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[Scorpus]

If the three mystery sites were better than Thebarton why wouldn't they have been our second choice?

 

[hey shorty]

If the three mystery sites were better than Thebarton why wouldn't they have been our second choice?

My guess is theyd require another tender process, and seeing as that we were always balls deep in one, the fall back option is the one thats virtually ready to go

 

[Cap]

Soooo

Adelaide United is up for sale..........

 

[hey shorty]

Soooo

Adelaide United is up for sale..........

Ross will buy it

 

[Cap]

Ross will buy it

Probably.

But of all the sporting endeavours that have a good synergy, AU would be one of them

 

[Jirkago75]

I agree, was never going to happen even more so in Winter and after a loss. I think there are better options for a members facility.

I think Thebarton can work but think the SANFL/SAAFL probably need their own facility like the SACA has with Karen Rolten Oval and I think we could do with our own. I imagine soon we will have a second women's team and more academy type setups.

To me more housing and retail is a fairly boring safe option but understand the economics of it.

Off topic but kind of related, decisions like this do make me consider perhaps protecting the parklands isn't such a bad thing or we would see more of these types of projects that don't really add much in the long run. I think the answer is somewhere in the middle where you can do things on the parklands that improve the use.

The thing about the parklands is this, every time we drive by it looks crap. The grass is never green and looks plain awful. I believe if they were maintained well then it’s fine and most people would be happy. The parklands ar an eyesore to me, I think they either fix them up or let other do it.
We as south Australians just accept everything even if it’s garbage

 

[MRB37]

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"Labor vows to reveal ‘secret deal’ to punt Crows’ Brompton bid"

Treasury spokesman Stephen Mullighan said, if victorious at the March 19 state election, a Labor government would reveal key aspects of the deal, including the sale price and full extent of local job creation.
Mr Mullighan condemned Treasurer Rob Lucas for keeping secret key aspects of the deal, also including the requirements for remediation of the contaminated 5.81ha site, in Adelaide’s inner west.
Mr Lucas on Thursday announced Melbourne-based developer MAB Corporation had been selected in a $459m deal for a 11,500sq m project, including housing for 2200 people, a 120-room hotel and a piazza surrounded by cafes, restaurants and bars.

“How can the community form any view about whether the Liberal government has made a proper decision about this when the Treasurer refuses to reveal key details about the deal?” Mr Mullighan said.
“Once again, Rob Lucas has committed to a deal with a private company and refusing to release the details on what it means for taxpayers – it’s simply not good enough.”

Mr Mullighan listed other deals for which he also accused Mr Lucas of undue secrecy, including train and tram contracts, Korda Mentha SA Health administration and Lot Fourteen rental subsidies.

State land agency Renewal SA, which reports to Mr Lucas, is now exclusively negotiating with MAB “with a view to entering into a development agreement in the coming months”, according to Mr Lucas’s announcement.
This would present a significant challenge to complete before the government on February 19 entered caretaker mode ahead of the March 19 state election, opening the prospect of Labor revealing details during the negotiation process if it won office.
Mr Lucas has said the MAB plan represented an overall $66.5m reduction in overall government expenditure, including economic development and “avoided cost” for taxpayers.
Mr Mullighan said this suggested the budget benefit was prioritised ahead of the community or housing priorities.
Mr Lucas also said the MAB deal was a better financial deal and provided more long-term jobs growth than the Crows proposal.

 

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The thing about the parklands is this, every time we drive by it looks crap. The grass is never green and looks plain awful. I believe if they were maintained well then it’s fine and most people would be happy. The parklands ar an eyesore to me, I think they either fix them up or let other do it.
We as south Australians just accept everything even if it’s garbage

100% agree and we should be able to build some kind of facility on it but this decision shows how short sighted Governments can be if it's purely dollars.

 

[StonesThrow]

There are large amounts of parklands that are great.

 

[Geoffa32]

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"Labor vows to reveal ‘secret deal’ to punt Crows’ Brompton bid"

ALP should probably keep quiet after the Gilman land deal.

And maybe tell us how much Lance Armstrong was paid to ride in the TDU?





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[Rotayjay]

'Property developer Ross Pelligra has vowed to push ahead in the search for a new home for the Adelaide Crows, revealing there are three sites still in the mix for the club’s new base.'

He doesn't say what they are.

That big-arse empty block on Gouger Street?

 

[Rotayjay]

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"Labor vows to reveal ‘secret deal’ to punt Crows’ Brompton bid"

The top brass of both the Labor and Liberal parties in South Australia all seem to be Port supporters

 

[1970crow]

Hmmm…Olsen. Where are all those friends in high places? Isn’t this what u were hired for?

What would be amusing would be to go back and read the posts from the fools who believed the RSA tender process was a sham and wink, wink, nudge, nudge,the site was ours.

 

[1970crow]

As we speak I would be willing to bet that the SANFL will be happily devising more ways to extract their pound of flesh from us to use Thebarton Oval.

I just don't see how or why the SANFL would ever consider giving up their lease for us if there's nothing in it for them, sadly I just don't see it happening.

Deep down we all know it's going to end up being that Therbaton Oval will just be a new method the SANFL will have to screw money out of us.

Ordinarily you'd need some solid control instruments in place to be able to borrow at secured rates and also to receive government grants to develop property you don't own. May have changed, but we had this challenge at the golf club in Alice when applying for a large grant for the course. We owned the clubhouse and Carpark, that was easy. But we had a hell of a time finding actual documents that provide us perpetual effective control of the course.

 

[1970crow]

I can see it now, from running the car parking after our AFL games to getting a cut of the gate at AFLW games.

We're not in the gate taking business. We're going to offload it to someone and receive a share, it might as well be the SANFL.

 

[1970crow]

I would love to know what local residents think

Who gives a crud. As long as it meets planning guidelines, their voice carries no more weight than yours or mine. RSA got the best deal for the property owner. I'd have preferred less weighting on $ as well, but given COVID debts and the ongoing discussion around lack of new housing stock, it's not a surprising result in the least.

 

[1970crow]

SANFL holds the "Head Lease" .....AFC "Sub Lease" the current oval

We still are beholding to the wants of the SANFL .....as we are at Adelaide Oval .....we just can't seem to break the ties

There's nothing stopping council carving up the area into seperate leases. Or us bending the SANFL over when negotiation the terms of a sub-lease.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

There's nothing stopping council carving up the area into seperate leases. Or us bending the SANFL over when negotiation the terms of a sub-lease.

Correct on both points

 

[Cap]

Who gives a crud. As long as it meets planning guidelines, their voice carries no more weight than yours or mine. RSA got the best deal for the property owner. I'd have preferred less weighting on $ as well, but given COVID debts and the ongoing discussion around lack of new housing stock, it's not a surprising result in the least.

We've already discussed the ins and outs of the development and why it won, but the people that live there are directly impacted.

So no I didn't care about your or my opinion. It was kinda in the question.

 

[1970crow]

Probably a fair comment. My main issue is the construction on south rd. It won't start at thebby for 5 years though but will take 5 years to complete

Then we stay at footy park for a few years. Good thing is there's no rush to build and this is a decision for half a century. First few years not ideal, but unless something like the aquatic centre pops up out of nowhere, it's looking like our best long term option.

 

[hey shorty]

We've already discussed the ins and outs of the development and why it won, but the people that live there are directly impacted.

So no I didn't care about your or my opinion. It was kinda in the question.

The people who live there aren't going to want massive light towers on most nights of the week.

 

[1970crow]

My one issue with Thebby is SANFL.
Roadworks a hassle. But can be over come.

Brompton was also ownership of land. A massive asset, few AFL clubs own land. Port don't own Alberton. Financially that would have been massive.

You are right, in terms of facilities Thebby is just as good. If not better, with a proper grandstand already there for AFLW and SANFL games.


Wherever we are, there will never be an after match function at our HQ. Like Port, it will always be at AO.

Too inconvenient for players and club officials. That is a fairy tale.


But good to hear Olsen emphasise a place for members.

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I reckon a function after an SANFL or AFLW game could work.

 

[Cap]

The people who live there aren't going to want massive light towers on most nights of the week.

I reckon the thought of footy club and footy crowd would be a turn off.

But that's guessing

 

[1970crow]

As I said, once all is sold and developers have money in their pockets, it's just time before that whole region becomes a high density slum.

High density slum full of $700k townhouses. Sure.

 

[1970crow]

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