Opinion Non-Crows AFL 6: This Is Getting Cruel

[FR0GGY]

Cheers Richie..great work

Former Crow explains why Port seems more desirable than Adelaide

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What about that port pay their average players less, unless they trade them in.

Ah I can see why that’s not a positive for port in relation to you Richie .

 

[dogs105]

Pick 27 is pretty fair for Amon. Surely Port aren't complaining...

Some mod named after a car reckons they should have hidden the "Port" part of their name.

Obviously because the AFL has done huge favours to Adelaide with FA compo...

Starting back with Chris Knights being the first player to not get any compo.

 

[CrowsB4hoes]

Second rounder for Amon confirmed on the AFL site..

Anyone seen Davies?… is he ok?..

guessing it will be the Amon pick plus another second round pick for Rioli

 

[Dirty Bird]

Some mod named after a car reckons they should have hidden the "Port" part of their name.

Obviously because the AFL has done huge favours to Adelaide with FA compo...

Starting back with Chris Knights being the first player to not get any compo.

I had to see it with my own eyes.

Talk about delusional.

 

[chrisso crow]

To be expected.

The belief from Port supporters that they were going to receive a first round pick for Amon was sheer delusion.

It's not easy to get a first round compensation pick for a player unless they're receiveda massive offer. That's why Geelong getting one for Motlop for the price that the Port claimed they were paying him never quite added up, unless you factor in Port's history of feeding bullshit to the media by under quoting contract figures and then it begins to make sense.

I think the reason Cats got a 1st rounder for Motlop was so that they could conveniently trade that to GC for Ablett.

It had nothing to do with contract size or value.

 

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Some mod named after a car reckons they should have hidden the "Port" part of their name.

Obviously because the AFL has done huge favours to Adelaide with FA compo...

Starting back with Chris Knights being the first player to not get any compo.

I love how people on their board are now crying about the Motlop compensation pick and claiming some sort of AFL conspiracy.

I cannot believe how the penny has not dropped yet for any of them that the reason why Geelong got a first round pick is because Port were paying Motlop 650k+.

We all know what happened, the Crows offered Motlop 600k and Port panicked and countered with a monster offer to get his signature. It's not really rocket science, surely they don't honestly believe that the AFL just magically gave Geelong a first round pick for no reason do they?

This is just taking the insanity of #portlogic to a whole new level.

 

[50BC]

I said weeks ago the contract value being talked about for Amon would absolutely equal band 3 ( 2nd rd pick). Surprising how many people wanted to argue against that despite the precedents.

 

[jo172]

I think the reason Cats got a 1st rounder for Motlop was so that they could conveniently trade that to GC for Ablett.

It had nothing to do with contract size or value.

Exactly.

Same reason the pick for Frawley was good and the pick for Crouch was poo.

It's the AFL with a complicated formula that they ultimately divide by zero and then replace with a pick to assist them in picking a winner in whatever narrative they wish to pursue at the moment.

 

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I think the reason Cats got a 1st rounder for Motlop was so that they could conveniently trade that to GC for Ablett.

It had nothing to do with contract size or value.

You don't honestly think that Motlop knocked back 600k from us only to sign with Port for 100k less a year do you?

Which is more likely to have happened?

Scenario A

Motlop knocks back a 600k a year offer from the Crows, accepts a deal that's 100k less a year from Port and the AFL underhandedly just gives Geelong a first round pick that they haven't earned.

or

Scenario B

Port panic that Motlop is going to sign with Adelaide so they increase their offer to blow ours out the water to get his signature and his contract falls into line of the criteria for a band 2 pick

 

[hippyhippy]

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Wait... they really were expecting a first?

 

[Vader]

You don't honestly think that Motlop knocked back 600k from us only to sign with Port for 100k less a year do you?

Which is more likely to have happened?

Scenario A

Motlop knocks back a 600k a year offer from the Crows, accepts a deal that's 100k less a year from Port and the AFL underhandedly just gives Geelong a first round pick that they haven't earned.

or

Scenario B

Port panic that Motlop is going to sign with Adelaide so they increase their offer to blow ours out the water to get his signature and his contract falls into line of the criteria for a band 2 pick

You do realise that these two statements aren't contradictory - Port making a bigger offer, and the AFL making it's decision based entirely on Geelong's needs (regardless of Port's contract)?

Adelaide's offer of $600K would probably only have been enough for band 3 compensation. Port no doubt went higher, but high enough to justify Geelong getting band 1? That's highly fanciful. Even $700K, which is $100K more than Adelaide's offer, wouldn't have been enough to justify band 1 compensation.

 

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You do realise that these two statements aren't contradictory - Port making a bigger offer, and the AFL making it's decision based entirely on Geelong's needs (regardless of Port's contract)?

He said that the decision was not based on the contract so yes it does contradict.

I think the opposite, I think it definitely was based off of his contract and I don't think for a second that it's any stretch of the imagination to believe that Motlop was offered a contract from Port that fell into the band 2 bracket.

i called it from the minute that the compensation for Motlop was announced that Port had been caught out.

 

[Vader]

He said that the decision was not based on the contract so yes it does contradict.

I think the opposite, I think it definitely was based off of his contract and I don't think for a second that it's any stretch of the imagination to believe that Motlop was offered a contract from Port that fell into the band 2 bracket.

i called it from the minute that the compensation for Motlop was announced that Port had been caught out.

How does it contradict? He's not saying that Port didn't make him a much bigger offer than Adelaide, or that it was much bigger than Port have publicly admitted - just that the FA compensation Geelong received wasn't based on the size of the contract, but their need to obtain a pick to bring Ablett home.

Nothing in chrisso's statement contradicts your claims, and nothing in your version contradicts theirs.

 

[Scorpus]

You do realise that these two statements aren't contradictory - Port making a bigger offer, and the AFL making it's decision based entirely on Geelong's needs (regardless of Port's contract)?

Adelaide's offer of $600K would probably only have been enough for band 3 compensation. Port no doubt went higher, but high enough to justify Geelong getting band 1? That's highly fanciful. Even $700K, which is $100K more than Adelaide's offer, wouldn't have been enough to justify band 1 compensation.

They didn't get band 1 for Motlop, they got band 2, end of first round

 

[Vader]

They didn't get band 1 for Motlop, they got band 2, end of first round

Even so... an additional $100K on top of Adelaide's offer wouldn't have got them band 2.

 

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Even so... an additional $100K on top of Adelaide's offer wouldn't have got them band 2.

Don't forget that we're talking about 5 years ago.

Rockliff's offer (the same year) was apparently 650-700k and Brisbane received a Band 2 compensation pick.

That means Motlop's offer only had to reach that territory to meet the criteria, we were offering 600k so it's not a stretch that Port went to 650k in order to get his signature.

 

[GreyCrow]

Pick 27 is pretty fair for Amon. Surely Port aren't complaining...

I think Davies played it well

Gave the AFL an idea of what Port expected and can point to 27 as being fair and reasonable.

NOw it was a while ago so I could be mistaken but I don't recall hearing from our club regarding B Crouch and what we valued him at

IT might sound like whinging but Davies knows that public utterances get more traction to han quiet words

 

[50BC]

Don't forget that we're talking about 5 years ago.

Rockliff's offer (the same year) was apparently 650-700k and Brisbane received a Band 2 compensation pick.

That means Motlop's offer only had to reach that territory to meet the criteria, we were offering 600k so it's not a stretch that Port went to 650k in order to get his signature.

Don't forget that we're talking about 5 years ago.

Rockliff's offer (the same year) was apparently 650-700k and Brisbane received a Band 2 compensation pick.

That means Motlop's offer only had to reach that territory to meet the criteria, we were offering 600k so it's not a stretch that Port went to 650k in order to get his signature.

$650K 5 years ago would equivalent to $700k today. That would be band 2 today (if that's what he got)

 

[MRB37]

Trouble, trouble, trouble.

 

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Not sure why Port didn't work with Hawthorn to do a 'Daniher' by maybe taking a salary dump player and have Hawthorn offer a shorter term contract at a higher level and then a week after the deal is done, wander down to AFL house to add extra years at a lower rate to the deal. I mean Essendon have reaped the benefits of it so why shouldn't everyone else

Both scenarios are totally unrelated.

Daniher was a restricted free agent and Essendon were threatening to match so Brisbane worked with them to ensure that they got a high enough compensation pick.

Karl Amon is an unrestricted free agent so Port didn't have any influence over the contract. Amon was able to agree to any deal on the table and Port just had to accept whatever it was because it didn't have ability to be able to match to force the deal higher.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

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Straight to Richmond for Graham...

 

[Geoffa32]

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That's cruel.....

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[MarcusP2]

Trouble, trouble, trouble.

lol 10 seconds before Sheedy is white anting the coach.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

guessing it will be the Amon pick plus another second round pick for Rioli

Doubt it.

Amon compo for Graham.

Future 2nd perhaps for Rioli, with a future 4th coming back.

 

[Geoffa32]

Young Dougie obviously starting to work out what you need to say to get a job in the footy media in SA.

Crocmedia....


No doubt Port Board member Cos Cardone wrote the notes for him.

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