Pick Your 3 preferred options of those that are likely to be available at our picks 18,19,20

[Old Spice]

Did you vote for them though Old Spice ?

I'm banned for being naughty.

 

[Old Spice]

If those names were the only ones on the board, I'd take Shaw, Lonergan and Simpson.

Could definitely go there. After reading my own review of Membrey's short-comings.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Could definitely go there. After reading my own review of Membrey's short-comings.

TBH, I'm already having buyer's remorse - I might want Clurey more than Shaw

 

[4#Didak#4]

TBH, I'm already having buyer's remorse - I might want Clurey more than Shaw

I am a bit like that with Clurey. He is argueably the best out of the lot of them, yet no love for him. I guess it comes down to that we don't really need a key defender right now.

 

[Old Spice]

TBH, I'm already having buyer's remorse - I might want Clurey more than Shaw

Is that based on something more than the highlights? Think you're a swingman fan.

I can't see anything very sexual about Clurey to be honest.

 

[gifted1]

serious
shaw didnt have a good year
played colts footy only
didnt dominate games given his size
was expected to step up into league footy and didnt
kicked a few goals and in that sense was efficent, however was a very low possession winner
doesnt look like he will go first round, guys like obrien will be selected before him imo
freo are interested but not with their first choice, that is the word around from a few people....even the inside footy draft expert said that earlier

 

[Scodog10]

Clurey
Hrovat
Simpson

Clurey is the second best KPP in the draft IMO (with Plowman, Stringer and Membrey more your third tall/ midfield types) so if we plucked him at this spot I'd be stoked because long term I see him as a Hurley style swing man, Hrovat's ball winning ability is hard to ignore despite being one dimensional and Simpson brings a touch of class to the outside (though I think Garlett would be the better option).

 

[Old Spice]

serious
shaw didnt have a good year
played colts footy only
didnt dominate games given his size
was expected to step up into league footy and didnt
kicked a few goals and in that sense was efficent, however was a very low possession winner
doesnt look like he will go first round, guys like obrien will be selected before him imo
freo are interested but not with their first choice, that is the word around from a few people....even the inside footy draft expert said that earlier

The bio also said Shaw didn't get a great deal of delivery towards himself; also suffered some confidence loss post injury. O'Brien is 5cm shorter (193cm) and has a greater disposal efficiency by foot, but I just think Shaw looks the goods when fit, has upside and ability to ruck.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Is that based on something more than the highlights? Think you're a swingman fan.

I can't see anything very sexual about Clurey to be honest.

195cm versatile KPP who led the draft combine by running a 15.1 on the beep test in 30 degree heat?

That's pretty sexual to me.

I think I'm fully turned on the issue - Clurey over Shaw.

 

[Old Spice]

Clurey
Hrovat
Simpson

Clurey is the second best KPP in the draft IMO (with Plowman, Stringer and Membrey more your third tall/ midfield types) so if we plucked him at this spot I'd be stoked because long term I see him as a Hurley style swing man, Hrovat's ball winning ability is hard to ignore despite being one dimensional and Simpson brings a touch of class to the outside (though I think Garlett would be the better option).

Is he though? All the pundits seem to think he shades out Simpson, but I imagine him being outside anyway and from my limited viewing, Simpson looks a much smarter player and deliverer of the ball to his team-mates.

 

[Old Spice]

195cm versatile KPP who led the draft combine by running a 15.1 on the beep test in 30 degree heat?

That's pretty sexual to me.

I think I'm fully turned on the issue - Clurey over Shaw.

I don't really see fitness as being a major issue for us, unless the player is Toy - who we of course know can defy medical conventions. Endurance is an important issue, but Shaw got a 14 + beep test as a big man, so he's no slouch.

If this man can ruck, take marks in a contest up forward and kick goals at ease, he's my bitchicon.

 

[gifted1]

both cluery and obrien will go before shaw
100%
lock it in

 

[gifted1]

Is he though? All the pundits seem to think he shades out Simpson, but I imagine him being outside anyway and from my limited viewing, Simpson looks a much smarter player and deliverer of the ball to his team-mates.

seems simpson will get drafted before garlett
so there you go
i doubt many would disagree that garlett has outperformed simpson...however recruiters must think simpson has more upside and garlett is riskier due to off field issues

 

[Old Spice]

both cluery and obrien will go before shaw
100%
lock it in

Why would that be?

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Is he though? All the pundits seem to think he shades out Simpson, but I imagine him being outside anyway and from my limited viewing, Simpson looks a much smarter player and deliverer of the ball to his team-mates.

He's not nearly the pure outside type that Simpson is. Has an inside game and is a centre square midfielder.

Though he has pace and skill, he's got more strings than Simpson. Clearly a better prospect on talent, but has behaviour issues that might dissuade clubs.

 

[blaze036]

Why would that be?

'coz stone called said so.

 

[Old Spice]

He's not nearly the pure outside type that Simpson is. Has an inside game and is a centre square midfielder.

Though he has pace and skill, he's got more strings than Simpson. Clearly a better prospect on talent, but has behaviour issues that might dissuade clubs.

Well, the thing is that even with Simpson being a reciever, he can work through traffic very well to my eyes. Merely from the tape, Garlett looks a lot more straight line and an inferior disposer of the ball than Simpson is.

There must be some other volume of stuff which clearly puts Garlett ahead. I can't see it.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

Well, the thing is that even with Simpson being a reciever, he can work through traffic very well to my eyes. Merely from the tape, Garlett looks a lot more straight line and an inferior disposer of the ball than Simpson is.

There must be some other volume of stuff which clearly puts Garlett ahead. I can't see it.

That's because you're watching three minute clips of each. Watching them each across full games illustrates the difference. Simpson struggles to make a sustained impact, while at times, Garlett seems like he's in everything. His disposal is very good too, not sure where that's coming from.

Garlett is in a distinctly different class as a talent than Simpson, but if his character/behavioural issues (which are a beat-up, IMO) prevent him from fulfilling his potential then it might not happen that way.

 

[Scodog10]

Is he though? All the pundits seem to think he shades out Simpson, but I imagine him being outside anyway and from my limited viewing, Simpson looks a much smarter player and deliverer of the ball to his team-mates.

IMO yes which is all I'm going off. We need one of them two, again IMO, because we were just so slow on the outside this year and we don't have much speed coming through outside Mooney. Yes Simpson looks incredible with the ball in hand, but does he work hard enough throughout games?

His defensive side seems fairly weak with an average of just over 2 tackles pg and he only averaged 14 disposals pg which at colts level is very low! At the same level Garlett ran at 4 tackles pg and 25 possessions pg and has far more runs on the board with 18 WAFL senior appearances. He would be close to a lock for top 10 if not for the off field stuff.

Yes if Simpson can become a 20+ ppg consistently player he'll be a gun, but there are seriously doubts on that. Wheras i see Garlett slipping ala Darling and clubs looking back in hindsight and wondering what they were thinking by passing on him.

 

[4#Didak#4]

Well, the thing is that even with Simpson being a reciever, he can work through traffic very well to my eyes. Merely from the tape, Garlett looks a lot more straight line and an inferior disposer of the ball than Simpson is.

There must be some other volume of stuff which clearly puts Garlett ahead. I can't see it.

I don't think there is all that much between them. Garlett though has shown & delivered more this year and has the runs on the board so to speak at a high level. He is also better overhead and can win a lot more of his own ball. Both are quick and have sublime skills - although I think Simpsons foot skills & decision making are better.

The thing that is leveling them up a bit is Garlett's off field repuatation, whether he is willing to work hard enough and willing to live interstate (a big issue, just ask Matt Rendell ). Josh Simpson on the other hand is apparently a model citizen and may be a far safer bet.

 

[Old Spice]

That's because you're watching three minute clips of each. Watching them each across full games illustrates the difference. Simpson struggles to make a sustained impact, while at times, Garlett seems like he's in everything. His disposal is very good too, not sure where that's coming from.

Garlett is in a distinctly different class as a talent than Simpson, but if his character/behavioural issues (which are a beat-up, IMO) prevent him from fulfilling his potential then it might not happen that way.

But aren't you watching the same as me?

Now I know that 3 minute clips don't tell you everything, but they do show you what a player is capable of at the top of their game. They may miss consistency, nevertheless, Simpson's ability to me looks top-shelf. Garlett's reel may also miss his best. But what I can figure from this viewing is that Simpson has exceptional abilities at his peak, you can't question that.

 

[Couch Coach]

...because we were just so slow on the outside this year and we don't have much speed coming through outside Mooney.

I agree with the rest of what you posted but you seem to have forgotten Seeds!

 

[gifted1]

Well, the thing is that even with Simpson being a reciever, he can work through traffic very well to my eyes. Merely from the tape, Garlett looks a lot more straight line and an inferior disposer of the ball than Simpson is.

There must be some other volume of stuff which clearly puts Garlett ahead. I can't see it.

garletts highlights video does him no favours
he is a class act
whoever cut his video obviously doesnt like him lol.....
as vinnie said, garlett has an inside game, he can do it all, inside/outside
he is a massive talent......on output streets ahead of simpson, that said clubs must be scared off somewhat or think simpson will improve at a greater rate than garlett
reading between the lines simpson will get drafted ahead of garlett
if you want to check his volume all you have to do is google, garlett wafl and simpson wafl
you'll see garlett mixing it up in wafl seniors where he had a great year and you'll see simpson in wafl colts averaging very low possessions.....

 

[Old Spice]

garletts highlights video does him no favours
he is a class act
whoever cut his video obviously doesnt like him lol.....
as vinnie said, garlett has an inside game, he can do it all, inside/outside
he is a massive talent......on output streets ahead of simpson, that said clubs must be scared off somewhat or think simpson will improve at a greater rate than garlett
reading between the lines simpson will get drafted ahead of garlett
if you want to check his volume all you have to do is google, garlett wafl and simpson wafl
you'll see garlett mixing it up in wafl seniors where he had a great year and you'll see simpson in wafl colts averaging very low possessions.....

Can you give the specific links for these players. I Couldn't find them.

 

[Vinnie Vegas]

But aren't you watching the same as me?

Now I know that 3 minute clips don't tell you everything, but they do show you what a player is capable of at the top of their game. They may miss consistency, nevertheless, Simpson's ability to me looks top-shelf. Garlett's reel may also miss his best. But what I can figure from this viewing is that Simpson has exceptional abilities at his peak, you can't question that.

I'm not saying Simpson isn't a real talent, but if you were judging the two players on talent alone, we'd only be talking about Simpson because Garlett would be locked in to be a Top 5 pick.

I've seen Garlett play in the championships and in a couple of WAFL games (full games), so I've seen what he can do, and he's a super impressive talent. If I was any team outside the Top 10, I'd pounce on him, regardless of off-field issues.