Non Lions Discussion 2024

[martinson]

Rubbish 50 donating a goal to the Blues.

So soft

Hogan was lucky with the last one .

Looked like a legit. spoil perfectly timed.

 

[Dalions]

Carlton can’t win the Premiership with their defensive profile.

 

[luthor]

Umpiring has never been better.

And they absolutely NEVER square up for previous crap decisions.

LOL!!!!

 

[Grasshopper17]

Carlton can’t win the Premiership with their defensive profile.

Gee you'd better not tell Hoyney this. Will ruin all the narratives

 

[Viceregal]

Pretty much what every fan of every other club say about us.

The difference is Carlton have a captain who has put his team on his back, and dragged them to quite a few wins.

Indeed their captain is even prepared to put his other people's opponents bodies on the line if that is what it takes to win.

 

[morsie]

There's definitely a mental fragility there which opponents will always be aware of

After round 1 we can't really have a go at them

 

[Grasshopper17]

Carlton coming now. Must be time for the umps to get on board as well. Carlton are the new Collingwood.

 

[briztoon]

neale has carried this team to innumerable wins since crossing over, considerably more times than cripps has in the same time frame

I honestly can’t think of one game, where we’ve been behind, where Neale has put the team on his back, and dragged us to the win.

There’s no disputing Neale has had some monster games. But not one where I can say Neale dragged us to a win from a near certain defeat.

 

[Nathan Barley]

I honestly can’t think of one game, where we’ve been behind, where Neale has put the team on his back, and dragged us to the win.

There’s no disputing Neale has had some monster games. But not one where I can say Neale dragged us to a win from a near certain defeat.

Doesn’t have to be a come from behind victory

 

[McIvor]

Dangerous tackle = the ump is a soft twat who thinks because a tackle may hurt automatically means a free kick. The players are playing footy muppet.

 

[Elixuh]

One of the rare games where you almost knew 20 seconds into the game that it was going to be a bit of a reaming.

Carlton were 3 or 4 paces off the game from the get go. Still a lot of time left but I don’t know how they turn this around.

Well I called it

 

[Tom14]

Doesn’t have to be a come from behind victory

Wasn't come from behind but Neale's third quarter v sydney at the SCG in 2022 was massive. They came back from being about 4-5 goals down to being level or slightly ahead of us, then Neale went beserk and put as back comfortably in front.

 

[Tom14]

Well I called it

I missed the game but useful fodder to keep believing that Carlton are overrated and overyhyped.

I assume weitering spent his time 'shutting down' Cadman whilst the rest of the GWS forwards had a very comfortable time because he doesn't help his other defenders?

 

[rye]

I honestly can’t think of one game, where we’ve been behind, where Neale has put the team on his back, and dragged us to the win.

There’s no disputing Neale has had some monster games. But not one where I can say Neale dragged us to a win from a near certain defeat.

if the criteria is comeback wins (which is an odd way to put it) then essendon v brisbane 2022 definitely fits that bill.

but there have been so many other games where neale's been the difference between a loss and a win where its a tight game. best example of which is the 2022 elim final.

hes probably the most tagged player in the league over the last 5 years for a good reason.

 

[Lion_LegacyXL]

Carlton are just throwing the ball

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Why the hell do coaches tell their players to stop playing the way that got them ahead in the first place? Always baffles me.

 

[Ceebee]

Shame GWS put us out of the 8 but good to see Carlton lose .

 

[Elixuh]

Why the hell do coaches tell their players to stop playing the way that got them ahead in the first place? Always baffles me.

I’d love to see the breakdown of the probabilities informing the strategy. Something around time left, expected % of possession your team will have during that period, ability to drain the clock with that possession etc etc

I suppose they would say it worked because they still won by 2 goals.

 

[Chobo]

I honestly can’t think of one game, where we’ve been behind, where Neale has put the team on his back, and dragged us to the win.

There’s no disputing Neale has had some monster games. But not one where I can say Neale dragged us to a win from a near certain defeat.

Rd 2 2022 vs Essendon, can’t think of any others off the top of my head but only won that because of Neale

 

[Nathan Barley]

Why the hell do coaches tell their players to stop playing the way that got them ahead in the first place? Always baffles me.

Why don’t Collingwood play like did in the 4th quarters in all the comebacks last year in every game for 4 quarters?

 

[Elixuh]

If we can win tomorrow the pack behind us is kind of stumbling

 

[DreadBat5701894]

Rd 2 2022 vs Essendon, can’t think of any others off the top of my head but only won that because of Neale

Round 11 2022 vs GWS as well

 

[McIvor]

Pretty disappointing by the Giants not to bury Carlton and give up the last 5 odd goals or so. Still, Carlton and Collingwood lost so that’s good by me.

 

[Chobo]

Round 11 2022 vs GWS as well

His whole 2022 was immense, robbed of the Brownlow

 

[McIvor]

we have them well covered for talent but theyll get an armchair ride from the umps

Carlton is this years version of the 2016 Dogs in the VFLs eyes as it was Pies in 23 and a few other examples throughout the teens.