Past Coach NMFC Senior Coach - David Noble has parted ways with NMFC

[Gasometer]

There’s no excuse for turnovers at the elite level but I challenge anyone to go down to ground view on the boundary (first two or three rows) and look up/across the ground at the challenges of trying to weave the ball against a tight defensive unit like Geelong.

But anyway, poor skills and match fit seem to be a common theme for a large part of the past decade

 

[Masked Avenger]

One thing the Coach and his group definitely needs to wear is the choice of Captain this year. In a developing team that will inevitably be put to the sword at stages during games, which surely crossed their minds, you need your Captain in the guts.

 

[justroyal]

I hate damo as much as anyone but pretty accurate in his podcast this morning on the AFL website.

But, it’s tough. Noble did hand pick his team around him. So it will be interesting to see how they collectively try and make inroads.

 

[Mixed Results]

At the start of the year, the perspective within Arden St would have to have been that David Noble would coach out the year no matter what. We all understand the situation with the list, and winning was not our highest priority anyway. David Noble's pass mark for 2022 was so low that it wasn't even worth discussing.

But now, I think we need to reassess the "no matter what part" and start asking the question of what David Noble needs to show to keep his job past the bye week. These are our next seven games that take us to the bye.

• Carlton at Marvel
• Fremantle at Optus
• Port Adelaide at Blundstone
• Melbourne at Marvel
• St Kilda at Marvel
• Gold Coast at TIO
• GWS at Marvel

Going back to David Noble's low pass mark, I think he is safe even if he loses all seven of these games. However, there are obviously different types of defeats. Three more 10 goal losses in this stretch would mean that we've had an equal amount of those defeats in 2022 than David Noble's first two years at Brisbane combined. Five more 10 goal losses in this stretch would mean that we'd have matched the 2013 Demons as far as number of 10 goal losses at the bye week when Mark Neeld was sacked in his second year.

David Noble's job was one of the safest at the start of the year, but we as a side needed to occasionally show some level of football competence. With how ugly the next five weeks could be, I think we need to be prepared for the conversation around David Noble being sacked midseason.

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

There’s no excuse for turnovers at the elite level but I challenge anyone to go down to ground view on the boundary (first two or three rows) and look up/across the ground at the challenges of trying to weave the ball against a tight defensive unit like Geelong.

But anyway, poor skills and match fit seem to be a common theme for a large part of the past decade

What - like Hawthorn did 7 days ago?

 

[DesertRoo]

At the start of the year, the perspective within Arden St would have to have been that David Noble would coach out the year no matter what. We all understand the situation with the list, and winning was not our highest priority anyway. David Noble's pass mark for 2022 was so low that it wasn't even worth discussing.

But now, I think we need to reassess the "no matter what part" and start asking the question of what David Noble needs to show to keep his job past the bye week. These are our next seven games that take us to the bye.

• Carlton at Marvel
• Fremantle at Optus
• Port Adelaide at Blundstone
• Melbourne at Marvel
• St Kilda at Marvel
• Gold Coast at TIO
• GWS at Marvel

Going back to David Noble's low pass mark, I think he is safe even if he loses all seven of these games. However, there are obviously different types of defeats. Three more 10 goal losses in this stretch would mean that we've had an equal amount of those defeats in 2022 than David Noble's first two years at Brisbane combined. Five more 10 goal losses in this stretch would mean that we'd have matched the 2013 Demons as far as number of 10 goal losses at the bye week when Mark Neeld was sacked in his second year.

David Noble's job was one of the safest at the start of the year, but we as a side needed to occasionally show some level of football competence. With how ugly the next five weeks could be, I think we need to be prepared for the conversation around David Noble being sacked midseason.

we’re already paying Tom Lynch outside the soft cap to get around the mess we find ourselves in..
I doubt we’re looking to sack him, we simply couldn’t afford the payout and coaches marry go round again. hopefully end of this year we can hire a couple more people to help out.

 

[shimaburnsgrieg]

At the start of the year, the perspective within Arden St would have to have been that David Noble would coach out the year no matter what. We all understand the situation with the list, and winning was not our highest priority anyway. David Noble's pass mark for 2022 was so low that it wasn't even worth discussing.

But now, I think we need to reassess the "no matter what part" and start asking the question of what David Noble needs to show to keep his job past the bye week. These are our next seven games that take us to the bye.

• Carlton at Marvel
• Fremantle at Optus
• Port Adelaide at Blundstone
• Melbourne at Marvel
• St Kilda at Marvel
• Gold Coast at TIO
• GWS at Marvel

Going back to David Noble's low pass mark, I think he is safe even if he loses all seven of these games. However, there are obviously different types of defeats. Three more 10 goal losses in this stretch would mean that we've had an equal amount of those defeats in 2022 than David Noble's first two years at Brisbane combined. Five more 10 goal losses in this stretch would mean that we'd have matched the 2013 Demons as far as number of 10 goal losses at the bye week when Mark Neeld was sacked in his second year.

David Noble's job was one of the safest at the start of the year, but we as a side needed to occasionally show some level of football competence. With how ugly the next five weeks could be, I think we need to be prepared for the conversation around David Noble being sacked midseason.

If you look at that 7 game schedule with the team we put out yesterday and assuming no changes to the current 'game plan' I would be thinking

. Carlton - 50 point loss
. Dockers - 80 point loss
. Port - break even to small loss - nourishment?
. Melbourne - 100 plus point loss
. StK - 60 point loss
. GC - 30 point loss
. GWS - small loss

Nobes should be looking at this block of games as trying to go 2-5 and keeping losses to less than 60 points. That would be considered a real win for the club from the current dire predicament and could set up the back part of the year with some hope.

To do that though he has to make meaningful decisions this week re personnel, team structure, game plan.

If he continues along the current path with the current players just going through the motions without trying to 'do something' then the pressure must build on Nobes and the entire football department.

 

[Bigeasy]

I grew up on a farm and next to our farm was a dairy with about 100 cows. I was always fascinated how the farmer was able to round up the cows on the farm so efficiently on a daily basis for milking.

As I went to school with the farmers son I was often down at that dairy. One day the farmers son and I had to herd the cows for milking and while he'd done it with his dad before, I had never herded cows before but I was excited to try.

We were about 10 or 11 yo at the time so off we went to herd the cows on foot like it's always done. This process usually takes 1 to an hour and a half to do but at the 1.5 hour mark of our quest we were still chasing cows who had moved away from the pack. We'd get one cow back and another gets away. There was no control and my mate kept yelling at me to get behind the pack but each time I did the pack would start to split. That's because I was too close to the pack according to the colourful feedback I copped at the time.

While it was the same cattle that were obedient and in unison when being managed by the farmer, they turned into disobedient, clueless stupid cows when the son and I did it. Some going that way, some going the other way and some just standing there looking at you like you're a complete moron.

David Nobel is the farmers son at present, knows what needs to be done but can't get the cows and his assistants to execute.

Unfortunately David doesn't have the luxury of the Farmers experience to lean on.

This will take time and more mistakes. Hang tight and support the team the best you can to at least the end of the year. He deserves at least that. You never know soon things may just start to click with individuals and as a team.

Up the mighty Kangas.

 

[Mav]

No quick fixes? How long does it take to learn to kick a 30 meter pass?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Mark is one of Snake’s harem.

The bloke that can barely string a sentence together has the peanut on his podcast.

There is a very small portion of angry non-north supporters online who want this club to fail.

Someone posted on BF where that degenerate said he’d have rather watched the club die than be run by a female and the Scanlans because… something something trans…feminist…

These people are very loud and will bomb every social media thread. Remind yourself they are not members, not supporters and don’t want the club to succeed.

We’ve undergone a rebuild with no safety net. Adelaide has tex Sloane. Hawthorn Gunston Mitchell Breust. Kayne ****ing turner is out vc.

It is darkest before dawn and it’s probably not at it’s darkest. My first game was over 30 years ago and this is the worst team.

We’ve spent the last 2 decades going for 8th. A lot of us wanted a rebuild. It will take years.

But hey… we’ve got a club and a future as the NMFC. This will turn.

Those mouthy whinging campaigners who form a very small minority can are irrelevant now.

This will turn. We’ll have a club and a team that will succeed. We want to see this, others don’t. Criticise all you want, don’t have your views clouded by the worst of our lot. This was expected.


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[Mav]

There is a very small portion of angry non-north supporters online who want this club to fail.

Someone posted on BF where that degenerate said he’d have rather watched the club die than be run by a female and the Scanlans because… something something trans…feminist…

These people are very loud and will bomb every social media thread. Remind yourself they are not members, not supporters and don’t want the club to succeed.

We’ve undergone a rebuild with no safety net. Adelaide has tex Sloane. Hawthorn Gunston Mitchell Breust. Kayne ******* turner is out vc.

It is darkest before dawn and it’s probably not at it’s darkest. My first game was over 30 years ago and this is the worst team.

We’ve spent the last 2 decades going for 8th. A lot of us wanted a rebuild. It will take years.

But hey… we’ve got a club and a future as the NMFC. This will turn.

Those mouthy whinging campaigners who form a very small minority can are irrelevant now.

This will turn. We’ll have a club and a team that will succeed. We want to see this, others don’t. Criticise all you want, don’t have your views clouded by the worst of our lot. This was expected.


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What makes you believe this will turn? My do you think this team will succeed?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

What makes you believe this will turn? My do you think this team will succeed?

NM is like a cockroach. We can’t be killed. There’s enough North people who will drive this to success.


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[Passmore]

At the start of the year, the perspective within Arden St would have to have been that David Noble would coach out the year no matter what. We all understand the situation with the list, and winning was not our highest priority anyway. David Noble's pass mark for 2022 was so low that it wasn't even worth discussing.

But now, I think we need to reassess the "no matter what part" and start asking the question of what David Noble needs to show to keep his job past the bye week. These are our next seven games that take us to the bye.

• Carlton at Marvel
• Fremantle at Optus
• Port Adelaide at Blundstone
• Melbourne at Marvel
• St Kilda at Marvel
• Gold Coast at TIO
• GWS at Marvel

Going back to David Noble's low pass mark, I think he is safe even if he loses all seven of these games. However, there are obviously different types of defeats. Three more 10 goal losses in this stretch would mean that we've had an equal amount of those defeats in 2022 than David Noble's first two years at Brisbane combined. Five more 10 goal losses in this stretch would mean that we'd have matched the 2013 Demons as far as number of 10 goal losses at the bye week when Mark Neeld was sacked in his second year.

David Noble's job was one of the safest at the start of the year, but we as a side needed to occasionally show some level of football competence. With how ugly the next five weeks could be, I think we need to be prepared for the conversation around David Noble being sacked midseason.

There'll be plenty of conversation in the media. King started it long ago. It's good business for them. They'd love a PL style coaching carousel.

The club will have enough strength and common sense not to be driven the media narrative.

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[Mav]

Melbourne’s team last night was, on average, 5 months older.

We had 2 more players with less than 50 games, 10 compared to 8. For players between 50 and 150 games, they had 2 more. We both had 2 players with more than 150 games experience.

Is this really the cause of the difference between top and bottom on the ladder? Half a season! Will we be pushing for the premiership next year?

There is way more to our poor performance than youth and inexperience and anyone ignoring this is kidding themselves.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Melbourne’s team last night was, on average, 5 months older.

We had 2 more players with less than 50 games, 10 compared to 8. For players between 50 and 150 games, they had 2 more. We both had 2 players with more than 150 games experience.

Is this really the cause of the difference between top and bottom on the ladder? Half a season! Will we be pushing for the premiership next year?

There is way more to our poor performance than youth and inexperience and anyone ignoring this is kidding themselves.

I don’t have the teams in front of me.

But players over 50 games. They had Oliver petracca Gawn Brayshaw may brown. That may be 6 of the comps best 30 players.plus experienced guns to come back in Salem viney lever.

We have Ziebell core greenwood goldy walker turner McDonald .

Cunners Polec Anderson hall to come back.

We have the worst list of experienced players I’ve ever seen. Playing them because we have nobody else.

Bard went for flags, never came close and once those blokes aged out we’re left with what we saw on Sunday


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[Sillygit]

Melbourne’s team last night was, on average, 5 months older.

We had 2 more players with less than 50 games, 10 compared to 8. For players between 50 and 150 games, they had 2 more. We both had 2 players with more than 150 games experience.

Is this really the cause of the difference between top and bottom on the ladder? Half a season! Will we be pushing for the premiership next year?

There is way more to our poor performance than youth and inexperience and anyone ignoring this is kidding themselves.

Uh yea, their players are better than our players. Their experienced players lift up the inexperienced players, ours do not. That's why the cull isn't over yet, and then there's gunna be time for those who are left to get experience, become those lifters. And its gunna suck in the mean time, but such is how shit our team is, that they dont even bother to ****ing play half the time, that its gotta be done.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Uh yea, their players are better than our players. Their experienced players lift up the inexperienced players, ours do not. That's why the cull isn't over yet, and then there's gunna be time for those who are left to get experience, become those lifters. And its gunna suck in the mean time, but such is how shit our team is, that they dont even bother to ******* play half the time, that its gotta be done.

Precisely. Jackson is a gun but has an easier ride with Gawn there. Guarantee JHF would look better is he was playing in melbournes midfield


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[Sillygit]

Precisely. Jackson is a gun but has an easier ride with Gawn there. Guarantee JHF would look better is he was playing in melbournes midfield


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Bowey too, kid hasnt even lost a game yet.

 

[Mav]

I don’t have the teams in front of me.

But players over 50 games. They had Oliver petracca Gawn Brayshaw may brown. That may be 6 of the comps best 30 players.plus experienced guns to come back in Salem viney lever.

We have Ziebell core greenwood goldy walker turner McDonald .

Cunners Polec Anderson hall to come back.

We have the worst list of experienced players I’ve ever seen. Playing them because we have nobody else.

Bard went for flags, never came close and once those blokes aged out we’re left with what we saw on Sunday


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Why did you leave Simpkin out? He's 8 months younger than Oliver and no where near being an A grade player. Cunners and Anderson are massive outs for us, but the issue is apart from LDU none of our players seem to be progressing.

So my point is, you cant just blame it on youth, like the club is doing.

I would love to know the KPI's that we're ahead on compared to last year like Noble talked about.

 

[LB2Snake]

Sounds cliche, but Melbourne, and most good clubs for that matter, do the basics right. Our basic skill levels are sub standard. That’s on coaching IMO. I’m just not convinced we have the same training standards of other clubs. No way.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Why did you leave Simpkin out? He's 8 months younger than Oliver and no where near being an A grade player. Cunners and Anderson are massive outs for us, but the issue is apart from LDU none of our players seem to be progressing.

So my point is, you cant just blame it on youth, like the club is doing.

I would love to know the KPI's that we're ahead on compared to last year like Noble talked about.

Fine, chuck Simpkin in.

Melbourne had a very bumpy road. Nowhere near a linear rise. Those guys seemed to be stagnating also.

We just have to keep nailing drafts. We’re at ground level. Won’t see results for a while.




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[Mav]

Uh yea, their players are better than our players. Their experienced players lift up the inexperienced players, ours do not. That's why the cull isn't over yet, and then there's gunna be time for those who are left to get experience, become those lifters. And its gunna suck in the mean time, but such is how shit our team is, that they dont even bother to ******* play half the time, that its gotta be done.

Yep, they are much better than us, but why? You make it sounds as if that "lifting" is only done in games. It's not. Its on the track, around the club and in the change rooms. It's not just the players either that do it. Its clear that standards aren't being met over and over again. Why is that?

I'm not expecting us to be sitting second on the ladder but I sure as hell don't expect us to be getting belted every second game. Seeing Adelaide fight tooth and nail to get over the doggies just fills me with fricken jealousy.

 

[Mav]

Fine, chuck Simpkin in.

Melbourne had a very bumpy road. Nowhere near a linear rise. Those guys seemed to be stagnating also.

We just have to keep nailing drafts. We’re at ground level. Won’t see results for a while.




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nailing drafts is only a part of it. Player development is just as important. Landon was a 3rd rounder. Neal-Bullen pick 40.

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Yep, they are much better than us, but why? You make it sounds as if that "lifting" is only done in games. It's not. Its on the track, around the club and in the change rooms. It's not just the players either that do it. Its clear that standards aren't being met over and over again. Why is that?

I'm not expecting us to be sitting second on the ladder but I sure as hell don't expect us to be getting belted every second game. Seeing Adelaide fight tooth and nail to get over the doggies just fills me with fricken jealousy.

Yep it’s the passion that hawthorn and Adelaide plays with that should be leaving us pissed off.


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[Mav]

Yep it’s the passion that hawthorn and Adelaide plays with that should be leaving us pissed off.


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yep, so dont give me this Youth, No Short Cuts or Quick Fixes rubbish. Show some fight like the Sydney game, every game.