Just on homework. I just looked after reading these posts. If you go to the last round and look at the points for nth v hustbridge. One says 47/50 the other 47/47. Not sure why?. Thats doing homework rather than just talking about it.
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Completely aware of that. So they have been playing at 47/47 the last few weeks, so that would mean the 23rd man this week is a young kid who must be a 3 pointer? The changes they’ve obviously made which that I haven’t done homework on, would mean it was a straight points swap out. Taking into consideration the 23rd, that would make 50, however you need to submit all players names into the team sheet online from
memory, so if there is 23 players this would mean the league must adjust this to reflect it one would assume.
Fridge can you provide any further insight?
memory, so if there is 23 players this would mean the league must adjust this to reflect it one would assume.
Fridge can you provide any further insight?
How about we talk about something else.
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Yeah.....”consult all clubs”, that’ll work. I think the points system is fine as it is. It’s across the board and fair on most if not all. If your so concerned about under 23’s not getting a senior game and they are good enough, then manage your recruiting and list so that you can play them or give them opportunity somewhere else. If your happy to recruit to the point where your maximising your points allocation, then the problem is yours, not the systems.
There was a huge consultation process when the points system was developed a couple of years ago...
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Couldn’t agree more. The points system is fair and encourages loyalty. Only issue is that it’s a huge advantage to clubs with big junior programs ie. Greensborough, Eltham, St Mary’s who should never be anywhere near the cap.
Well then the incentive is for clubs that don’t have successful junior programs in place to shift their focus in that area and develop in their own backyard which alleviates points and salary cap pressures. North Heidelberg don’t have that luxury unfortunately and this is why they are always going to be at max points.
The Loyal Lion
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That’s right, it’s going to be a 10 year plus project for a number of clubs. You would think clubs like Laurimar, Mernda, South Morang and Whittlesea should be well served is in years to come given the growth out North.
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Ok, how does the points system create loyalty from your players?
How many blokes have said I will knock back an extra $500 a game to go elsewhere because it means I will be a 4 pointer instead of a 1 pointer
There are hundreds of clubs in Vic and there will always be one Club with cap space or points space to bring players in.
Clubs will try and retain players due to their low points not ability, meaning it will take longer for them to climb the ladder.
If we are all subject to a salary cap then that should be sufficient to keeping it a level playing field.
Fridge42
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You do realise it is local football and the vast majority of people are volunteers don’t you?
It is hard enough getting people to put goal post pads up let alone create a recruiting strategy based on a points system that needs to be looked at over a span of 5yrs or more.
If you can attract footballers to play at your club and be under a salary cap then that is enough in my opinion.
If you say the salary cap doesn’t work then get rid of it and let clubs pay whatever they want if they can stay under the points system.
A club like Macleod who are all locals pretty much got beat by Bundoora last year who were max points and would have paid out a lot more money.
Did the points system benefit them?
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Haha hope your being sarcastic Keith. It was put together by people in big houses, most wouldn’t have ventured out in the cold to watch a game of local footy ever..It was whacked together..
http://aflvic.com.au/wp-content/upl...Club-Sustainability-Program-8th-May_FINAL.pdf
Do yourself a favor turbo and have a read. Looks like a reasonable level of consultation was made with clubs.
I’m all for giving AFLV a clip when it’s deserved, but for one believe the points system and salary cap will be a success.
It’s a 10+ year project, and people are wanting to chuck it out after 2 years...
The Loyal Lion
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I’m talking about clubs, not players.
If clubs have brains they’ll look after their good home grown players rather than have them go bush or cross the road for an extra $100 a week. Good clubs don’t lose players, at least not in droves.
The salary cap is bullshit and impossible to police properly.
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Hey Macleod still made a GF and got an opportunity compared to another 8 clubs, some of which used more points and paid a lot more cash.
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Only half the players at Macleod...
Exactly. Plus the big guy who won the grand final for bundoora. Im sure he has been offered a few dollars to move clubs but stays as a 1 pointer.
Can anyone tell me what the crowd number was like at de Winton ? I’m overseas at the moment so just curious if the stand alone game was beneficial
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Massive crowd. Great idea from the club to put up temporary fencing around the ground to get the gate
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About time Macleod did that, we’ve missed out on gate takings for years so good on the club for cashing in for a change
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It’s more about how some players are rated. Imo some are to high which affects their options in clubs..
I was replying to Fridge42 on his call about lack of consultation, and your call that it was ‘whacked together’...
The link I posted shows otherwise
Fridge42
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What are your thoughts on U’19 kids being 3 pointers because they never played juniors with your club?
Given we haven’t had juniors for a number of years due to many factors, the fact that we have 19s is a miracle.
Rather than being rewarded for all of the hard work, all of those kids are 3 pointers. It is ludicrous.
We had a 15yr old play as the 23rd man last year and he was a 4 pointer!
Don’t tell me the system doesn’t have floors. Div 2 clubs get punished for recruiting Div 1 players but those clubs can take Div 2 players with no added point. How does that make sense?
Its the same flaw for every team.
Its designed to make sides retain players and build a junior prigram. Yeah , so you didnt have a junior program due to many factors ? Only have yourselves to blame for that. Live and learn, move on from it coz its not like the points system is gunna change anytime soon
Its designed to make sides retain players and build a junior prigram. Yeah , so you didnt have a junior program due to many factors ? Only have yourselves to blame for that. Live and learn, move on from it coz its not like the points system is gunna change anytime soon
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Full credit to Macleod on the day and the win. One thing I will say is that I’m surprised by the fencing, not because it’s not a great idea but when Lower wanted to erect some fencing for their Campbell Brown game v Mont a few years back, council (Banyule) said they would not allow it under any circumstances. Aside from that it was great to watch a game of footy with good atmosphere that entertained for a while before Macleod kicked into another gear and ran away.
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