No Oppo Supporters Non Bulldog Footy Talk - Bulldogs only - Part 5

[Snarls Barkley]

Might need to stop recruiting J.S’s lol

 

[Mofra]

Might need to stop recruiting J.S’s lol

Jhyly Sanders to Tasmania confirmed

 

[Chicago1]

Might need to stop recruiting J.S’s lol

Hey! Those are great initials!

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[Dogs 13]

Might need to stop recruiting J.S’s lol

Yeah, John Schultz nothing but trouble

 

[Scotch N Coke Monatore]

So could we just have a show of hands of those who thought we did the wrong thing by cutting JS?

Only because of the wisdom of hindsight. Hannan. VDM, Mcsteal, Schache, Gowers and someone called Mr Etcetera.

Imagine a Cody, Package and Westy forward line next year. Gets you salivating, doesn't it?

The Package: Return to sender.

 

[Unorth]

We were right to ditch Stringer, though from a leverage standpoint we did basically everything wrong lol. Not many coaches would have acted like Bevo did during that time, better or worse.

Believe we turned Stringer into Ed Richards

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and Schache? More or less. So worked out in the end.

It has been funny watching Essendon fans slowly realise what we all knew. What a waste of talent though, all the 2015 hype got to his head and never left it.

 

[Snarls Barkley]

We were right to ditch Stringer, though from a leverage standpoint we did basically everything wrong lol. Not many coaches would have acted like Bevo did during that time, better or worse.

Believe we turned Stringer into Ed Richards and Schache? More or less. So worked out in the end.

It has been funny watching Essendon fans slowly realise what we all knew. What a waste of talent though, all the 2015 hype got to his head and never left it.

More or less. Got 25 + 30 for Stringer. Traded 28 + 30 + future second for 16 (Richards) + 40. Then traded 25 + 40 for Schache. So Stringer + 28 + future second for Richards and Schache.

Apparently Dalrymple wasn't happy about trading for Schache because there was some players he liked in that range, think namely it was Ballard who went 42. Turned out to be a pretty impressive draft list from 24-33. Tim Kelly, Noah Balta, Liam Ryan, Brent Daniels, Sam Taylor, Charlie Spargo, Tom De Koning, Bailey Fritsch, Brayden Ainsworth, Tom McCartin. Some drafts 1-10 aren't as good as that list.

From the outside, very frustrating career to watch Stringer's. He's not alone but you really thought one day he would understand the work rate required and he'd consistently be at that AA level like a poor man's Dusty. It looked like in 2021 was the switch but think it was just for a new contract because he was back to lazy, overweight and injury riddled for the next preseasons.

 

[Libbaaaa]

We were right to ditch Stringer, though from a leverage standpoint we did basically everything wrong lol. Not many coaches would have acted like Bevo did during that time, better or worse.

Believe we turned Stringer into Ed Richards and Schache? More or less. So worked out in the end.

It has been funny watching Essendon fans slowly realise what we all knew. What a waste of talent though, all the 2015 hype got to his head and never left it.

His exit was such a mess, Jakey rocking up to that Trade Radio panel basically wearing a sign saying 'trade me' was awful as well.

 

[Mojorisin]

His exit was such a mess, Jakey rocking up to that Trade Radio panel basically wearing a sign saying 'trade me' was awful as well.

Will go down the same way this year, he doesnt know any other way.

 

[Norm De Guerre]

We were right to ditch Stringer, though from a leverage standpoint we did basically everything wrong lol. Not many coaches would have acted like Bevo did during that time, better or worse.

Believe we turned Stringer into Ed Richards and Schache? More or less. So worked out in the end.

It has been funny watching Essendon fans slowly realise what we all knew. What a waste of talent though, all the 2015 hype got to his head and never left it.

Our hands were tied and what leverage we had was only as strong as the reasons behind our wanting to offload such a high profile player stayed in house. A literal impossibility.

By the time it became known that his position had become untenable within the club the reasons for his departure were so well know within the industry that it was becoming known in the wider community. Indeed it was a long standing open secret in here. So any other club considering taking the risk either passed or was still trying to rebuild their list after being embroiled in the biggest drug scandal that the game has know.

By that point what little leverage we had dissipated like a fart in a cyclone.

I said at the time that history would judge him as a flash in the pan and nothing since has change my view.

 

[Scotch N Coke Monatore]

More or less. Got 25 + 30 for Stringer. Traded 28 + 30 + future second for 16 (Richards) + 40. Then traded 25 + 40 for Schache. So Stringer + 28 + future second for Richards and Schache.

Apparently Dalrymple wasn't happy about trading for Schache because there was some players he liked in that range, think namely it was Ballard who went 42. Turned out to be a pretty impressive draft list from 24-33. Tim Kelly, Noah Balta, Liam Ryan, Brent Daniels, Sam Taylor, Charlie Spargo, Tom De Koning, Bailey Fritsch, Brayden Ainsworth, Tom McCartin. Some drafts 1-10 aren't as good as that list.

From the outside, very frustrating career to watch Stringer's. He's not alone but you really thought one day he would understand the work rate required and he'd consistently be at that AA level like a poor man's Dusty. It looked like in 2021 was the switch but think it was just for a new contract because he was back to lazy, overweight and injury riddled for the next preseasons.

But Stringer just kicked 42 goals at 1.8 a game over 23 games.

Just get the Package sent back. We should be confident that he can be successfully mentored by any one of our leadership group. It would be the feel good story of the trade period.

 

[Mojorisin]

But Stringer just kicked 42 goals at 1.8 a game over 23 games.

Just get the Package sent back. We should be confident that he can be successfully mentored by any one of our leadership group. It would be the feel good story of the trade period.

Not talking about him personally or professionally because that's been done to death but onfield is he the kind we need? I don't think a forward who contributes nothing defensively is something we need.

 

[Scotch N Coke Monatore]

Not talking about him personally or professionally because that's been done to death but onfield is he the kind we need? I don't think a forward who contributes nothing defensively is something we need.

I think he could be a burst forward who plays about 50% game time and comes on for half of every quarter to throw his weight about, run hard and kick some of those great Package goals. You could interchange him with Vanders to get tactical contrasts.

 

[Next Waiting]

But Stringer just kicked 42 goals at 1.8 a game over 23 games.

Just get the Package sent back. We should be confident that he can be successfully mentored by any one of our leadership group. It would be the feel good story of the trade period.

Return to sender ... bah dum bah dum bah dum ...

 

[RWnBluey]

But Stringer just kicked 42 goals at 1.8 a game over 23 games.

Just get the Package sent back. We should be confident that he can be successfully mentored by any one of our leadership group. It would be the feel good story of the trade period.

Not sure if this is tongue in cheek but there’s zero chance of stringer ever returning to the club while Bevo is at the helm

 

[cecil]

In the Stringer trade thread there's a link to who he was apparently associated with and its a convicted murderer. I didn't want him before that and he's somehow made himself even less desirable.

 

[Iamspock]

Return to sender ... bah dum bah dum bah dum ...

I think the Lost Mail Dept. would be more appropriate.

 

[Next Waiting]

I think the Lost Mail Dept. would be more appropriate.

Over-sized package ... additional charge?

 

[Scotch N Coke Monatore]

Not sure if this is tongue in cheek but there’s zero chance of stringer ever returning to the club while Bevo is at the helm

Maybe you are right....pity.

 

[Scotch N Coke Monatore]

For awhile I thought that Stringer was an electrician. Because someone told me he had laid a cable in a team mate's locker.

 

[RWnBluey]

Maybe you are right....pity.

Not really the guy’s a POS

 

[Ash1337]

Steven King

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collapsed at the Cats training today. Hope he'll be ok. This reminds me the week of the Grand Final when it was announced he was leaving the kennel. I would be worried if I was a cats fans if history repeats itself and cats get rolled tomorrow.

 

[geoffjennings79]

Been sitting on this one for a few days, and only posting it without any specific details of the subject to show how easy it is sometimes to get pseudo-ITK info without even trying.

On Tuesday I was in Melbourne for an appt, then took the opportunity to catch up with a mate for coffee mid-arvo in an inner north cafe/eatery (a bit eclectic but nice setting).

Not many patrons, but we happened to sit a few tables away from what turned out to be a reasonably accomplished AFL player (not top tier, but not far off), with what eventually became clear was one of his parents and a sibling. As my mate and I talked, the conversation at the other table was mostly inaudible apart from an odd word here or there.

After 15mins or so, my mate took a family call and had to leave, so I sat for a few more mins finishing my caffeine fix, and idly checked my phone.

Suddenly with no mate to speak to, the establishment's acoustics came into play, and I was hearing the other table's convo very clearly. Nothing of any great importance, and ethically I won't share specifics here anyway, plus it's not really relevant to BF on either our board or even the player's club board. Basically there was some family chatter, and brief mention of a team-mate's extra-curricular activities (which elicited some disgust from the parent, and laughter from the sibling, but I missed a couple of key words as a staff member cleared another table! So I can't share it even if I wanted to!)

I was also actually getting embarrassed by then at inadvertently eavesdropping, and left shortly after, having to walk closer to their table as I did, but avoided eye contact and just walked out the door.

Now nothing I heard was of any great significance. But if I'd lingered longer, who knows? And they appeared completely oblivious to the fact I was hearing it like I was sitting amongst them. They weren't even speaking loudly. Lucky I'm not some 'journo'/germalist - I could try and fill in the words I missed and create a story out of nothing about the team mate!

Anyway, not even sure why I posted now, and far longer post than I intended. Should I have said anything to them as I left? (But I might go to the same place next time I'm in Melbourne though... who knows who I might see or what I might hear! )

Edit: re-reading it, it reads like a lengthy post about nothing. I wonder if there's a sitcom in it...

 

[threenewpadlocks]

Been sitting on this one for a few days, and only posting it without any specific details of the subject to show how easy it is sometimes to get pseudo-ITK info without even trying.

On Tuesday I was in Melbourne for an appt, then took the opportunity to catch up with a mate for coffee mid-arvo in an inner north cafe/eatery (a bit eclectic but nice setting).

Not many patrons, but we happened to sit a few tables away from what turned out to be a reasonably accomplished AFL player (not top tier, but not far off), with what eventually became clear was one of his parents and a sibling. As my mate and I talked, the conversation at the other table was mostly inaudible apart from an odd word here or there.

After 15mins or so, my mate took a family call and had to leave, so I sat for a few more mins finishing my caffeine fix, and idly checked my phone.

Suddenly with no mate to speak to, the establishment's acoustics came into play, and I was hearing the other table's convo very clearly. Nothing of any great importance, and ethically I won't share specifics here anyway, plus it's not really relevant to BF on either our board or even the player's club board. Basically there was some family chatter, and brief mention of a team-mate's extra-curricular activities (which elicited some disgust from the parent, and laughter from the sibling, but I missed a couple of key words as a staff member cleared another table! So I can't share it even if I wanted to!)

I was also actually getting embarrassed by then at inadvertently eavesdropping, and left shortly after, having to walk closer to their table as I did, but avoided eye contact and just walked out the door.

Now nothing I heard was of any great significance. But if I'd lingered longer, who knows? And they appeared completely oblivious to the fact I was hearing it like I was sitting amongst them. They weren't even speaking loudly. Lucky I'm not some 'journo'/germalist - I could try and fill in the words I missed and create a story out of nothing about the team mate!

Anyway, not even sure why I posted now, and far longer post than I intended. Should I have said anything to them as I left? (But I might go to the same place next time I'm in Melbourne though... who knows who I might see or what I might hear! )

Edit: re-reading it, it reads like a lengthy post about nothing. I wonder if there's a sitcom in it...

I once sat at a cafe overhearing what I figured out to be two different player managers. While they were in theory competing for clients etc, they were chatting as friends, but also helping each other out, by telling each other what they'd heard from clubs, and how each other's fringe talents may fit into each club ("this club is not handing out three year contracts to players like that" ... "yeah, they don't rate their young talent in [this posiiton] so that club may be looking for a few of the blokes you manage that play for this position".

It really made me understood a lot what people mean when they say "players have all the power" - players and their managers were almost manipulating the system to get a peek under the curtain as to what clubs want, even though they may not have realised that sharing some info in confidence in a contract negotiation or whatever would be shared widely. The nature of the conversation and the word were clear that they were sort of taking the piss a bit (the player managers) and were sharing stuff that should have been confidential.

A couple of weeks ago I also overhead AFL players but it's the ones without any personality so their conversation was just about American sports - wild, I know.

My two examples wasn't inner north but it was inner city where you wouldn't expect AFL players to live. It's funny how they sometimes let their guard down if they feel like they're in an environment where they don't expect AFL fans to be, and some inner-city suburbs fit that absolutely.

 

[geoffjennings79]

I once sat at a cafe overhearing what I figured out to be two different player managers. While they were in theory competing for clients etc, they were chatting as friends, but also helping each other out, by telling each other what they'd heard from clubs, and how each other's fringe talents may fit into each club ("this club is not handing out three year contracts to players like that" ... "yeah, they don't rate their young talent in [this posiiton] so that club may be looking for a few of the blokes you manage that play for this position".

It really made me understood a lot what people mean when they say "players have all the power" - players and their managers were almost manipulating the system to get a peek under the curtain as to what clubs want, even though they may not have realised that sharing some info in confidence in a contract negotiation or whatever would be shared widely. The nature of the conversation and the word were clear that they were sort of taking the piss a bit (the player managers) and were sharing stuff that should have been confidential.

A couple of weeks ago I also overhead AFL players but it's the ones without any personality so their conversation was just about American sports - wild, I know.

My two examples wasn't inner north but it was inner city where you wouldn't expect AFL players to live. It's funny how they sometimes let their guard down if they feel like they're in an environment where they don't expect AFL fans to be, and some inner-city suburbs fit that absolutely.

I was in Thornbury/Northcote on Tuesday. Used to live in the area for many years 90s/2000s. When i was in my 20s I share-housed in North Fitzroy (mid/late 80s). Both areas you'd literally bump into VFL/AFL players. And musos!