Number One pick - ODDS

[Team Mo']

yeah but by then he will have finished VCE. he is definitely not certain to nominate and told me as much last week.

I don't think VCE is much of a problem.

I think he doesn't want yo leave his mummy

(told me last week )

 

[DCFCFAN84]

Hmmmm the $5.00 on Rich for number 1 is tempting as if West Coast finish last I am 95% sure they will take Rich.

 

[Hunch]

He'll nominate...

The media took his modesty out of context. He was saying he wasn't sure he would nominate to sound like he doesn't think he will get drafted sort of thing.

He will nominate and if he doesn't can;t he go to GC next year?

Gold coast wont be in the draft next year!!!

 

[Eccles]

Surely WCE will be very interested in a talent like Jack Watts. Their lack of key forward has been an achillies heel for years and they really loaded up on mids in the last draft with Masten and Ebert.

I know they have Kennedy developing but he's more the rangy roaming CHF type... Watts seems like his game would compliment Kennedy.

The odds rarely lie, bookmakers have ways of acquiring the information that matters. You would think if there were any chance of Watts not declaring for the draft the odds would reflect that.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Surely WCE will be very interested in a talent like Jack Watts. Their lack of key forward has been an achillies heel for years and they really loaded up on mids in the last draft with Masten and Ebert.

I know they have Kennedy developing but he's more the rangy roaming CHF type... Watts seems like his game would compliment Kennedy.

The odds rarely lie, bookmakers have ways of acquiring the information that matters. You would think if there were any chance of Watts not declaring for the draft the odds would reflect that.

They will not risk Watts going home in 4 years ala Judd. Rich is just as good and has NO "go home" factor. A safer bet, and a A Class mid which they lack post Judd and Cousins

 

[Eccles]

They will not risk Watts going home in 4 years ala Judd. Rich is just as good and has NO "go home" factor. A safer bet, and a A Class mid which they lack post Judd and Cousins

I dont see it. I understand the risk with the go-home factor but you cant deny that picking Judd was the best outcome for WCE. They won a flag with him dominant and after five years of fantastic performances they turned him into Kennedy/Masten/Selwood. The gohome factor will always been there but I dont think you can afford to let it sway you substantially in your drafting strategy.

Also, given they spent two first round picks on midfielders last draft I dont think they're going to be concerned about their young midfield stocks.

If they rate Watts as best available at their pick I have very little doubt they'll take him.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I dont see it. I understand the risk with the go-home factor but you cant deny that picking Judd was the best outcome for WCE. They won a flag with him dominant and after five years of fantastic performances they turned him into Kennedy/Masten/Selwood. The gohome factor will always been there but I dont think you can afford to let it sway you substantially in your drafting strategy.

Also, given they spent two first round picks on midfielders last draft I dont think they're going to be concerned about their young midfield stocks.

If they rate Watts as best available at their pick I have very little doubt they'll take him.

Will not happen. WC will take Naituai or Rich, Rich is by far and away the SAFEST option as well. Judd was good..but it has screwed the club over, which is why they will not want a real top draft pick going to waste. Watts may or may not be the star that we all think he will be. Rich has much less risk attached to him.

 

[pinkus maximus]

Will not happen. WC will take Naituai or Rich, Rich is by far and away the SAFEST option as well. Judd was good..but it has screwed the club over, which is why they will not want a real top draft pick going to waste. Watts may or may not be the star that we all think he will be. Rich has much less risk attached to him.

they won a flag with judd

and i think a fellow by the name of cousins actually screwed the club over

 

[LukeParkerno1]

they won a flag with judd

and i think a fellow by the name of cousins actually screwed the club over

Both screwed the club over, Judd more so as WCE had no bargaining power at all at the trade table. They did win a flag- he also went home in less than 5 years. One of the main reasons they went Masten last year, one of the reasons they will go Rich/NicNat this year!

 

[Eccles]

Will not happen. WC will take Naituai or Rich, Rich is by far and away the SAFEST option as well. Judd was good..but it has screwed the club over, which is why they will not want a real top draft pick going to waste. Watts may or may not be the star that we all think he will be. Rich has much less risk attached to him.

Yep I understand that argument but I'm just not completely sold on it. For me the drugs issue coupled with the public condemnation contributed more to the clubs fall from grace. Not convinced Judd leaving had THAT much impact, just one factor in many.

I'm not saying that WCE wont play it safe and take Rich, just that if they make that decision based on the gohome factor alone and not based on footballing ability and potential it will be the wrong move.

If they genuinely believe Rich is the superior footballing talent, or they believe there's very little to split between them and they want to take the local boy then good luck to them.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

I don't think there is much between the top 5 this year. They all could go no1, and that is why they will take Rich as he fills a big hole that WCE have, without Judd Kerr can't do everything. Rich will be at WCE

 

[Kaladin Stormblessed]

Both screwed the club over, Judd more so as WCE had no bargaining power at all at the trade table. They did win a flag- he also went home in less than 5 years. One of the main reasons they went Masten last year, one of the reasons they will go Rich/NicNat this year!

Wtf? They got a good trade out of it, so much for no bargaining power.

How has he screwed the club over? I'll tell you something, go ask any West Coast supporter that if the 2001 draft was held right now, would they take Judd or go for the best 'home grown' prospect (incidentally Polak).

West Coast got screwed over by taking Judd - my ass!

 

[Lynch takes a mark]

Wtf? They got a good trade out of it, so much for no bargaining power.

How has he screwed the club over? I'll tell you something, go ask any West Coast supporter that if the 2001 draft was held right now, would they take Judd or go for the best 'home grown' prospect (incidentally Polak).

West Coast got screwed over by taking Judd - my ass!

Totally agree

130+ seriously high quality games from Chris Judd including 6 straight years of finals, 2 grand finals and a flag

In return we have a high quality rover and one of the best young CHF's in the game - both are likely to play 200 games each for the club.

The pain will be short term - West Coast are in the process of building a very formidable list with only 1 year out of the top 8 - they will have the equivalent of 3 bottom 4 finishes and 9 top 20 draft picks from 2005 - 2008

If Judd didn't leave West Coast would probably be around the 6-10 mark this year given the way injuries have gone - the list would be going backwards and we would be without the 3 top draft picks to rebuild around.

If we get the same type of thing from Jack Watts between 2010 and 2017 then I highly doubt many people will be disappointed.

 

[Upgrayedd]

Melbourne to bet on Deboer, Put a million dollars on him,

 

[Kaladin Stormblessed]

Totally agree

130+ seriously high quality games from Chris Judd including 6 straight years of finals, 2 grand finals and a flag

In return we have a high quality rover and one of the best young CHF's in the game - both are likely to play 200 games each for the club.

The pain will be short term - West Coast are in the process of building a very formidable list with only 1 year out of the top 8 - they will have the equivalent of 3 bottom 4 finishes and 9 top 20 draft picks from 2005 - 2008

If Judd didn't leave West Coast would probably be around the 6-10 mark this year given the way injuries have gone - the list would be going backwards and we would be without the 3 top draft picks to rebuild around.

If we get the same type of thing from Jack Watts between 2010 and 2017 then I highly doubt many people will be disappointed.

Exactly my point.

Even if Watts decided to do a runner, Eagles would still get a pretty damn good trade out of it just like Judd.

Win/Win.

The only way they can be enormously hurt by it is if it was right in the middle of a premiership challenge which would mean they can't wait for the draft picks they get to mature (e.g. Franklin walking out on Hawthorn this year) but I seriously seriously doubt that'd happen.

 

[Toadvine]

Melbourne to bet on Deboer, Put a million dollars on him,

What makes you say that?