Mega Thread Non-Freo AFL Discussion 2023

[BeinPurplenGreen]

I am expecting St Kilda to tire heavily in the second half of the season too, all those clubs who play them early get the high pressure slog and the ones at the back walk through them.

Need to balance that against the sheer number of talented players that St Kilda are due to get back from injury over the next few weeks.

In true Rossco style, his results so far are built on squeezing every drop of talent out of mid ranking and fringe players.
If they can get some of their key injured blokes back, and not have too many more injuries, they could actually hit the second half of the season fresher than many of the other teams.

Agree that it is more likely that they hit a wall and win one or two of their last 7 or so though.

 

[sumavich]

Toast asking for an extra home game coz of Gather Round being in Radelaide.
Reckon we will too.
We travel the most, and need something from the AFL as well

 

[Docker82]

Adelaide had pick #4, then traded #23, #37, #44, #62, #66 and future 4th rounder for Melbourne's future first and pick #33

Adelaide finished 15th that year and ahead of them in the preseason draft was North, Collingwood and Gold Coast - with Dawson going home to SA.


Based on current ladder, West Coast could get a similar deal for Pickett or any out of contract player they had lured over.

Tbf Adelaide probably remembered the Kurt Tippett negotiations and thought they might be a bunch of w***ers just like Sydney was to them.

The Dawson trade is nothing but karma.

 

[Kram]

Geezus is there a bigger sycophant than Gerard Twateley.

 

[s_wd6]

Toast asking for an extra home game coz of Gather Round being in Radelaide.
Reckon we will too.
We travel the most, and need something from the AFL as well

Hope that forces Garlick to say something too. He’s way too passive.

 

[tacopavlich]

Some strange revisionist stuff going here, he had Fyfe, Mundy and Neale in the midfield those years and still couldn’t work out a winning game plan. Ditched some solid soldiers in De Boer, Barlow and Muz, not to mention Sam Collins and others. In favour or Crozier and Sheridan. Yet people’s are defending him.
He was done here and is responsible for a half hearted rebuild that included bringing players like Kirsten, Bennell, Hogan and Lobb to try and salvage his own job despite never taking ownership of the debacle that was the 2016 preseason when he left Hale in charge.
People seem to have very short memories around here.

Feel free to disagree but there's nothing revisionist in my post, my position in 2023 is exactly the same as it was in 2017 and 2019. That's why I'm not interested in revisiting the same arguments from 4 years ago.

 

[#1JohnHuttonFan]

Toast asking for an extra home game coz of Gather Round being in Radelaide.
Reckon we will too.
We travel the most, and need something from the AFL as well

Actually pretty funny. Just watching on the couch and Gary Lyon and Nathan Buckley think Melbourne played like a side who had just had a long flight from Perth? Are they serious? Oh those poor victorians having to travel once a year to WA!


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[bfff]

Geezus is there a bigger sycophant than Gerard Twateley.

No there is not

 

[Docker82]

Some strange revisionist stuff going here, he had Fyfe, Mundy and Neale in the midfield those years and still couldn’t work out a winning game plan. Ditched some solid soldiers in De Boer, Barlow and Muz, not to mention Sam Collins and others. In favour or Crozier and Sheridan. Yet people’s are defending him.
He was done here and is responsible for a half hearted rebuild that included bringing players like Kirsten, Bennell, Hogan and Lobb to try and salvage his own job despite never taking ownership of the debacle that was the 2016 preseason when he left Hale in charge.
People seem to have very short memories around here.

I’d 100% ditch De Boer and Mzungu ahead of Crozier if the time came again.

Collins was a victim of a dumbarse ‘best available at all costs’ policy (could be better described as ‘safest pick possible’ policy) that is still haunting us. That policy landed on two KPFs in the first two rounds in 20 years (Ryan Murphy and Adam Campbell lol). Don’t know how much Ross Lyon can be blamed for that.

Having all that he had to go when he did. For me the media made it so - they were determined to destroy the club from the outside whilst Lyon was coach. Now it ain’t so bad.

 

[Demons09]

I see WC are asking for this weeks Wafl game against Old East to be postponed bit unfair as Old East stand to lose a shit load of % which WP has already accrued to bad i reckon wanted to be a stand alone team they can suffer.

 

[Rob]

Didn't they make the current grand final agreement as their contribution to the MCG redevelopment? (first Great Southern Stand and second new Ponsord and Members stand)

Might be wrong, but I though the reason the MCG redevelopment got funded by the Vic government was because the VFL and then AFL agreed to keep the GF in Melbourne

The first one was signed when it was still the VFL. Different times. It was a terrible agreement that lacked foresight.

The 2nd one was signed behind closed doors in return for the Vic government doing something it should be doing anyway. It was at best incompetence, at worst corruption.

 

[royale with cheese]

Collins was a victim of a dumbarse ‘best available at all costs’ policy (could be better described as ‘safest pick possible’ policy) that is still haunting us. That policy landed on two KPFs in the first two rounds in 20 years (Ryan Murphy and Adam Campbell lol). Don’t know how much Ross Lyon can be blamed for that.

Collins was taken one pick before Jordan Dawson, who tore us up when we played Adelaide. Which is why I don't accept this revisionism that our poor drafting was out of our hands - lots of teams found value in those drafts while we didn't.

Ross wasn't left with much when we went into the rebuild - very little quality taken by us between 2011-2015

 

[Steinfreo]

Do you honestly think that the AFL would leave money on the table?

They are pretty bad at many things, but not at finding a dollar.

Who knows what the deal is, but I bet that SA are now paying more that $14m a year for the next three years.

Its a shame because it would have been great to have the event in WA. But last year our state government was playing checkers while the South Australians were playing chess.

Imagine if we had a state government who aggressively pursued Gather Round last year. Perth could now be the host city for the next three years.

Should be rotated every year. Watch attendance tank for gather round next year.

 

[masai tu]

I see WC are asking for this weeks Wafl game against Old East to be postponed bit unfair as Old East stand to lose a s**t load of % which WP has already accrued to bad i reckon wanted to be a stand alone team they can suffer.

What reasons are the Eagles giving ?.

They can still field an Eaglettes side, pure shite team, but they can still field a team.

The Gummies are filing their teeth, anticipating turning into a school of blood letting predators.

 

[Demons09]

What reasons are the Eagles giving ?.

They can still field an Eaglettes side, pure shite team, but they can still field a team.

The Gummies are filing their teeth, anticipating turning into a school of blood letting predators.

Unable to field a competitive side is my guess.

 

[Rob]

Now they're bringing the WAFL into disrepute

 

[fnerd]

Collins was a victim of a dumbarse ‘best available at all costs’ policy (could be better described as ‘safest pick possible’ policy) that is still haunting us. That policy landed on two KPFs in the first two rounds in 20 years (Ryan Murphy and Adam Campbell lol).

Or from a shit recruiters POV
“the best bet pick to keep my job policy”

Adrian Dodoros made a career out of it.

 

[wirra44]

Hope that forces Garlick to say something too. He’s way too passive.

Nah mate only us your fans on facebook don’t seem to want it, they seem to think where just asking for it is because of our injury list

 

[s_wd6]

Nah mate only us your fans on facebook don’t seem to want it, they seem to think where just asking for it is because of our injury list

you don't really find the smartest folk over there

 

[Ge3ks]

Unable to field a competitive side is my guess.

Gee, must be nice to decide not to show up if you reckon you can't win.

 

[Madas]

Gee, must be nice to decide not to show up if you reckon you can't win.

Wank Coast Entitlement taken to another level.
“If we can’t win we just won’t turn up “

 

[FreoRicci]

Adelaide had pick #4, then traded #23, #37, #44, #62, #66 and future 4th rounder for Melbourne's future first and pick #33

Adelaide finished 15th that year and ahead of them in the preseason draft was North, Collingwood and Gold Coast - with Dawson going home to SA.


Based on current ladder, West Coast could get a similar deal for Pickett or any out of contract player they had lured over.

Adelaide must thank their lucky stars that North didn’t accept the ridiculous trade they offered a few years ago.
Read somewhere that the picks they used and traded others instead gained them Rachele, Rankine and Dawson.

 

[FreoRicci]

I see WC are asking for this weeks Wafl game against Old East to be postponed bit unfair as Old East stand to lose a s**t load of % which WP has already accrued to bad i reckon wanted to be a stand alone team they can suffer.

West coast’s fault.
No colts, no reserves, no structures in place for promotion of youth like normal WAFL sides.
Glad Fremantle stood by Peel for this reason

 

[masai tu]

West coast’s fault.
No colts, no reserves, no structures in place for promotion of youth like normal WAFL sides.
Glad Fremantle stood by Peel for this reason

In relation to the WAFL, the AFL teams (mainly you know who),got greedy and wanted everything 100% to their benefit.

By farming out AFL listed players to the WAFL clubs, they got 75% perfection. Players got to play in their preferred position, developed and now and then came up against an AFL team mate competing for a similar position. Kept the WAFL skill bank at a good level and the AFL teams got to see their players mixing / teaming up with hardened senior players.

You don’t know what you had, until you throw it away. The Eagles had a system which was 75% to their benefit, by pushing for 100% their way, they have imploded “their preferred reserves structure”.

 

[royale with cheese]

If you can't field a team you should fold as a club. Good bye West Coast.