Opinion Non-Crows AFL 4: The Centre Cannot Hold

[1970crow]

I'll take it for this years draft. Please and thank you.

One of the greatest TV characters of all time.

 

[Bearded Clam]

I think at worse they just won't let it go through and Brisbane will be stuck with Joe on the salary cap for the big dollars.

and this is what should happen anyway.. so it stretches their salary cap and they potentially lose a player or two over it.

bombers should lose a first round pick to make up for the one they scammed.

 

[jimvic]

Wouldn't be surprised to see Geelong tail off in the latter half of the season when the older bodies tire.

when the ground gets softer and their Zimmer frames get stuck in the mud they should slow down

 

[Sanders]

If I had someone in my friendship group that could sell someone out like that, I would want to have nothing to do with him.

Its not even taking the high moral ground either, the guy who had this recording, sat on it and waited for the perfect moment.

You don’t know that.

We don’t know when it was said, and when it got out

Just as likely that it escaped captivity a while back, done a few rounds, and someone has been sitting on it for who knows how long?

Unless I’m mistaken, there’s no reason to assume that this all happened just now

 

[GROTTO]

You don’t know that.

We don’t know when it was said, and when it got out

Just as likely that it escaped captivity a while back, done a few rounds, and someone has been sitting on it for who knows how long?

Unless I’m mistaken, there’s no reason to assume that this all happened just now

You dont know that it didnt, that I know for a fact.

Its been suggested from the Main forum from someone "close" this is exactly how it panned out.

 

[Sanders]

If they’ve changed the terms of his 2022 and 2023 payments I agree it’s dodgy, but if it’s just adding two more years - not sure what the issue is.

In theory yes, but if the 2 year “extension” is at strangely lower money - for no obvious reason - it starts to look like a front loaded 5 year deal. For example

Year 1 - 750k
Year 2 - 750k
Year 3 - 750k

Then out of nowhere, for no obvious or discernible reason, after year 1 suddenly you add

Year 4 - 300k
Year 5 - 300k

Then the contract looks $570k per year, not $750k

And why? Why suddenly after year 1 would daniher agree to these future years at much lower $$? Unless it was the deal all along

The numbers are illustrative, but they show how tacking on a couple of extra years isn’t all that innocent either.

 

[Sanders]

You dont know that it didnt, that I know for a fact.

Its been suggested from the Main forum from someone "close" this is exactly how it panned out.

Read what I said again. There is no reason to assume, it could be any number of ways.

 

[Bearded Clam]

In theory yes, but if the 2 year “extension” is at strangely lower money - for no obvious reason - it starts to look like a front loaded 5 year deal. For example

Year 1 - 750k
Year 2 - 750k
Year 3 - 750k

Then out of nowhere, for no obvious or discernible reason, after year 1 suddenly you add

Year 4 - 300k
Year 5 - 300k

Then the contract looks $570k per year, not $750k

And why? Why suddenly after year 1 would daniher agree to these future years at much lower $$? Unless it was the deal all along

The numbers are illustrative, but they show how tacking on a couple of extra years isn’t all that innocent either.

yep… completely gamed the system..

 

[GROTTO]

Read what I said again. There is no reason to assume, it could be any number of ways.

I did, I have, I am telling you that is what has been discussed on the Main Forum.

 

[Sanders]

I did, I have, I am telling you that is what has been discussed on the Main Forum.

Well, if it’s being “discussed” on the “main” forum…

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Port will make him wear a guernsey and stand in the front row. 4D chess.

We would then kick it out on the full more than we did on the weekend... which was a lot!

 

[Peter Doherty]

Why did Brisbane announce the additional two years this early?

Why didn't they just let the contract run out then add on two more years?

The timing of it really does make it look like a 5 year deal all along.

 

[DJ75]

One of the greatest TV characters of all time.

Finally!

 

[SugarShane]

Why did Brisbane announce the additional two years this early?

Why didn't they just let the contract run out then add on two more years?

The timing of it really does make it look like a 5 year deal all along.

Seems very amateur. Was David Noble still there when the deal was done?

Maybe it was heavily front loaded and Daniher didn't want to spread it too thin over the last 3 years.

 

[SugarShane]

I think at worse they just won't let it go through and Brisbane will be stuck with Joe on the salary cap for the big dollars.

Joe probably leaked it himself

 

[Gtowncrow]

Yeah..imagine if it was us, they would be attacking us from the rooftops through every media mouthpiece

Where's Tom Morris gone?

Crickets

And just when we need him too...

 

[Sanders]

I did, I have, I am telling you that is what has been discussed on the Main Forum.

Gotta say I can’t see it. Been trawling, but got nowhere. If you’ve got some links I’d be interested

 

[Punchy Bassett]

So Duursma not injured at all? And Robinson is suspended for simply standing still?

 

[footy4ever]

So Duursma not injured at all? And Robinson is suspended for simply standing still?

Suspended by going low to prevent head high contact, turning to protect himself and bracing for Duursma's dive.

AFL fkwits.

 

[Thetrader15]

Why did Brisbane announce the additional two years this early?

Why didn't they just let the contract run out then add on two more years?

The timing of it really does make it look like a 5 year deal all along.

"Nah it wasn't really...we promise"

 

[Thetrader15]

I think at worse they just won't let it go through and Brisbane will be stuck with Joe on the salary cap for the big dollars.

I don't think they can change the first 3 years of payments now, once it's a FA deal, it's locked in. However, if they now say the last 2 years are on 300k, then it's totally different. Joe wouldn't agree to that if it was a new deal, only if it was agreed as a 5 year deal front ended in the first place.

IMO, it's pretty obvious what's happening here, and if true, the AFL need to suspend the people involved and sanction Brisbane for draft tampering.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Suspended by going low to prevent head high contact, turning to protect himself and bracing for Duursma's dive.

AFL fkwits.

This is where their stupidity is amplified.

A players first duty should be to protect himself. Then to not put another player in danger.

Just like the Mackay bump, you don’t punish a player bracing for impact to avoid injury if the other player is reckless and gets themselves injured.

 

[edge of reason]

I don't think they can change the first 3 years of payments now, once it's a FA deal, it's locked in. However, if they now say the last 2 years are on 300k, then it's totally different. Joe wouldn't agree to that if it was a new deal, only if it was agreed as a 5 year deal front ended in the first place.

IMO, it's pretty obvious what's happening here, and if true, the AFL need to suspend the people involved and sanction Brisbane for draft tampering.

Didn't Richmond & Hawthorn orchestrate front loading the RFA contract of Ty Vickery so Richmond got a higher compensation pick? The AFL did their usual "nothing to see here", so I'm guessing the vAFL wont show any interest in this.

 

[Crow till I die]

I don't think they can change the first 3 years of payments now, once it's a FA deal, it's locked in. However, if they now say the last 2 years are on 300k, then it's totally different. Joe wouldn't agree to that if it was a new deal, only if it was agreed as a 5 year deal front ended in the first place.

IMO, it's pretty obvious what's happening here, and if true, the AFL need to suspend the people involved and sanction Brisbane AND ESSENSON for draft tampering.

FTFY

 

[MarcusP2]

I don't think they can change the first 3 years of payments now, once it's a FA deal, it's locked in. However, if they now say the last 2 years are on 300k, then it's totally different. Joe wouldn't agree to that if it was a new deal, only if it was agreed as a 5 year deal front ended in the first place.

IMO, it's pretty obvious what's happening here, and if true, the AFL need to suspend the people involved and sanction Brisbane for draft tampering.

Isn't this the Ball situation again?

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