Rumour North Melbourne FC in disarray?

[Snake_Baker]

The most you can say is that TW was one of dozens of football people who was interested in Dusty in the year of his draft. And hindsight tells us that only Melbourne got it demonstrably wrong in that draft.

He didn't engineer your draft pick 3, he didn't engineer Melbourne taking two less talented footballers first. He didn't get Martin to Richmond, it fell that way.

No doubt TW claims the kudos at various speaking functions when he can, probably even talks up how he got Dusty on board, but really, you'd have to be gullible to believe that.

You're ruining the romantic re-writing of history, with all of this factual stuff.

Get with the program mate.


BURN THE BOATS!

 

[juss]

The AFL could relocate the N.M.F.C. no more than they could relocate the Green Bay Packers.

The simplest black and white concepts just continually fly over your head.



Yes.

If Richmond folds, could they relocate? D'Oh, there's no Richmond left to relocate! Doofus.

The AFL can just reduce its support for your club in the incredibly lean period thats coming up, offer a shiny ticket to Tassie and North will take it as its the only way the minnow club will survive.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Hahahahahahaha

Aaaaaah Richmond supporters. What would we do without them?

You wouldn't have had to make the Richmond premiership number plates

 

[Heisenberg_]

There's no Martin-Wallace history, you're making it up. Wallace was already on the nose at Richmond before the 2009 season, and he finally walked in the middle of the year. Surely you remember it.

Martin was linked with a number of clubs at draft time, like top 5 talent is every year. Terry Wallace had nothing to do with him ending at Richmond.

Stick with facts. You'll post less, and look less stupid.

You know who we can thank for getting Dustin Martin?
Barry Prendergast for selecting Scully and Trengove, who is it he works for now?

 

[LuvtheKangas]

You know who we can thank for getting Dustin Martin?
Barry Prendergast for selecting Scully and Trengove, who is it he works for now?

Agree, he played a prominent role, albeit indirectly.

We're hoping he's got better at his craft in the years since ...

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[Heisenberg_]

Agree, he played a prominent role, albeit indirectly.

We're hoping he's got better at his craft in the years since ...

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Did you know he didn't even bother interviewing Dustin Martin?
Can't believe he was given another job in the industry...

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Did you know he didn't even bother interviewing Dustin Martin?
Can't believe he was given another job in the industry...

Wasn't aware of that. Pure negligence, and that can be said without the benefit of hindsight.

Lots of North people are unhappy with the appointment. I believe the justification is that he's not in charge.

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[ReaperX]

"Schwab is not sure to this day if the ANZ would have foreclosed. ''It wouldn't have been great marketing for them to pull the pin on an AFL club,'' he said. ''But they were seriously concerned.'' - Cameron Schwab

"Only committeeman Garry Krauss's $400,000 loan kept the club afloat." - Greg Baum

''We decided to say exactly how it was,'.....'We put the club on death row.'' - Cameron Schwab

''This had a finality about it, The Tigers were going to go out of business.'' - Kevin Bartlett.

The Adelaide/Richmond time line

1990 Sep – The SANFL formally applies to join the AFL.
1990 Sep 19 – Adelaide is officially accepted by the AFL Board
1990 Oct – Adelaide Football Club sub licence is formally signed, the fee is paid and Adelaide enters the newly formed AFL.
1990 Oct 31 - Neville Crowe announces that the RFC has avoided extinction.

I stand by my statement.

You're like the guy from the movie "The Number 23", except instead of being obsessed with "23", you're obsessed with Richmond.

I hope you get the help you need, but in the meantime, the Tigers fans on this board will continually enjoy your rantings and ravings about us with smiles on our faces, because regardless of what you say, here are two facts for you that you cannot dispute:

Richmond just won a premiership, and North Melbourne haven't even played in a Grand Final since 1999.

Oh, and here's an extra fact for you - you couldn't lure Dusty over, despite offering him the biggest deal in the history of the sport.

We win, you lose, and anything you say against Richmond in this thread is meaningless... and the best part is, you know it, which is what makes you so salty.

 

[Mordecai]

You're like the guy from the movie "The Number 23", except instead of being obsessed with "23", you're obsessed with Richmond.

Dumbest thing I've ever read. Did you at least feel bad when you wrote that?

 

[tigerwill]

The most you can say is that TW was one of dozens of football people who was interested in Dusty in the year of his draft. And hindsight tells us that only Melbourne got it demonstrably wrong in that draft.

He didn't engineer your draft pick 3, he didn't engineer Melbourne taking two less talented footballers first. He didn't get Martin to Richmond, it fell that way.

No doubt TW claims the kudos at various speaking functions when he can, probably even talks up how he got Dusty on board, but really, you'd have to be gullible to believe that.

Once again you miss the point I made. Don't just rely on google. A bit of "local" knowledge wouldn't go astray.
I didn't claim TW engineered the draft pick 3.
No shit it fell that way.
Keep trying lad.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Dumbest thing I've ever read. Did you at least feel bad when you wrote that?

Stalks me, and then waffles on about how insignificant I am.

 

[Snake_Baker]

The AFL can just reduce its support for your club in the incredibly lean period thats coming up, offer a shiny ticket to Tassie and North will take it as its the only way the minnow club will survive.

Pure fantasy.

 

[tigerwill]

So, re the OP and purpose for thread, are north in disarray?

Yep, pure deflection from most of the north boys. Only one of them has put forward a reasonable view.
The others it's all about pure guff.
Luckily for us that adelaide contributed to our success.
Ended up nearly $10 mill in the banks, assets of over $27mill and are now reigning premiers.

It must hurt them, when you consider Coach Scott took over north the same year as Hardwick

The loss of hundreds of games of experience, a bottom 4 list, 2 draft picks before pick 60 odd and can't attract any class players of note. Some promising kids, most ,still under-developed, a few class players in Cunnington, Tarrant and Higgins add in Brown as well. An aging Waite, their highest paid player, Goldstein in decline, how will they rebuild, aggressively reset or whatever they call it? And what currency do they have to do it with?

Even though they tried hard with mega $million deals on offer. Not that you blame them. Well worth the effort. Good try, no cigar.

This year their membership dropped by over 10%. Low crowd attendances. Hard to renegotiate a better stadium deal with those sorts of results.
Financially they'll take a hit, they'll either have to suck more out of the more financial clubs via AFL welfare or look to the Tasmanian government to bail them out by selling more home games down there.

The better run clubs with bigger memberships and attendance figures will no doubt burr up with forever using members money for the welfare clubs.
The old argument ...well you get better deals at the MCG" or they "get bigger games" etc the answer to that is north had the opportunity when they had a period of sustained success when Carey,Archer, Longmire etc ruled, but they squandered the opportunity.

They can disclaim all they want, they can deflect, they point at other clubs, they can revise and rewrite history to their hearts content, it doesn't disguise the fact they have a mountain to climb

 

[tigerwill]

You're ruining the romantic re-writing of history, with all of this factual stuff.

Get with the program mate.


BURN THE BOATS!

Says the expert of rewriting history.
No how about backing up the statement you stand by.
But you can't can you? Caught out yet again. Lol.

 

[tigerwill]

The AFL can just reduce its support for your club in the incredibly lean period thats coming up, offer a shiny ticket to Tassie and North will take it as its the only way the minnow club will survive.

Fairly obvious scenario.

Once the financially healthy clubs get sick of the welfare clubs sucking on the AFL tit. can expect something to give.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

Supply the quote.
One thing we can thank the"list manager" for was to get us Dustin Martin. You know, the bloke who you offered mega $millions to but still knocked you back.

Now how about you stop deflecting and provide some answers to the "statement you stand by"

Once again you miss the point I made. Don't just rely on google. A bit of "local" knowledge wouldn't go astray.
I didn't claim TW engineered the draft pick 3.
No shit it fell that way.
Keep trying lad.

You keep misrepresenting the facts, I'll call you on it. The two bold bits are contradictory.

Sure, Tiges supporters probably have a laugh at the irony of the guy who brought so much shit into the club uncovering a gem as essentially his last act. Pretty ironic, I agree.

Just not the same as saying he "got (Richmond) Dustin Martin", given everything else that had to play out. Indeed, to frame it that way is just another example of your loose regard for facts. Or, your willingness to bullshit to make a point.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

The AFL can just reduce its support for your club in the incredibly lean period thats coming up, offer a shiny ticket to Tassie and North will take it as its the only way the minnow club will survive.

Yeah, you keep wishing that. Remember to cry as we rub your face in it over the next few years.

 

[tigerwill]

You keep misrepresenting the facts, I'll call you on it. The two bold bits are contradictory.

Sure, Tiges supporters probably have a laugh at the irony of the guy who brought so much shit into the club uncovering a gem as essentially his last act. Pretty ironic, I agree.

Just not the same as saying he "got (Richmond) Dustin Martin", given everything else that had to play out. Indeed, to frame it that way is just another example of your loose regard for facts. Or, your willingness to bullshit to make a point.

You can "call" whatever you want. Still went over your head. Now stop quoting me so I don't have to read your inane replies, run along and play elsewhere kid.

 

[LuvtheKangas]

You can "call" whatever you want. Still went over your head. Now stop quoting me so I don't have to read your inane replies, run along and play elsewhere kid.

LOL, you (finally) realise you've lost the argument again and make another pathetic attempt to save face. Why not post a big "YAWN", like yesterday? That was awesome. Still the bluff of a loser, though.

Unfortunately for you, your stupidity and lies are here for all to see.

 

[tigerwill]

It's obvious the point is beyond your comprehension, so you resort to your dribble as usual.
Now run along like a good boy.

 

[tigerwill]

Coach Scott obviously unhappy wth norths list management.
After norths hierachy assuring him that they had a couple of elite players coming and re-signing him, only to failing in their endeavours, it's no wonder.
Having to go through a major rebuild with very limited assets will certainly test his mettle.
Given their previous history with an older list he has limited experience with developing a group of players.
Will he stay the course. Will the north supporters have the patience and faith in his abilities?

 

[EasternTiger]

A lot of angst in this thread. I think a few North supporters are waking up to the dire situation their club finds itself in. They don't even seem to be trying.

A few clubs have been following the Richmond 'bring them in lots of 3' trading strategy. Even FIGJAM is following the Dimma hugs-and-kisses model. He has promised to be less overbearing. The players will see right through it though, but as least he is having a crack.

Brad Scott? Not even the best coach in his family.

 

[Dunger]

Brad Scott? Not even the best coach in his family.

Not even the best coach at NMFC either

 

[Le Grille]

Coach Scott obviously unhappy wth norths list management.
After norths hierachy assuring him that they had a couple of elite players coming and re-signing him, only to failing in their endeavours, it's no wonder.
Having to go through a major rebuild with very limited assets will certainly test his mettle.
Given their previous history with an older list he has limited experience with developing a group of players.
Will he stay the course. Will the north supporters have the patience and faith in his abilities?

I’d prefer if he didn’t

 

[EasternTiger]

Not even the best coach at NMFC either

In fairness though, he dooesn't appear the sharpest tool in the shed. Might actually be good management practice to have competent assistants around him to cover the obvious weaknesses in his coaching skill-set.

The next step in his personal development would be to acknowledge and then confront those short comings.