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Cameron also put.Brockman out for 4 weeks or the season by accidentally or not accidentally treading on his ankle.
Perhaps he’s not such a good guy after all.
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There was a couple of Brissy players standing on feet, Happened to Hutch I think as well.
I believe it's contraception that helmets make a difference with
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As they would too, if they at work hit someone in the head.
The AFL is at sixes and sevens on this one, verbally insult or slur someone, gets greater punishment than physically assaulting someone.
As had been said before in this thread, it's the lack of parity and equity in the distinction between a verbal and a physical offence that is the issue, none here are excusing or defending the verbal assault.
In the community, I ask you this - are you more likely to go to prison for calling someone a derogatory name or make a racial slur, or punching someone ?
I think we all know the answer to the question that I posed.
So by virtue of the weight of severity of the suspension, the AFL are making a statement that verbal abuse is more heinous than physical abuse.
And then of course there is that additional problematic and hypocritical technicality, if you want to bring the workplace is as an illustrative example.
In the AFL
If your management you get a lighter punishment - Clarkson.
While the worker, cops a more severe and punitive suspension.
It gets worse, when you doubled that, with the fact that one is a serial offender of AFL, code of conduct breaches - Clarkson
The other a first offender.
The duplicity of AFL is once agin, in the spotlight.
You have to give the AFL one plaudit, they are consistently inconsistent.
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No difference whatsoever? Don’t even have potential to reduce severity?
I’m not a doctor but I understand basic physics. I’ve googled the subject of helmets and concussion and have found a few bald assertions and some conflicting conclusions.
If concussion occurs when the brain bounces around the skull, it’s unclear to me why a helmet with heavy padding that absorbs impact could not reduce the force with which the brain impacts the skull.
I’m aware that some AFL players who’ve worn helmets have still suffered concussion. That of itself isn’t conclusive of the question.
I assume a punch to the head could cause concussion. But if I held a cushion to my head and the same punch hit the cushion, then the force of the punch would dissipate. Presumably the risk of concussion would reduce, or at least the severity in that scenario?
No difference to change severity.
The medical research is unequivocal. Cushioning does Nothing to blunt the brain rattling inside it's casing.
Look no further than the last paddy mccartin concussion incident that ultimately was his last game.
The association of padded headgear with concussion and injury risk in junior Australian football: A prospective cohort study
To assess whether padded headgear was associated with incidence of suspected sports-related concussion, non-sports-related concussion head injury, and…
Evaluation of protective equipment for prevention of injuries in rugby union - PubMed
The protective equipment used in rugby union has limited effectiveness in preventing injuries. The results are supportive, however, of a role for mouthguards and padded headgear in preventing orofacial and scalp injuries, respectively, and for support sleeves in preventing sprains and strains.
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Helmets and Mouth Guards: The Role of Personal Equipment in Preventing Sport-Related Concussions
Every year, millions of athletes in the United States experience concussions. With athletes at all levels of play getting bigger, faster, and stronger, it has been suggested that newer technologies may provide an opportunity to reduce the risk and severity ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Watch this to see the mechanics of concussion
What all of the anecdotal evidence at grassroots footy shows though, is that when you mandate helmets in kids, they don't protect themselves going in for the ball and have a greater incident of head knocks and collision injuries.
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Why not have penetrometer readings before each game.
Like horse racing.
Drench the ovals so it's a constant "heavy 10"
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Like horse racing.
Drench the ovals so it's a constant "heavy 10"
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Would love to know why UFC hasn't been bankrupted by concussion claims, or at least why they seem unconcerned by the risk given they haven't banned head strikes (hell you can knee an opponent to the head and its applauded)?
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Happy to be corrected but I believe Boxing and MMA etc have special rules outside of the law for them to take part in. As you can't allow yourself by law to get punched in the face. The law has the right to charge the person whether you wanted it or not.
Those sports are mandated so that assault can take place and both parties are aware of it going into the ring.
I would assume it's not ideal for footy to go that route as you will reduce the number of people who want to play the game if that's the view you take.
That's why there was a grey area when Hall hit Staker as it wasn't really a footy act and more an assault. From a legal perspective Hall could have been charged but the police were happy with the fact the AFL were going to hand out a punishment etc under the games rules. But they could have.
Those sports are mandated so that assault can take place and both parties are aware of it going into the ring.
I would assume it's not ideal for footy to go that route as you will reduce the number of people who want to play the game if that's the view you take.
That's why there was a grey area when Hall hit Staker as it wasn't really a footy act and more an assault. From a legal perspective Hall could have been charged but the police were happy with the fact the AFL were going to hand out a punishment etc under the games rules. But they could have.
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If better tackling technique can prevent concussions, why wouldn't we want that taught?
It's a brilliant bit of info but in the heat of battle with 0.5 seconds to act... c'mon. Like someone said, height and weight calculations etc
Rugby League hits hard in tackles but penalties for error or poor technique are very tough. Players will adapt quickly, coaches on $1m will sort it out quickly. Shep and others remind the AFL they cannot turn back.
I don’t disagree, but the biggest potential improvement in limiting head injuries is rules and umpiring (fyi this is a crack at current rules, not umpires who have a horrifically difficult job).
Momentum to me seems the #1 indicator of whether there is a head injury or not. Not a lot of guys who get tackled standing and remain standing get concussed. If a player slings them then yes it happens (and the rules are sufficient for that I think).
Next one is where a player is not standing still. Have they had any prior and not disposed of the ball?
No - currently blowing the whistle for a ball up a bit faster - but make it even quicker again (and to keep the game moving remove the nomination rule and throw it up/in immediately).
Yes - maybe 1 second then HTB… does this stop HR a little, yep, but also stops most tackles needing to take a player to ground. Note that the player still gets PRIOR opportunity, just not a second 360 (or even 180) once tackled.
Cameron one could have been avoided, Bedford on I think still occurs under the above (not sure it is ever avoidable..)
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That's why it needs to be trained, preferably at all levels.
With players getting suspended left and right the motivation to learn better technique is high. My problem with the Bedford tackle was around the lack of alternative. This shows there is a clear alternative that just needs to be taught.
Won't stop the complaining about suspensions immediately but at least there's a path forward that protects players and doesn't stop players tackling. At least for this type of tackle.
I just don’t think Bedford’s technique was that bad. Viney’s brother’s demos are done standing still, it’s a bit different when you’re running and chasing someone. I agree that poor technique should be trained out though, so long as supposed good technique is actually achievable on-field.
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Except he's leaving out the height/weight difference between the two.
The technique is sound but Bedford doesn't have the leverage Cripps does to be able to be more upright in the tackle allowing him to get his legs under him while dropping.
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Pretty sure I saw Dom Sheed trying this in 2023.tackling in 2026:
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