let us know by close of business'

 

[CrowMike]

It’ll still go through. The area is lacking any sort of green and community space. Time for the Crows to set up their fundraising committee.

 

[Cap]

It will be interesting what the alternatives are. You'd think they would struggle to match the oen space of a footy oval

 

[hey shorty]

It will be interesting what the alternatives are. You'd think they would struggle to match the oen space of a footy oval

I'd almost say there won't be any, they're just giving the illusion of a process

 

[Geoffa32]

I'd almost say there won't be any, they're just giving the illusion of a process

Unlike the Gilman land deal.


Renewal SA under a bit more scrutiny now.

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[NTRabbit]

If they really want it to happen, RSA will borrow from decades of finely honed Defence beauracracy and write the tender to match the correct bid

 

[1970crow]

Smells like a price push by the seller

'look we just received an offer which exceeds yours but we like you enough to tell you and if you wish to re-bid please let us know by close of business'

Don't think so, that message from renewal SA is consistent. It's nuffies in here that believed it'd be gifted to us with a wink, wink, nudge, nudge sham process.

 

[1970crow]

It will be interesting what the alternatives are. You'd think they would struggle to match the oen space of a footy oval

Every single tenderer could include a footy oval and one that has more public access than if we were successful.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Every single tenderer could include a footy oval and one that has more public access than if we were successful.

Every single tenderer would need to make it a commercially viable project within a similar timespan as us even though there’s hectares of land in that area still waiting for development, let alone the brewery, Coke factory, that old seafood factory right on the corner of port road and park terrace, potentially the entertainment Centre if Libs win the next state election.
And then they need to remediate the land to a far higher standard than we would require.

No property developer is putting in a bid that would stack up.

this is all just a proxess

 

[Cap]

Every single tenderer could include a footy oval and one that has more public access than if we were successful.

The difference is when a developer assigns green space, the loss of value needs to be recovered from the sales price of the remaining saleable land, pushing up prices.

AFC don't have that problem, the land that is worthless to developers, has value to them. So that cost doesn't need to be shared.

Be interesting to see the tenders though, it might not be down to land price

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

The difference is when a developer assigns green space, the loss of value needs to be recovered from the sales price of the remaining saleable land, pushing up prices.

AFC don't have that problem, the land that is worthless to developers, has value to them. So that cost doesn't need to be shared.

Be interesting to see the tenders though, it might not be down to land price

There's no guarantee there will be other offers. The article is misleading.

 

[1970crow]

The difference is when a developer assigns green space, the loss of value needs to be recovered from the sales price of the remaining saleable land, pushing up prices.

AFC don't have that problem, the land that is worthless to developers, has value to them. So that cost doesn't need to be shared.

Be interesting to see the tenders though, it might not be down to land price

It's rarely land price alone, various factors are all assessed independently and have various weightings. Value assigned to land is one factor. You'll have to explain RE the land being worthless to other developers compared to us? Green space is green space, in terms of maximising the value of the land, it makes no difference, it's lost whether you have a personal need for it or not. Either way, it impacts what you can hope to recover from the remainder. There's no tendering advantage to us plonking an oval in our tender compared to another mob that does it. It just forms part of the green space component except ours comes with strings.

I'm not saying we won't win it, an AFL footy club with possibly a public access swimming complex is a pretty cool and unique anchor tenant in what will be a much larger residential development. But let's not make out having to put a footy oval in it is a competitive advantage when any tenderer can do that and make it 100% publicly accessible. We won't be winning because of the footy oval, having to include it makes it harder.

 

[StonesThrow]

ask and ye shall receive - from 11 hours ago...

Tower complex approved for old Le Cornu site - InDaily

The State Commission Assessment Panel has approved plans to transform a notorious North Adelaide block vacant for 30 years into a $250 million three-tower development, with construction expected to begin next year.

indaily.com.au

I'm sure it will look like this

Why we allow so much West facing glazing in developments is baffling. A quarter of the residents will live in hot boxes with no option for external shading.