Non-Lions Footy Discussion

[Hollow Knight]

 

[jackess]

Easy money

 

[KissKiss]

Gee we were just a couple of hours early talking about needing to clean out the bad eggs out that club

 

[Cockliff38]

I yearn for a year where the AFL season can start controversy free.

 

[ZoBlitz]

I yearn for a year where the AFL season can start controversy free.

I don't know, it's entertaining when it isn't happening to your club.

 

[Cockliff38]

The Australian has named Lachie Hunter as the Bulldog involved

 

[Ironmonger]

This game is bringing back some memories, isn't it?

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Can you get odds for that?

 

[Dizzle]

The Australian has named Lachie Hunter as the Bulldog involved

If proven true, I'd never want him playing for my club again.

 

[Toffee Lion]

Hope Billy is having fun.

 

[Ironmonger]

Hope Billy is having fun.

Not good enough to make that team of guns tonight.

 

[MacMum]

I want the Saints to do well for Mr MM's sake....he's heart broken that he probably won't see another flag in his lifetime, particularly after last nights effort..

..on the other hand, I'm rapt that Billy has gone to a team that seems to have very little future, while our future looks very promising.

..enjoy watching from afar Billy.

 

[Toffee Lion]

Oh Melbourne...

 

[jackess]

What are they giving these Essendon topups? Playing good footy.

 

[AFLQLD]

Seriously, there are so many controversies and scandals in the game these days that the AFL should charged for bringing the AFL into disrepute.

 

[ZoBlitz]

Jack crisp being investigated for bets made last season.

 

[James North]

That Essendon/Melbourne game was one of the worst AFL games I've seen.

 

[jackess]

That Essendon/Melbourne game was one of the worst AFL games I've seen.

Which team was the one with most of their best 22 suspended?

 

[Happy_Neale]

Jack crisp being investigated for bets made last season.

I thought this was some inside joke I hadn't heard yet but...shit.

Link.

 

[LIONS08]

Interesting article here regarding Jack.

Collingwood recruit Jack Crisp is being investigated by the AFL for a bet made early last season when he was a Brisbane Lions player.

The AFL's integrity unit is investigating what Collingwood described as "betting behaviour by Jack"' when the midfielder was playing for the Lions.

Fairfax Media can also reveal that Crisp's bet was made early in the 2014 season, and sources suggest that the amount of the wager or wagers was under $150 and that it involved AFL and other sports – such as in a multi-bet.


Collingwood's head of football Neil Balme said in a statement to Fairfax Media on Friday evening: "We're aware of the AFL looking at some betting behaviour by Jack when he was a Brisbane player.

"As we understand it, the investigation is continuing and we're awaiting the outcome."

The investigation into Crisp by the AFL's integrity unit coincides with a probe into bets made by Western Bulldogs player, Lachie Hunter, and a VFL-listed player, after the Bulldogs self-reported the transaction to the AFL on Saturday afternoon.

The Brisbane Lions were unaware of any investigation by the AFL into Crisp's bet when contacted on Friday evening. The wager was understood to have been made in the season proper, not the pre-season NAB Challenge.

Crisp, 21, was traded to Collingwood as part of the Dayne Beams deal, in which the Magpies received pick No.5, Crisp and Brisbane's pick No.25, which was subsequently exchanged to North Melbourne for midfielder Levi Greenwood.

Crisp had played the final six games of the 2014 season and shown sufficient improvement for Collingwood to take him as part of the three-part package deal for all-Australian Beams, who requested a trade back to his home state and signed a five-year contract with the Lions.

Crisp has played in both of Collingwood's pre-season games to date, the match against Hawthorn in Launceston and then last Sunday's game against Carlton in Bendigo. He was also named in the Magpies' squad for Saturday night's clash with the Western Bulldogs.

At 190 centimetres, Crisp is a larger-bodied midfielder with strong running capacity, with his field kicking seen as the area that required improvement in his game.

Collingwood suffered badly from a betting scandal in 2011, when star defender Heath Shaw received a tough eight-match suspension for betting on a Collingwood game mid-season. Shaw's suspension in the second half of the season was among the setbacks that afflicted the Magpies late in 2011 after they had been clear competition leaders and premiership favourites.

The AFL's beefed-up integrity unit has presided over a crackdown on betting by players and officials over the past few years, with the league relying heavily on its relationships with the various betting agencies that take bets on AFL games. In years past, players and those who worked at clubs were seldom at risk of investigation for small bets and, indeed, it was common for teams to back themselves to win games.

Crisp played a total of 18 games for the Lions in his three seasons on their list. Originally from Myrtleford in Victoria, he was picked up in the rookie draft of 2012. Collingwood has used him in midfield roles in pre-season and he also is capable of run-with roles.

 

[MacMum]

How does anyone, let alone the AFL, know and can prove if a player is having a bet, particularly if done at home on a computer?

 

[Viceregal]

How does anyone, let alone the AFL, know and can prove if a player is having a bet, particularly if done at home on a computer?

If you mean how do they know the bet was placed ... the article seemed to indicate that the betting agencies tell them ... if you mean how do we know that it was actually MacMum who was using MacMum's betting account when the bet was made ... well the assumption is probably that anyone who is accessing your account has your password and therefore is acting with your consent or something like that

(and if your 'friend' is using your account for something that they really should know is off limits to you then you need better friends!)

 

[dlanod]

How does anyone, let alone the AFL, know and can prove if a player is having a bet, particularly if done at home on a computer?

Because they have to sign up for accounts and the money has to be paid out into some bank account. Names are attached to all of these, even without digging into email addresses and IPs.

 

[MacMum]

Ok, but with all the different betting agencies, how do they know who is a sports person and who isn't, and who is allowed to bet and who isn't just by looking at account names?

 

[Hollow Knight]

Sorry Collingwood, no trade-backs.