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NRL v AFL.. are people serious?
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Five-year plan, huh? Started off well, hasn't it:
YEAR 1:
- Crowd attendances can't match what they were during the allegedly half-hearted marketing era
- Getting outdrawn by a sport that used to be a byword for inferior crowds
- Frantically trying to block a request by the Victory for increased capacity at the new stadium
- Being unable to attract a remotely decent audience to a live telecast of a home final
- Being unable to sell out a home final at a ground that holds 18,000
- Having prominent League people wanting the team to be moved somewhere else
Bring on years two to five!
YEAR 1:
- Crowd attendances can't match what they were during the allegedly half-hearted marketing era
- Getting outdrawn by a sport that used to be a byword for inferior crowds
- Frantically trying to block a request by the Victory for increased capacity at the new stadium
- Being unable to attract a remotely decent audience to a live telecast of a home final
- Being unable to sell out a home final at a ground that holds 18,000
- Having prominent League people wanting the team to be moved somewhere else
Bring on years two to five!
http://www.ebroadcast.com.au/cgi-bi...sofcom&magic=eaTLKVwqj75xDhbFE09psc0bQIWc1HyQ
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5822875#post5822875
NRL showing the storm final live into Melbourne next saturday night
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5822875#post5822875
NRL showing the storm final live into Melbourne next saturday night
Dragons VS Sea Eagles at Aussie stadium. All or nothing. Prelm place or out you go.
Sydney "derby" as such in the finals. Fewer than 31,000 turn up. Say no more.
Sydney "derby" as such in the finals. Fewer than 31,000 turn up. Say no more.
Great fun over on Lunlimited. It was cos it was Friday night, its the traffic, its the ticketing, its manlys fault, its Dragons fault, its marketing, its cos the vicars cat died, its distance from work.
In fact its anything other than simply people not going cos they don't want to. You could honestly put on a Dragons V Sea Eagles and Roosters V Sharks double SF Bill at Telstra stadium and struggle to get 60,000.
One lad points out that next Friday Swans will get 70,000 charging more money against an inter state side. I wonder why?
In fact its anything other than simply people not going cos they don't want to. You could honestly put on a Dragons V Sea Eagles and Roosters V Sharks double SF Bill at Telstra stadium and struggle to get 60,000.
One lad points out that next Friday Swans will get 70,000 charging more money against an inter state side. I wonder why?
plugger47
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And another great final in the offing. This one will hit RL harder than a Buderis spear tackle, choke them more than a storm grapple tackle and ko them quicker than a mozzer knee in the guts. Get the picture lil ****?
gaelictiogar said:
The game was delayed because of the congestion coming from the North, so what are you talking about?
Will the Swans get more than 170K watching the game next week, or as usual, because all the ex-pats that follow the game up here are at the ground, there is no one left to watch the match on TV.
Was there an AFL game played last night? I turned on Channel 10, who comes last every Friday night, but the game was not on. Why is that? I thought AFL was the #1 game, but the biggest city in Australia didn't have it on TV. That would be like The AFC playoff in the NFL not being shown live into New York. Wasn't the winner of that game going to play the Swans?
Kenny Hunter
All Australian
Ronin said:The game was delayed because of the congestion coming from the North, so what are you talking about?
Will the Swans get more than 170K watching the game next week, or as usual, because all the ex-pats that follow the game up here are at the ground, there is no one left to watch the match on TV.
Was there an AFL game played last night? I turned on Channel 10, who comes last every Friday night, but the game was not on. Why is that? I thought AFL was the #1 game, but the biggest city in Australia didn't have it on TV. That would be like The AFC playoff in the NFL not being shown live into New York. Wasn't the winner of that game going to play the Swans?
Well it was live on Ch.10 in most parts of the state and it was live on Pay Tv
And tonight's game is live across Australia on free to Air
Yes the whole country
What about NRL?
If you were in Melbourne tonight u can watch Snow White - the fairest of them all on CH.9 instead of NRL
WHY? BECAUSE SNOW WHITE RATES BETTER THAN THE NRL
Ronin said:The game was delayed because of the congestion coming from the North, so what are you talking about?
Will the Swans get more than 170K watching the game next week, or as usual, because all the ex-pats that follow the game up here are at the ground, there is no one left to watch the match on TV.
Was there an AFL game played last night? I turned on Channel 10, who comes last every Friday night, but the game was not on. Why is that? I thought AFL was the #1 game, but the biggest city in Australia didn't have it on TV. That would be like The AFC playoff in the NFL not being shown live into New York. Wasn't the winner of that game going to play the Swans?
Thanks Ronin. I was forgetting that hardy perennial of the League bluffers reasons why a finals game attracts a poor crowd.....the television. The Dragon army show their loyalty by stting zapper in hand.
Imagine a manchester soccer fan or a montral hockey fan justifying leaving seats empty because the game was on television !!!! Unimaginable.
you know well it was yet again a lamentable turn out and you know well that the fact that the AFL TV deal is literally tens of millions a year more than Leagues is indicative that once people stop playing with self serving figures the advertisers want AFL more for the simple reason that it has more fans.
May I ask a simple question? Does Australian football have more support in this country than Rugby league?
Kenny Hunter
All Australian
Ronin said:
Well the AFL fans aren't saying that their game is the biggest in the universe
Its just in better shape and more supported than the NRL
Why wasn't it shown live , we can say that about most sports in this country
But in the end who cares , people were able to see it Pay tv
gaelictiogar said:
Since you never answer my questions, I am entitled not to answer anything that you dish up.
That said, where have I said that NRL has more support than AFL? It is not even played professionally in Adelaide or Perth and has done so in Melbourne for only a decade.
Yes the crowds are bigger in the AFL, but in terms of average crowds and total crowds, the NRL compares well to sports overseas (around 15th average wise). You compare a Swans crowd against Souths, but in truth, there are only 12 AFL games played in Sydney each year versus close to 100 League games. Union only has around 10 games each year, If there is so much latent AFL support here, why is the AFL talking about 2015 for a second side?
My argument is that your contention that it is being crushed is a fallacy. It is clearly the #1 football code in NSW and QLD when it comes to total crowds, TV and overall corporate support. A $500m deal is scoffed at as inadequate, yet if you pro-rata that over the base that it covers, it is clearly bigger than the AFL deal if you did the same.
If AFL is truely the #1 game, should it not be the football sport of choice in NSW and QLD (being 2 of the top 3 states in population)? Is that argument such a stretch that it is misleading? I do not think so.
League supporters have heard it all before, as Union said that it would crush League after the WC, when they amassed $45m from one tournament. In truth, they have gone backwards. Look at what has happened to the the Lions once they fell off the perch. Will the same happen to the Swans in the coming years? To simply point to crowds is misleading when the biggest sporting events on the box in NSW and QLD are League games.
Ronin said:
I won't chide you for not answering ron. It was a rhetorical question anyway. You are intelligent enough to know the answer as am i.
of course League won't die in the east. however the following statements are ALL true.
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AFL has more support. Roy morgan polling indicates 8.8 million people name checking an AFL team to 6.2 million for the NRL. Sweeney and any other repoutable polls say similar.
2. AFLs inroads into League heartland - participation, attendance at elite league level, television viewing - are considerably greater than League inroads into AFL heartland.
3. nationally some 450,000 play AR compared to some 170,000 for league. I get these figures from easily googled govt. sources.
League will continue to be popular in the East. it will be a minority code elsewhere. Victory a far better long term bet in Viccy than Storm for instance. AFL will continue behind League in East but closer to it than league is to AFL elsewhere.
In truth Ronin you can't argue with a word of what I've written.
In AFL heartland AFL > NRL
In League heartland NRL > AFL>
Nationally AFL > NRL.
IN AFL heartland gap bigger than in League heartland.
All facts.
Kenny Hunter
All Australian
Ronin said:
You think syd is the be all and end all of this country
Yes it wasn't shown live into syd on free to Air last night but were the swans playing last night? NO
Are the swans playing tonight ?No and are they showing tonight's game live? YES
Last night it was on Pay TV and it was on live on FTA in most places in NSW
And your point about why doesn't the AFL put another side in Syd now .
Apart from syd not being ready for it yet
But a major problem is when u put a second side in any city , the second side always struggles ,Port and Freo did , they had only their grass root support
And another thing the AFL will only put another team in syd when a melb club is prepared to do it full time and thats not happening now
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gaelictiogar said:
Staggering. Truly staggering.
Does it help you sleep better at night?
Ronin said:
You mean like every single regular season NRL match? And even if you take away the 'live' component, still a vast majority of NRL matches are not seen on FTA TV in Sydney.
how does anyone think that the NRL will go next saturday night?
1) If the NRL rates well, Melbourne>Sydney in sports interest
2) If iron chef beats the NRL, then the argument concerning IC is over
1) If the NRL rates well, Melbourne>Sydney in sports interest
2) If iron chef beats the NRL, then the argument concerning IC is over
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wow this thread is still going?
I initially just used it to express my dissapointment at the Raiders crowd.
I initially just used it to express my dissapointment at the Raiders crowd.
ChrisFooty
Premiership Player
Sir_Adrian84 said:
So very true.
They are more movie goers.
ChrisFooty said:
i don't think it has anything about which sport. I reckon that if NRL was in melbourne and AFL was in sydney, NRL crowds>AFL crowds.
It is the cities, not the sport. Cities like Sydney, New York, Singapore etc are not as sports oriented as other cities. There is nothing wrong with it, it is just that people use these places as examples of how good/bad a sport is.
In Melbourne, we have had crowds of over 15,000 for NBL, 40,000 for A-League, 100,000 for AFL, Cricket and Union, 88,000 for League, 120,000 for horse racing. I doubt Sydney could beat this, but again there is nothing wrong with that.
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