NRL v AFL.. are people serious?

[harmesy 37]

At the end of the day everyone can argue about AFL/NRL/SANFL/WAFL etc until they are blue in the face.

The FACTS remain.

Australian Rules Football is Australian.

Rugby League and soccer are invasion sports imported from England.

If you want to do something that is truly Australian in your life then support and watch Australian Rules Football.

If you wish you were back in the "home country" then support or watch soccer and rugby.

 

[LebaneseForces]

At the end of the day everyone can argue about AFL/NRL/SANFL/WAFL etc until they are blue in the face.

The FACTS remain.

Australian Rules Football is Australian.

Rugby League and soccer are invasion sports imported from England.

If you want to do something that is truly Australian in your life then support and watch Australian Rules Football.

If you wish you were back in the "home country" then support or watch soccer and rugby.

Rugby League has been an Australian tradition for 100 years. AFL or Victorian Football was an invention of Mexicans who had nothing better to do in Melbourne, how time hasn't changed a thing.

 

[grayham]

I work in North Sydney and at my work alone, we have an NRL tipping competition, not any other sport tipping competition... This friday about 5 of us from work will be going to the S.F.S. There is a Bulldogs flag in the office (Not even mine ), i have merchandise around my table and the boss has Tigers gear! It's the only sport that is talked about in the office except for Soccer and the odd international RU Game.
I have seen quiet a few people going to games straight from work on friday afternoons around North Sydney and the City... You sure your not talking about Melbourne mate? Or are you on drugs?

I can only assume you work in a league-friendly work place. Sanitary disposal ?

 

[littleduck]

I lot of people on here, and from AFL states, kind of assume that NRL in Sydney has the same penetration as AFL in AFL states.

Ignorance is bliss.

Its no where near as popular.

As I've said before, the passion for AFL in Melbourne from all is unique and not repeated anywhere else in the world, even in passionate soccer cities in Europe bcoz none of them have 10 teams in the one town.

The News Ltd media may pump it up, but in reality interest is in the same ratio as crowds, as you'd expect.

bollocks. AFL crowds are 100% bigger, but revenue certianly isnt, television ratings arent, merchandise sales arent, talkback radio calls arent, column inches arent, etc..

Not that NRL crowds are bad, NRL is still the number 1 crowd pulling code in Sydney, simply by number of games played each week. Hense NRL is still the number one code, but not in the sense that AFL is the number one code elsewhere.

Elsewhere being Melbourne and Adelaide, and to a lesser extent Perth.

 

[littleduck]

Let's just remind people of what LD has just said




Just doesn't compete . So what was with all the arguments then ?
You said it . RL just doesn't compete .

Fact: RL doesnt compete against AFL in SA or WA. Counting those states is as relevant as counting NZ in a head to head battle. AFL just doesnt compete on NZ soil. We all know the head to head battleground is just the East Coast and RL is #1 on the East Coast.

But lets run with the ignorant southern states thought that Rugby is Rugby n its all the same... then why dont we add up League and Union states and count them as one against AFL?

While we're at it, lets count NZ grassroots Rugby participation and ratings in the debate of AFL v Rugby.

Why dont we do that ay?

 

[littleduck]

At the end of the day everyone can argue about AFL/NRL/SANFL/WAFL etc until they are blue in the face.

The FACTS remain.

Australian Rules Football is Australian.

Rugby League and soccer are invasion sports imported from England.

If you want to do something that is truly Australian in your life then support and watch Australian Rules Football.

If you wish you were back in the "home country" then support or watch soccer and rugby.

There is nothing more Australian than to kick a footy around in the park, a RL footy that is... just like their parents generation have done, and their grandparents generation before them.

 

[littleduck]

I can only assume you work in a league-friendly work place. Sanitary disposal ?

I can only assume you dont work in a Rugby Union friendly workplace in the city which means you dont work in the most professional of environments.

 

[grayham]

There is nothing more Australian than to kick a footy around in the park, a RL footy that is... just like their parents generation have done, and their grandparents generation before them.

RL people dont kick a footy, they throw it.....backwards.

 

[grayham]

I can only assume you dont work in a Rugby Union friendly workplace in the city which means you dont work in the most professional of environments.

Whats that mean ?

 

[littleduck]

RL people dont kick a footy, they throw it.....backwards.

bollocks. there are kids kicking RL footys in parks everywhere across most of the nation, and passing too...

 

[littleduck]

Whats that mean ?

Rugby is the traditional sporting culture if inner city professionals in Sydney.

 

[grayham]

bollocks. there are kids kicking RL footys in parks everywhere across most of the nation, and passing too...

Practicing their aus-kick skills then. Cant see why kicking a footy = rugby league when RL is 99% throwing and tackling.

 

[grayham]

Rugby is the traditional sporting culture if inner city professionals in Sydney.

You seem to have captured a snap shot of Sydney 30 years ago, and wont let go. Time to update. There is only so much I can educate you on, you really need to get down here and see.
That explains a lot about why you still think RL is relevant.

 

[Ronin]

All of which explains why they draw as many as 2 of your NRL so called powerhouses combined.

Minimal exposure and still by a mile Sydneys biggest club. Imagine the storm drawing more than Collingwood and Richmond - the 2 best supported clubs in Melbourne this year - combined. It would be an absurd impossibility but Swans do the same thing regularly.

Frankly the NRL, drawing 15,000,comparison is with A League, drawing 12,000, not with the nations only truly major league drawing more than both combined. End of story. End of argument.

Everyone on here is estatic because 170k watched the biggest game of the year that the Swans have had. That is still a crap result.

Why don't you talk about the regular season where they come last in their slot? Why don't you talk about the Lions that have been beaten 4 times by the Iron Chef this year? Why don't you talk about the falling crowds in Brisbane and the clubs losses this year? Why don't you talk about AFL losing their dedicated channel on Fox? Why do you twist facts by only including the 5 capital cities TV numbers, when over 1m people watched the NRL GF in NSW and QLD regionals?

You don't because you are living in a fools paradise.

 

[Ronin]

You seem to have captured a snap shot of Sydney 30 years ago, and wont let go. Time to update. There is only so much I can educate you on, you really need to get down here and see.
That explains a lot about why you still think RL is relevant.

I also work in the CBD and the only people that talk AFL are all the ex-pats from the southern states (that means people like you). These people now also talk about League, because otherwise they miss out in the general discussions.

The Union supporters have all been talking League again, because the Union has been shiate for quite some time.

 

[Ronin]

At the end of the day everyone can argue about AFL/NRL/SANFL/WAFL etc until they are blue in the face.

The FACTS remain.

Australian Rules Football is Australian.

Rugby League and soccer are invasion sports imported from England.

If you want to do something that is truly Australian in your life then support and watch Australian Rules Football.

If you wish you were back in the "home country" then support or watch soccer and rugby.

What a crap argument. I bet you will go down the the MCG on Boxing Day to watch us take on the Poms. Cricket is from England. I guess we should **** that off as well.

While you are at it, how about we condemn everything that comes from overseas. Those yellow devils are at our doorstep, lets get to the barracades.

Pathetic.

 

[grayham]

Everyone on here is estatic because 170k watched the biggest game of the year that the Swans have had. That is still a crap result.

450,000 actually.

Why don't you talk about the regular season where they come last in their slot? Why don't you talk about the Lions that have been beaten 4 times by the Iron Chef this year? Why don't you talk about the falling crowds in Brisbane and the clubs losses this year? Why don't you talk about AFL losing their dedicated channel on Fox? Why do you twist facts by only including the 5 capital cities TV numbers, when over 1m people watched the NRL GF?

The lions havent been beaten by SBS's showpiece great cooking show. Its been other AFL games.

The lions are probably at their lowest ebb now, yet still spanking the broncos. As the lions rebuild, those converted during the 3-peat years will rekindle their excitement as they climb up the ladder.

Facts are that every year since 10 has shown prime time footy into NSW and QLD, the ratings have grown, and are now at a level where they are commercially viable. Hence the $780m rights even without foxtel involvement. Hence why even more prime time AFL will be in NSW and QLD next year.

Its just grand.

 

[Kenny Hunter]

I also work in the CBD and the only people that talk AFL are all the ex-pats from the southern states (that means people like you). These people now also talk about League, because otherwise they miss out in the general discussions.

The Union supporters have all been talking League again, because the Union has been shiate for quite some time.

An angry league supporter , sitting in the middle of syd ,seeing his game being eaten away by AFL .
Crowds are down , and AFL slowly eating away at it

Having a bad day are u ?? Come on the net nice and angry

 

[Ronin]

450,000 actually.


The lions havent been beaten by SBS's showpiece great cooking show. Its been other AFL games.

The lions are probably at their lowest ebb now, yet still spanking the broncos. As the lions rebuild, those converted during the 3-peat years will rekindle their excitement as they climb up the ladder.

Facts are that every year since 10 has shown prime time footy into NSW and QLD, the ratings have grown, and are now at a level where they are commercially viable. Hence the $780m rights even without foxtel involvement. Hence why even more prime time AFL will be in NSW and QLD next year.

Its just grand.

The number was 170K.

As usual, you are full of crap. You really are a dunce:



Sunday-Mail Brisbane:
(20 August 2006)


IRONED OUT!

by Selina Steele


The Brisbanes Lions' slide down the AFL ladder has them on the nose with viewers. On free-to-air and Pay TV, Brisbane Lions' audiences have dropped by a staggering 80,000 per week.

Nationally, SBS cult cooking show The Iron Chef has at times out-rated the pride of Brisbane town. Faster than the Iron Chef Hiroyuki Sakai can chop, slice and dice a chinese cabbage viewers are dropping off the former AFL heavyweights.

A study of OzTam television revealed:

1) Only 70,000 Brisbane viewers tuned into last Saturday's night's Lions- Richmond telecast - a 48,000 drop from when the teams met in Round 4;

2) Nationally more people watched Paul Hogan's Crocodile Dundee (320,000) than the Lion's 82 point loss to Terry Wallace's Tigers(278,000) last Saturday night;

3) Nationally five times this season, The Iron Chef has outrated a Lions' game;

4) Last year's best result was 234,000 v St. Kilda in the opening round. This season the high was 169,000 for the MCG Collingwood game in Round 10;

5)Last season's low of 108,000 against St. Kilda was still 38,000 more than last week's ratings.


AFL Operating officer Ben Buckley said yeaterday:

"AFL games in Queensland this year, which are primarily centred around telecasts of the Brisbane Lions have had a drop in their audience number.

This no doubt reflects a difficult year for the club on the field in terms of wins and losses. However the AFL looks at the longer term picture...the number watching the game in Queensland are considerable further along from the number of people who watched AFL games in Queensland in 2002.

Concerned at the slide in audience numbers, Lions chief Michael Bowers said it was a warning to the AFL that there was still plenty of work to be done in Queensland.

"We have been saying for quite some time that the Brisbane Lions have been able to achieve during our premiership years is not normal trading conditions," he said.

"We're concerned that the AFL might have put its glasses down as far as Queensland is concerned. We think their focus has shifted to NSW and Victorian clubs..."

 

[Ronin]

450,000 actually.


The lions havent been beaten by SBS's showpiece great cooking show. Its been other AFL games.

The lions are probably at their lowest ebb now, yet still spanking the broncos. As the lions rebuild, those converted during the 3-peat years will rekindle their excitement as they climb up the ladder.

Facts are that every year since 10 has shown prime time footy into NSW and QLD, the ratings have grown, and are now at a level where they are commercially viable. Hence the $780m rights even without foxtel involvement. Hence why even more prime time AFL will be in NSW and QLD next year.

Its just grand.

Commercially viable? Why don't they show it on a Friday night? Isn't the AFL the #1 sport in Australia?

So do you think that channel 7 and 10 will show it live on Friday nights next year? I am happy to take you on with that one, you name the odds and the wager amount.

 

[finders]

The number was 170K.

)As usual, you are full of crap. You really are a dunce

NO it Peaked at 450,000 in Sydney you idiot! that means 450,000 viewers at some stage watched the game!!!!! Or is that too hard to understand?

 

[grayham]

The number was 170K.

As usual, you are full of crap. You really are a dunce:




A study of OzTam television revealed:

1) Only 70,000 Brisbane viewers tuned into last Saturday's night's Lions- Richmond telecast - a 48,000 drop from when the teams met in Round 4;

2) Nationally more people watched Paul Hogan's Crocodile Dundee (320,000) than the Lion's 82 point loss to Terry Wallace's Tigers(278,000) last Saturday night;

3) Nationally five times this season, The Iron Chef has outrated a Lions' game;



.."

You are so stupid its alarming, You are comparing a show (Iron chef) which gets shown nationally in prime time, with a show that gets (Lions vs Tigers) which gets shown only in Brisbane and possibly Melbourne, delayed if shown at all in Perth and Adelaide, and not even shown in Sydney.

Compare Iron chef to lions in Brisbane only is the only sensible comparison.

Geez, the courier mail has sloppy journos, and even sloppier readers.

 

[Ronin]

The number was 170K.

)As usual, you are full of crap. You really are a dunce

NO it Peaked at 450,000 in Sydney you idiot! that means 450,000 viewers at some stage watched the game!!!!! Or is that too hard to understand?

Peaking means squat. The official number is 172K. PATHETIC.
Only 60K watched that game in Brisbane . Huge.

 

[peternorth]

Mods, is there a chance that a footy code flaming board is introduced to house these threads?

 

[Hoops]

Peaking means squat. The official number is 172K. PATHETIC.
Only 60K watched that game in Brisbane . Huge.

Still only just under half for the NRL game on at the same time (362K). compare that to the greater than 5 times the Pies V dogs game (541K) delayed by 1&1/2 hrs or was it 2 hrs to the live Storm game in Melbourne (99K) and that result isn't looking to bad you have to admit.