Ovens & Murray discussion 2023

[Trent the flight Steward]

What will the standard be like if the salary cap is adhered to?

I fail to understand why Wang got belted when every man and their dog knew what was going on for the past couple of decades.

I’d be surprised if the Wang players copped abuse, a bit of banter yes, but leave the vitriol out of it.

The salary cap and points hasn't been in for a couple of decades, every club in Victoria looks at this and thinks twice before they go over now, so clubs through the state will either have a gun accountant to hide it, can you imagine the effort to do that or play by the rules so it won't impact on the standard of the league

 

[Trent the flight Steward]

Have any Wang players left the club as a result of all this? Some may not fit into the team with a reduction of points now.

I reckon there's a bit of us against the world at this stage, but there might be cracks by round 4, I don't think you'll see players leave straight away, isn't Moore contracted until 2024, he's their most important player

 

[10571z]

Jobe Watson being stripped of his Brownlow was a bloody joke and most true football people agree with that!Nothingbto do with this issue at all!

What football people are you talking to? 100% Jobe deserved to lose his medal and most agree.

 

[Peta Deutschland]

Have any Wang players left the club as a result of all this? Some may not fit into the team with a reduction of points now.

Nobody has left. Pat Naish was about to commit full time, but points reduction scuppered that.


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[Fruit]

Nobody has left. Pat Naish was about to commit full time, but points reduction scuppered that.


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Does that mean he won’t play any games at all?

 

[Post padding]

Have any Wang players left the club as a result of all this? Some may not fit into the team with a reduction of points now.

Six players from the GF drop a point and they had 3 or 4 spare from maxing out in that same game.

 

[Peta Deutschland]

I reckon there's a bit of us against the world at this stage, but there might be cracks by round 4, I don't think you'll see players leave straight away, isn't Moore contracted until 2024, he's their most important player

I can’t see any cracks forming. From what I can tell the boys are keen to get back out there and start playing again. Sounds worse than it is in this echo chamber of carry on that is bigfooty. Losing Joe Richards is huge for Wang. They will drop back a bit because of it. Not because the flag has been stripped off them.
Be great to see them win it with 36 points


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["The Roar Is Back"]

Are you absolutely 100% sure not one of the players knew that their match payment/benefits provided was totally above board and within the salary cap? You could be right, but this decision can help other clubs by pushing back on players who are trying to inflate their playing price by showing what can happen when they are paid overs. That’s why I love Geelong’s model of getting players to play for unders and win premierships.

Geelong have won a single premiership and they didn’t exactly hold much back in getting Dangerfield or Cameron . Maybe not a great example .

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

I can’t see any cracks forming. From what I can tell the boys are keen to get back out there and start playing again. Sounds worse than it is in this echo chamber of carry on that is bigfooty. Losing Joe Richards is huge for Wang. They will drop back a bit because of it. Not because the flag has been stripped off them.
Be great to see them win it with 36 points


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And by 28 points over the rovers would be ironic .

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

The salary cap and points hasn't been in for a couple of decades, every club in Victoria looks at this and thinks twice before they go over now, so clubs through the state will either have a gun accountant to hide it, can you imagine the effort to do that or play by the rules so it won't impact on the standard of the league

AFL Vics CCSP actually hasn’t been in for 1 decade and with the lost covid season(s) it has barely been used for half a decade .

 

[Peta Deutschland]

Does that mean he won’t play any games at all?

No games. Not at Box Hill either. Has signed at Old Ivanhoe in the VAFA.
Would’ve been fun to watch him play O&M


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[navyblueman]

I’m not sure where I stand just yet on the multiple punishments over multiple days handed out to Wang.
Caught doing the wrong thing, self reported or pre warned it doesn’t really matter.

Some suggestions of playing a year while being unable to make finals massive reductions in player points etc are, I think irresponsible. What would be the effect on the comp were that to happen in a year where we have just lost an entire club from the comp? Footy can’t afford to be weakened any further by loss of major clubs.
I think the penalty has been given and is significant enough to affect the club for this year and maybe next, but doesn’t weaken them enough to cause a collapse.

 

[bedford]

No games. Not at Box Hill either. Has signed at Old Ivanhoe in the VAFA.
Would’ve been fun to watch him play O&M


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I will see him play sadly

 

[Rumourmill18]

Rovers to welcome back the big man with a new set of strict rules to be adhered to

 

[10571z]

Heard Wang are considering a legal appeal.

Might seem like a good idea to a few but when you lie in court and withhold facts, documents etc it’s a lot more serious than at your local football board.

They’d be opening a huge can of worms and if they did cheat they’d be expecting players, officials to commit perjury.

 

[Makita Rabbit]

I can’t see any cracks forming. From what I can tell the boys are keen to get back out there and start playing again. Sounds worse than it is in this echo chamber of carry on that is bigfooty. Losing Joe Richards is huge for Wang. They will drop back a bit because of it. Not because the flag has been stripped off them.
Be great to see them win it with 36 points


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Win it with 36 points?! You are dreaming PETA pumpkin eater. Wang has no chance of winning a cup in point, just buy foreign talent in, always have always will. The club across the road is a far better example of fostering up local talent. Get off your high horse PETA, don’t know how you’re allowed to contribute your dribble to this Forum.

 

[Peta Deutschland]

Heard Wang are considering a legal appeal.

Might seem like a good idea to a few but when you lie in court and withhold facts, documents etc it’s a lot more serious than at your local football board.

They’d be opening a huge can of worms and if they did cheat they’d be expecting players, officials to commit perjury.

Haha onya champ


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[Peta Deutschland]

I will see him play sadly

Yeah I think he will be very good at local level mate


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[bedford]

The boss of O&M was just on SEN and said he can't see a court challenge as they clearly broke the rules

 

[10571z]

Haha onya champ


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? Please explain. This has come direct from someone involved at the club

 

[Rip vanwinkel]

O and M Season Launch tonight.
Wonder if there will be any Notable Absentees.

 

[bedford]

O and M Season Launch tonight.
Wonder if there will be any Notable Absentees.

Geoff ?

 

[Rip vanwinkel]

Geoff ?

I’m tipping he will be there as Guest Speaker
Save him penning a letter

 

[Peta Deutschland]

? Please explain. This has come direct from someone involved at the club

Your first line seemed normal, the following dribble must’ve come once you put your tin foil hat on. The carry on is extreme, take a breath


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[Peta Deutschland]

Win it with 36 points?! You are dreaming PETA pumpkin eater. Wang has no chance of winning a cup in point, just buy foreign talent in, always have always will. The club across the road is a far better example of fostering up local talent. Get off your high horse PETA, don’t know how you’re allowed to contribute your dribble to this Forum.

I know I’m a staunch Wang supporter, but you have got to be kidding aren’t you?
Give me your facts for the above statement?


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