Do that two more times and he'll have matched Dusty.All good - we'll just settle for 'Best performed player in the competition in 2023 after finals are taken into consideration'.
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Do that two more times and he'll have matched Dusty.All good - we'll just settle for 'Best performed player in the competition in 2023 after finals are taken into consideration'.
& since Dusty is definitely not the goat Nick will still need to do better in order to be in goat contentionDo that two more times and he'll have matched Dusty.
Bont:Bontempelli had the better year and lead Nicki in every award in the end. Beat him out in nearly every stat that matters too.
Just happened to be that Nicki boys team was far better than Bonts last season.
M Pickett 1 game, 1flag, 3rd in norm smith voting all the week after winning the afl flag!Haha, now the comparisons are against players that haven't won a flag
Wondering how many have won 2 or more, are they better than Nicki
Martin was the best performed player once across the course of a season - 2017.Do that two more times and he'll have matched Dusty.
According to your good self ND hasn’t polled a Brownlow vote in the last 9 regular season games.All good - we'll just settle for 'Best performed player in the competition in 2023 after finals are taken into consideration'.
So how exactly is Daicos the best performed during the season incl finals when he was nowhere near the Gary Ayres medal?Martin was the best performed player once across the course of a season - 2017.
2019 and 2020 - he was nowhere near it after home and away, and his strong finals series catapulted him into 2nd in 2020 (behind Neale) and the top half dozen in 2019 (which is being generous given he was 6th in his own club's best and fairest and didn't make All-Australian).
So he got injured and Bont ended up having a better year, thanks for confirming.Bont:
Was 4 votes behind in the Brownlow when Daicos got injured, and beat him by a vote after polling 5 votes in the final two rounds against West Coast and a Geelong team that had put the cue in the rack when not able to make finals.
Coaches award - same deal, was 12 votes behind when Daicos got injured, to beat him by 3 votes.
Reasonable to assume many players would have flipped Daicos and Bont for the MVP due to Daicos' incomplete season and Bont finishing strong. But Daicos still finished second in the MVP.
Then Daicos played one very good and one great finals game, resulting in a premiership.
So Bont? Yeah, nah...
That he's not willing to put himself in harms way to help the team when he needs to
No, I'm not.I’m assuming Fadge is taking the highest polled Brownlow player and highest polled finals player (Gary Ayres) and using that as the criteria for his award
Finals weighting gets him over the line in both the '19 and '20 seasons. Gary Ayres Medals in both seasons are testament to that. Sorry salty caramel Fadge.Martin was the best performed player once across the course of a season - 2017.
2019 and 2020 - he was nowhere near it after home and away, and his strong finals series catapulted him into 2nd in 2020 (behind Neale) and the top half dozen in 2019 (which is being generous given he was 6th in his own club's best and fairest and didn't make All-Australian).
Jason Castagna 3 time premiership small forward, we became competitive when he became best 22 and his retirement last year signalled the official end of our dominance
Geeze this award of yours has some very particular criteriaNo, I'm not.
I've said many times award votes are a guide - some players attract them more than others.
Martin wouldn't have been in the top 20 players across the home and away season in 2019, as indicated by his omission from the AA team.
A great finals series, and he leapfrog a heap of players, but there was far too much of a gap between him and the top few - Cripps, Kelly, Fyfe and Neale.
So Nicki leading the Brownlow until injured is only a guide. Excellent.No, I'm not.
I've said many times award votes are a guide - some players attract them more than others.
Martin wouldn't have been in the top 20 players across the home and away season in 2019, as indicated by his omission from the AA team.
A great finals series, and he leapfrog a heap of players, but there was far to much of a gap between him and the top few - Cripps, Kelly, Fyfe and Neale.
Yep, Martin the best finals player in both seasons. Agree.Finals weighting gets him over the line in both the '19 and '20 seasons. Gary Ayres Medals in both seasons are testament to that. Sorry salty caramel Fadge.
Neale racking up cheap early season dominance but going to water when the heat was on diminishes his 2020.
Similar in 2019. No need to be AA for H&A, when Dusty was always playing a long game looking to dominate the end of season when the heat is on. Which he did. Unequivocally.
I explained why Daicos was rated higher than Bont, as an example.So could I kindly request all criteria that goes into your award and the weight that a win in each criteria gets in terms of determining the winner?
So with votes merely being a guide... How could you possibly argue Bontempelli wasn't better in 2023 then? On just about every key statistic he was better than Daicos, despite being in a lesser team.No, I'm not.
I've said many times award votes are a guide - some players attract them more than others.
Martin wouldn't have been in the top 20 players across the home and away season in 2019, as indicated by his omission from the AA team.
A great finals series, and he leapfrog a heap of players, but there was far to much of a gap between him and the top few - Cripps, Kelly, Fyfe and Neale.
So you alone decide who is the winner?I explained why Daicos was rated higher than Bont, as an example.
I've said a thousand times, players don't get a tick for winning an award and a cross for not winning am award.
If you use that criteria, you'd have Bont, Butters and Neale the equal best players in 2023, with all three infinitely better than every other player in the competition.
Unless you wanted to throw in Curnow, Walsh and Hill, to have 6 equal best, who are all infinitely better than the other 800 odd players in the comp...
Applying the bolded to last season and we don't come out with Nicki on top.Yep, Martin the best finals player in both seasons. Agree.
But you need to put in a full season to be judged the best player across a full season. It's not that difficult a concept to grasp.
A lot.Haha, now the comparisons are against players that haven't won a flag
Wondering how many have won 2 or more, are they better than Nicki